Talk:Mul Mantra

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[edit] Possible copyright violation

Most of the parts of this article have been pasted from SikhiWiki.org. Click on the link to follow it. Sikhiwiki.org has not mentioned its licensing on the same page and I do not have any reason to believe that it is GFDL compliant.

Note to the uploader: Please check the licensing of the article that has been copied from SikhiWiki.org and discuss it here. I am watching this page. --Andy123(talk) 04:56, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
SikhiWiki is a GFDL compliant Wiki. See disclaimer [1]. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 11:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. I have read the same. So, why dont we try to merge and transfer articles from Sikhiwiki.org to Wikipedia? --Andy123(talk) 13:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, indeed User:Harisingh has been doing just that. However, the site is a bit preachy, so it'll need npoving and some of the content is also from non-FDL sources so it needs to be double checked. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 14:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should God be "He" or "he"?

The article is inconsistent: sometimes God is "He" and sometimes "he". I just copyedited the Ōaṅkāra section, and on the basis of the introduction ("The English translation uses 'he' when referring to God. Sikhism does not recognise God as being of either sex and the original Punjabi version reflects this by being without gender.") I changed an instance of "He" to "he". I now wonder if I was right to do so. Isidore 22:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

It depends, if by 'He' you mean another word for 'God' then it should probably be capitalised. All about style I suppose. As long as it's consistent throughout the article it should be okay. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 14:32, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
OK, I've edited the article to use He, etc, throughout. Isidore 19:56, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Creation

Under the explaination for Sat Naam the words "nothing in existence" are used and the whole section seems to imply that Skihs believe that God created the universe at a fixed point in time. However, I thought the Sikh belief was that the life-time of God's creations was infinate and humanly indefinable, therefore Sikhs can not say if there was ever a nothingness, as opposed to the Hindu belief.

This is mere speculation and I can not back this up with scripture references so I think clarification is required. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.82.50.2 (talk) 05:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC).


[edit] God as male or female

I've moved the following text here; it certainly does not belong in the article:


The English translation uses 'He' when referring to God. Sikhism does not recognise God as being of either sex and the original Punjabi version reflects this by being without gender.

"The above statement regarding the English translation about God is incorrect. Sikhism does regard God as being of the male sex with the word 'purkh.' Purkh itself means male in the Gurmukhi script, and in this case, ਪੁਰਖੁ relates to that particular male personification of God. There are other instances in Gurbani where God is referred to as 'The Only Male.'"

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The first paragraph is correct. In Sikhism, God is neither male or female, the Guru proclaims this:

"(Since God) is neither male nor female; how can anyone describe Him? " (Sri Guru Granth Sahib PG 685)

The Lord is infinite, therefore cannot be described in finite words.