User talk:MrWhipple

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[edit] Joseph Smith, Jr.

HI!! Welcome to Wikipedia. I've noticed your work on the LDS pages, particularly JSmith, Jr. and have been meaning to welcome you to the LDS effort. Now I have an excuse. Although NPOV is always difficult on religion pages, the group here usually manages to come up with something that works. Sometimes it takes a little patience............ I changed your heading to something quite neutral "Works accepted as LDS Scriptures" for now. That doesn't mean the discussion about a more relevant heading should not continue. Perhaps there is something out there that would be a perfect compromise. Comments welcome. WBardwin 28 June 2005 23:53 (UTC)

[edit] Great Work

I really appreciate your work on Wiki; it is great. Your research adds a significant strength to your edits. We will miss you during your vacation on JS & Prophecy. Enjoy yourself and I look forward to your future edits. Storm Rider

[edit] Block

I have blocked you for a day for violation of the three-revert rule on Joseph Smith as a Prophet on June 29. I stopped counting at seven reverts.

In the future, I recommend that you consider this an electric fence and do not cross it. It disrupts wikipedia and solves nothing. Take differences to the talk page.

I also have blocked User:Gabrielsimon for the same thing. Cburnett June 30, 2005 20:14 (UTC)

[edit] Orange County, California

Since I've seen you add a few items to the Orange County, California article, I'd like to bring the Southern California WikiProject to your attention. Please take a look at the project's page and see if there is anything that interests you.

Also, since you are interested in LDS articles, I know that there is am LDS connection to San Pedro, California (from around the same time as the start of Bakersfield, California colony I think, but I haven't had the time to dig up any useful info yet. Would that be something you would be interested in? BlankVerse ∅ 12:51, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nauvoo Legion

Whipple, do you have any references for the following statements:

"On 26 June 1844, Smith sent message to Major-General Johnathan Dunham of the Nauvoo Legion that he should lead the militia to the jail in order to protect and accompany Smith and his associates back to Nauvoo. Dunham decided to ignore Smith's order, fearing such an action would instigate a major conflict that could erupt into civil war. Dunham informed no one of Smith's order or of his decision to disregard it."

I have not been successful in my reserach. It is not a commonly known fact and feel that it should be referenced. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Storm Rider 16:26, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

My understanding is this comes from Mike Quinn's research, but that others have claimed he's misreading his sources. The Legion had surrendered state arms previous to Joseph going to Carthage, so all they would be left with was their own rifles. It's pretty clear that the members were told to stay home in the wake of the murder, but I don't know if I would go so far as to say that Dunham disobeyed orders. He continued to serve in positions of responsibility under Brigham Young, so I can't imagine that he was seen as being responsible for not protecting the Prophet. --MrWhipple 22:25, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

That makes sense to me. I tried to find out additional information on Dunham, but am doing well in my reserach. It would seem doubtful that Dunham disobeyed an order from Joseph that resulted in his death and Brigham then retain and use him in positions of authority.

I can have a pretty sensitive skin when it comes to tone and this paragraph seems more a subtle attempt disparage character of both Joseph and the Saints. Regardless, I think I will delete the language and ask for references. It does not belong with out some type of support. Thanks for your thoughts and I apprecaite your work on the Death of Joseph article. Storm Rider 22:38, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Orson Scott Card and Sheri Dew as controversial Mormons

Please see my comments either on my talk page or at Talk:Controversies regarding The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Thoughts? -Visorstuff 17:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Help at Early life of Joseph Smith, Jr.

Early life of Joseph Smith, Jr. will be featured on the Main Page on the 23rd. Vandalism will probably be frequent that day. Could you help in monitoring the page? The 23rd starts at 7 pm ET on Dec 22nd, since wikipedia goes by UTC. Thx in advance. Trödel•talk 02:06, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject LDS

Hello! I noticed you were on the list of members in the LDS WikiProject, and I was wondering if you were still interested in helping out there. You see, over the past few months, it appears that it has slowly drifted into inactivity. But you CAN help. Please consider doing both of the following:

  1. Take ONE thing form the To-Do list and do it. Once you're done with it, remove it from the list, and from the<>{{Template:LDSprojectbox}}<>, so we know its done. Keep the page on your watchlist. We have a backlog going for more than half a year. Please help to work on it, and remove it.
  2. Vote on the LDSCOTF, and work on it!
  3. Tell your friends (esp. LDS friends, & esp. Wikipedian friends) about this WikiProject, and enocourage them to join (and be active).

Remember: your involvement in this WikiProject is just that - involvement! Please help us out.

(Note: I'm sending this out to everyone who's name was on the membership list, so I will NOT be watching this page for a response. If you want to contact me, do it on MY talk page, please.)

Thanks for all that you do -Trevdna 15:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:JosephHyrumEmmaSmithGravesite.jpeg

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Just to let you know, that bot removed your images from the Death of Joseph Smith, Jr article. I thought that they were great images. Can't you upload them again and put the fair use disclaimer there so that they can be used in the article? Bhludzin 16:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joseph Smith, Jr.

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[edit] First Vision

I appreciate the efforts of Visorstuff to resolve the situation at First Vision. I now understand that he was hampered by his past involvement in this article and with John Foxe. No one is editing the article right now, but I believe that John Foxe's comments on the talk page demonstrate that he either cannot understand or refuses to comply with the WP:NPOV policy. I'm trying to gain a consensus on his inappropriate behavior, and I invite you, as a past contributor to this article, to add your comments to this discussion. If you think that my behavior also warrants criticism, I invite that as well. I will be posting this invitation on several other user talk pages, but with your past history on this article you might be aware of other editors who have walked away. Please feel free to let them know what is going on and invite their input at Talk:First_Vision#Time_for_action. 74s181 13:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Yahoo_mail_inbox.png

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[edit] A.D. placement

From the Wikipedia "Manual of Style":

  • Years
      • Either CE and BCE or AD and BC can be used—spaced, undotted (without periods) and upper-case. Choose either the BC-AD or the BCE-CE system, but not both in the same article. AD appears before or after a year (AD 1066, 1066 AD); the other abbreviations appear after (1066 CE, 3700 BCE, 3700 BC). The absence of such an abbreviation indicates the default, CE-AD. It is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change; the Manual of Style favors neither system over the other.

--Editor2020 (talk) 19:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)