Talk:Muammar al-Gaddafi

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Contents 1 Want to edit page, but can't- length problem? 2 International Perception 3 Help? 4 Someone has vandalized the page 5 Amazonian Guard 6 GA relisting 7 القذافي 8 Status as Anti-Christ 9 Personal Life

[edit] Want to edit page, but can't- length problem?

Hi, I was going to edit the article and add a new section, but after I added it, the quotations section got subsumed into my section and cut off a few quotes. Everything was still in the code, but the preview showed missing things. In lieu of this working I will not edit the page, but this is what I was going to add in- I don't know all that much about wikiediting, but if someone can figure it out, thanks. Also, feel free to give feedback on the section I want to post. Controversial, yes, but I feel it is absolutely necessary for anyone who is trying to understand Colonel Gaddafi and the Western perspective.

Can't figure out how to post this section without screwing up the setup of the article. Help appreciated. Thanks, Useless-Factoids 22:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)Useless-Factoids

In July 1982, I have been working in the house of Gaddafi, which lays next to the hospital, at the northeast side of the military camp in Tripoli. It was neccesary to get his personal meaning in connection with colours and wallpapers in the groundfloor rooms, which he gave to me with a big smile. I am very disappointed about the US attack on Gaddafis person. --62.65.192.84 (talk) 15:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] International Perception

Gaddafi has had a colorful history with world since taking power. Gaddafi is strangely situated in international politics, as he is not a close ally of Western governments^[1] yet he is not trusted by the Arab world either,^[2] especially evident in his attempts to unite Libya with Egypt^[3] This situation makes Libya strangely alone in international politics, though Gaddafi announced plans in the late 1990s to unite Africa.^[4] Gaddafi personally is considered by the West to be strange and unique, a maverick.^[5] Many reporters have called Gaddafi flamboyant and much press has been devoted to what some think are outrageous clothes^[6], going even as far as to call them costumes.^[7] Gaddafi is seen as unpredictable, with Ronald Reagan dubbing him "the mad dog of the Middle East". Critics will disparage his claims of living a simple life, pointing to his Amazonian guard and clothes as evidence of a less than simple lifestyle. Nevertheless, many believe Gaddafi to be sincere in his leadership and evidence his rapprochement with the United States as evidence.^[8]

Can't figure out how to post it without screwing up the setup of the article. Help appreciated. Thanks,Useless-Factoids 22:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Isn't there a lot of unsubstantiated hearsay in this article?!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgm8530 (talk • contribs) 01:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help?

I'm a wikidiot. I don't understand how to navigate the talk page w/the current set up- the last thing I see on the discussion page is my own entry; but the history says that phase4 responded to my entry. I can see something of it in the history tab, but I'm not sure if it is all of it. If someone could tell me how to easily see the discussion in a normal way, like it is usually on the talk page, would be much appreciated. -Useless-Factoids

Ok, that fixes it, I think. The last <ref></ref> part of your paragraph was ill formed (it was missing the backslash). I personally don't have any big problem with that paragraph, but I think that the gist of it is already in the article, or coule be put in with more timeless references than BBC News articles. Smmurphy^(Talk) 17:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Ignorance continues presumably to be bliss!Phase4 20:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Someone has vandalized the page

Above the photograph of al-Gaddafi someone has written "Yo Mama"... I don't know how to remove it, but can someone do so? Thanks [User:bassocontinuo|bassocontinuo]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bassocontinuo (talk • contribs) 22:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Amazonian Guard

The part about Ghaddafi's female guard should be reworded. They didn't go only to Brusels in 2004, they accompanied him everywhere. E.g. in memoirs of Raif Dizdarević (then minister of foreign affairs of Yugoslavia) he mentions the guard when in 1986 Ghaddafi attended 8th summit of the Non-Aligned Movement in Harare.

Neither the troubles with numerous guards are limited to 2006 Nigeria. Dizdarević mentions the same problems in Harare, including fistfights between Ghaddafi's guards and the local guards.

An aside: a honorary degree from a Belgrade university is hardly something unique. Honorary titles for the heads of state are usually dozen on a dime. Libya was a close ally of Yugoslavia in the non-aligned movement so such pomposities could be rather expected. Pavel Vozenilek 13:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The redirect from Amazonian Guard contains revisions in its history that contain wordage that doesn't stand on the current page, the following content included:

"The women are supposedly all virgins and must remain so, although rumors exist of their personal sexual services to the leader himself."

Dunno if that is accurate of course. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 16:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

P.S. incoming redirects are usually not linked in to the same article, but emphasized bold.

[edit] GA relisting

When I listed the Gaddafi article with a GA tag earlier, I hadn't realised that it had at least four unsourced statements. It has since been delisted, but I'd be grateful if other editors could provide the necessary citations, so that the article can be relisted as a "good article".Phase4 22:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Please note, however, that in order for an article to be listed as a Good article, it must first be nominated at WP:GAN and reviewed by an uninvolved editor. If it meets all the criteria, then it will be listed as a Good article. Sorry for any confusion. Lara❤Love 03:51, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] القذافي

Is he related to Wanis al-Qaddafi? Even though their family names are transliterated differently here at Wikipedia, they are actually the same. Helvetica 06:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Status as Anti-Christ

According to Naming the Antichrist: The History of an American Obsession (Robert C. Fuller, Oxford University Press, 1995, page 160) "In 1982, Southwest Radio Church's Gospel Truth settled on Libyan leader Mu'ammar Gadhafi, stating that Gadhafi's 'messianic credentials qualify him in many respects as a candidate for Anitchrist.'" Does anyone know what the Church's current position on this is? 85.25.147.96 07:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I have to disagree, this is totally irrelevant, I am sure many people have said George Bush or many other world leaders are also the 'anti-Christ', yet I don't see that kind of silly conspiracy theory in their articles in such prominence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.225.104 (talk) 03:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal Life

The paragraph opens with the statement that he has forty children and seventy are sons. Then states he has one daughter. The math ain't workin'. --Eddylyons (talk) 19:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Fromm the article:

"Gaddafi is pretend to be the son of Albert Preziosi, a French captain born in Corsica. Albert Preziosi plane crashed in Corsica in 1942 and he was rescued by a libyan peasant family."

What does "pretend" mean in this instance. Was this his dad or not? Somebody should clarify. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 15:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)