Talk:Muhammad al-Bukhari

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Hey his date of birth is given as 870 and his death in 810!? there's a mistake here somewhere...

You are right. The correct figures were in the article, however it seems to be the fault of browsers. When Arabic is followed by numbers, they are reversed somehow. I fixed it. --KB 18:38, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC)

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[edit] "the Prophet"

Well, I don't know about that. When people want to refer to the person who laid down the teachings of Islam, they often refer to "Prophet Muhammad". It's often done on Wikipedia too I think. That's not an endorsement of his prophethood as much as it is a convenient way to refer to a certain individual (the Muhammad who claimed to be a prophet and not the boxer Muhammad Ali). Your argument looks fine to me though so I'm leaving your edit. I'm however removing the "whom Muslims call the prophet". The link to Prophets Of Islam has nothing to do with Imam Bukhari and the wording is likely to provoke an edit war. Do you think it's okay now? --Nkv 10:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's fine. I agree it was off-topic. You've brought it back to what it was to begin with. The purpose of the link on Muhammad is precisely to inform those who are curious. People who actually don't know who Muhammad is are unlikely to seek out, or get much out of, this Bukhari article anyhow.Timothy Usher 10:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
It's perfectly within NPOV guidelines as determined by consensus. BhaiSaab 10:50, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Not my consensus. Not according to WP style manual for Islam-related articles. And not according to WP:NPOV.Timothy Usher 11:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Consensus is collective, not individual. The WP style manual doesn't say anything about it. See Timothy Usher's talk page. BhaiSaab 11:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I think referring to him as Prophet Muhammad is more accurate than just saying Muhammad. It's a widely used way of referring to him and even books that are critical or outright against him refer to him like so. This is not endorsing his prophethood but it's a method of specifying the person (like I mentioned above). However, it's not something that I think is worth arguing over. If Timothy Usher is insistent on removing the term "Prophet", I'm not opposed to it. --Nkv 13:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I found a page that has a usage of the term that me might all be happy with. Check out the first paragraph of Al-Muwatta. It refers to him as the "Islamic Prophet Muhammad" which is quite accurate. As far as Islam is concerned, he is a prophet. --Nkv 14:17, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Muhammad Bukhari

Wouldn't it be better to title this article Muhammad Bukhari?Timothy Usher 02:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Good idea! --Striver 15:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Malik ibn Anas

Islami, you are right regarding this. --Striver 21:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anon

writen by anon, moved from main page:

I do not agree and neither any practising Muslim will agree the way wikipedia presents the Muslim scolars. What is the need of mentioning "sunni sources portray" it creats an unnecessary doubts in a new reader's mind about these pious souls. I would never agree with this style of writning for any other religion's great scholars. You can always find a protestant view of a catholic scholar different from protestant and similarly in Judaism another picture can be seen about any issue between orthodox and libral jews.

--Striver 09:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shi'a

"Hakim however was accused by some of Shi'ism". What is the source for that? I have neverd herd that before.--Striver 09:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] minor spelling error

It was in Neesaaboor that he meet Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj.[1] i assume it should say: It was in Neesaaboor that he MET Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj.[1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Forid83 (talk • contribs) 14:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC).