Talk:Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf
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[edit] Removed from article
Removed from article. If someone has more exact information to add, then there is no reason not to put it back. As it is now, it adds nothing but a sense of incompleteness, I think -- Egil 05:04 Apr 11, 2003 (UTC)
===Timeline===
- ???? - ???? : Ambassador of Iraq to Sweden
- ???? - ???? : Ambassador of Iraq to Burma
- ???? - ???? : Ambassador of Iraq to UN
- ???? - 1990 : Ambassador of Iraq to Italy
- 1991 - 2001 : Foreign Minister of Iraq
- 2001 - 2003 : Information Minister of Iraq
I've removed the following, it seems un-encyclopedic, at least as long as the significant of it (if any) it is not explained:
al-Sahaf does not have a moustache, which is special for an Iraqi man.
- I don't agree. There is no POV here; the article simply reports the existence of the nickname, which is widely used and known in the English-speaking world, regardless of whether it is "racist". Also I think there is no longer any dispute that many of his public statements were untrue. -- VV 03:55, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
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- Using Google to search for "comical ali", I asked for all occurrences which were NOT .us or .com sites, and it still comes up with 14,600 hits. RickK 03:59, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Comical Ali is a redirect. I don't see your point. --Jiang
"Al-Sahaf is probably most known for his daily press briefings in Baghdad during the 2003 Iraq War, where his lies, fantasies and colourful description of his enemies reached further heights as the war progressed and earned him the nickname Comical Ali (an allusion to former Iraqi Defence Minister Ali Hassan al-Majid's alias, Chemical Ali). "
Wikipedia is not calling him that, only asserting the fact that others have done so. that is NPOV. We dont assert that people are calling Powell "Comical Powell" because this is not the fact. I don't think this came out of the US government - it was from the internet pop culture. --Jiang 04:53, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Video link
I've removed this from the page:
The link is 404. If anyone can find another copy of it or something similar, it would be good to have. --Ben Brockert 02:15, May 25, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Comical Alis Nickname in Wales
During the Iraq War, he would have been known in Wales as "The Liar of Baghdad".
Draig goch20 23:34, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Sahhaf or Sahaf?
The title says Sahhaf, but in the article it says Sahaf, which is correct?
- The "correct" version is written in Arabic, not Roman letters. There is no single way of transliterating Arabic letters to Roman ones. So either is correct. – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 18:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Baghdad Bob
OK, so the British nickname Comical Ali has been explained for US readers, but we Brits get no explanation of "Baghdad Bob". Why Bob? Why is it funny? (Don't answer here or on my talk page please, put it in the article! :)) --kingboyk 13:55, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Bob is, generally speaking, regarded as the sort of name given to an oaf, fool, or general moron. His statements earned him that status, and thus he was named Baghdad (location) Bob (mental capacitcy). -USMA2010
- I think many people named "Robert" would disagree there. The comedy comes from both the fact that Bob is a short, common American name and the alliteration that occurs. This brings it into conformity with other names like "Axis Sally" and such. —BassBone (my talk · my contributions) 09:14, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Interesting to note that whilst the British nickname is funny the American one isn't.217.43.102.22 22:37, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I F**king Love This Guy!
Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf I salute you!
Live long and prosper!
- Yeah! He definitively was a beacon of humour to all of us. But today, there's just despair in Iraq.--Keimzelle 23:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wasn't he right ?
His statement about Americans being burnt in their tanks and going to surrender is becoming more and more true. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.68.44.148 (talk) 16:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
It's true.. haahah. Who's laughing now? ;)
[edit] al-Sahhaf's academic career
I can't tell where I read of that, but I believe the following to be correct:
- that al-Sahhaf studied English literature (English fiction, to be precise)
- that he studied in England
- and that he has a brother whose is a M.D. in a Ireland or Northern Ireland hospital.
--Keimzelle 23:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "comparable to a similar watershed event that came out of the Arab-Israeli wars several decades earlier"
Which was...? Don't make allusions like that without explaining them! 81.158.1.11 02:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Check out Time with King Hussein on the cover. In there it talks about how the war had been over for a month and the Egyptian media still were reporting it as not over. I agree make it much more exact, because I believe it was only the 67' war that was to that degree. But that would be a citation to use.
To further add on the point above, the following statement is inconclusive "Thus the quick fall of Baghdad was to some a total surprise; Syrian television did not broadcast images of the events. Many in Arab countries who were interviewed later were incredulous and were forced to conclude that al-Sahhaf and their own media had been lying all along"
For those of you who have not visited the Middle East, you will be surprised to find the number of western news channels that are aired here. BBC, CNN, CNBC are all accessible for free by anyone who has a satellite dish and a receiver. The view of Al-Sahaf for someone living in the Middle East was probably the most comical; watch Iraqi TV and you will see Al-Sahaf taking in absolute defiance, one click of the remote button, and we saw the real picture of American forces bulldozing there way into Iraq. Having said, that there might have been a minority that were naive enough to actually buy into Al-Sahaf's claims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irhabee (talk • contribs) 11:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nicknames
Is there any reason why 'Baghdad Luxury' is given in the introductory parapgraph, whlie 'Baghdad Bob' and 'Comical Ali' are mentioned later on in the text? Shouldn't they all be in the same place? And where did the 'Baghdad Luxury' nickname come from and what does it refer to? 86.153.216.204 22:31, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
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