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[edit] BookwormUK

Thanks for the heads up. I'll be monitoring her closely now. If someone openly espouses bigoted opinions (e.g. that Islam is "the world's most hated religion" and Muslims are "brainwashed"), I don't think they have long for wikipedia anyway. Hopefully. Deuterium 11:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Black Stone

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[edit] God vs Allah

Because of your previous activity with regard to your topic, I thought I'd let you know that there is a poll going on at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Islam-related articles)/God vs Allah. It'd be great if you could vote. Thanks! Starwarp2k2 04:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I made the same U-Turn, hehe. Starwarp2k2 12:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hadith

Im just happy to see people joining the projects :) --Striver 10:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suhuf-i-Ibrahim article edit

Hi, MPatel/MathPhys. Can you please give reasons / what bases you use to justify not including the Latter Day Saints issue [1]? Moreover, do you want to continue this cabal case since there is nobody to take up the other side of the case? Jsw663 18:23, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for recategorising Maulana, Andhe ki laathi. I was struggling to think where it should go. Also, there is still some religious terminology that I didn't know so couldn't link to or explain in English. I was trying to help clear the wikification backlog and came up against my ignorance of Islam. Itsmejudith 22:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Metre Poetry

Hi there, I wish I had seen your comment earlier. I also wanted to know the difference when I edited that part about the etymology of "Qur'an". I meant to say the meter in poetry. In Arabic it is called "wazn" and the literal translation of "wazn" is "weight".

For example in arabic you would say that "place" and "grace" have the same "wazn" because they have the same # of letters and also sound similar. Having known that, do you think it should be Meter(music) or meter(poetry) Thank you for your input.Marwan123 05:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I also think it is Meter(poetry). All I wanted to prove by adding that part about the meter of the word "Quran" is to show that this word is actually derived from an Arabic root rather than being derived from a syriac origin. This is very clear to me as an Arabic speaker. Unfortunately some people, who are obviously not linguists, still think that the part about Quran being syriac in origin should remain. This theory is more than 100 years old and has almost no supporters among real linguists yet its taking half of the etymology section. Marwan123 20:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Eotvos effect

I copy and paste from User Talk:Cleonis :

[...] By the way, I didn't realise that there was an article on the Eötvös effect - thanks! MP (talk) 12:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Just to be sure: are you referring to the Eötvös effect or the 'Eötvös experiment'?
The article that I wrote about the Eötvös effect is unrelated to GTR, in the sense that the Eötvös effect is general physics, it applies equally in newtonian dynamics and GTR; no distinction. The Eötvös experiement of course tested the equivalence of inertial and gravitational mass.

What is interesting about the Eötvös effect is that it is closely related to the Coriolis effect as taken into account in meteorology. On my own website the Eötvös effect article is the opening article of an assembly of four articles. 1) the Eötvös effect 2) rotational-vibrational coupling 3) Inertial oscillations (the inertial oscillations that are taken into account in oceanography and meteorology) 4) Comparison of inertial oscillations and ballistics. --Cleonis | Talk 16:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Hello. Could you please follow the procedure described at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list pages for deletion when nominating a page for deletion? The article won't be deleted otherwise, unless a poor soul fixes it up, like I did for Indian relativity. Cheers, Jitse Niesen (talk) 02:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Indian relativity

M - Thank for the head's-up on that article. In response, I have put Aryabhata's relativity principle up for deletion also. The creator of that article has failed to make any case for me that the article should exist, and the resposne to the AfD of Indian relativity has given me hope that I get this one removed also. --EMS | Talk 15:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CH

M -

Chris Hillman has been trying to contact you. I tried forwarding some e-mail from him to you. Have you received it? All that I can tell you is that Chris wants to talk to you. --EMS | Talk 06:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Types of hajj

Dear MP, the problem with the section that I deleted was that it was so terse, and presumed such an acquaintance with Arabic, the various madhabs, etc., that I found it impenetrable. If I found it hard going (and I'm somewhere more informed about Islam than the usual encyclopedia user, thought I'm certainly no scholar) I don't think a regular user could make head or tail of it. If you want to restore that information, you're going to have to unpack it. Similarly the hajj undertaken for others. That deserves a section, and perhaps some examples. If you just say that it exists, blam, then that info is going to float over readers' heads.

I recall several accounts of vicarious hajj in accounts of 18th and 19th century Indian life. The wealthy, aged, and feeble would do the hajj this way, as it was the only way that they could. But is it so common now? I should think that with jet travel, vicarious hajj would have disappeared. If there are any stats available on the numbers of such pilgrims each year, that would certainly help. Zora 06:12, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Islamic socialism

You have edited the article Islamic socialism. This article is currently being considered for deletion under the wp:afd process. You may contribute to this discussion by commenting here. Thank you. Edivorce 01:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Photons from special relativity?

You wrote that "In special relativity, it is possible derive E=hf by assuming that light has a certain frequency and energy (or momentum if you want to think in those terms). Once the four-momentum for light is defined (without necessarily referring to any de Broglie type of hypothesis), it is straightforward to deduce the above energy-frequency relation." But I don't see how special relativity gives you a relationship between the energy and frequency of light. In classical electromagnetism, the energy density of an electromagnetic field (light) depends on the amplitude and frequency. Nothing compels you to introduce photons with E=hf. (Let's continue the discussion on this page, please) Dark Formal 18:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Freemasonry

I read the source again, and it uses the word "felony". However, if you can find me the original law, a translation thereof, and a classification of levels of crimes, I'd be happy to change it to something more accurate. Furthermore, it's "too American" simply because other countries call them "indictable offenses" (not "serious crimes"), and probably because the article is from an American paper. In any case, as per your "important issues" section of your user page, hopefully you found the article useful and informative. MSJapan 21:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contribs

Why isnt your contribs link enabled? Sup with that? --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 17:38, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. Actually, it is enabled. I have no problems viewing my contributions. Try again later. MP (talk) 22:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
I dont see any link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mpatel -- you should remove this redirect to the MathPhys user. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 23:16, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

This kind of redirect is aggravating and inappropriate.Proabivouac 06:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

It would be helpful and courteous if you said why you find it "aggravating and inappropriate". MP might change it and resolve whatever problem you're having with the redirect if you give some reasons. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 08:31, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
MPatel, thanks for removing the redirect. Can you also fix your signature so it goes to Mpatel instead of MathPhys? The reason is that when people click on your signature, they should arrive to the username you're using so they can see your contribs, your actual user page and talk page. This is the signature code you can use:
[[User:Mpatel|MP]] [[User_talk:Mpatel | (talk)]]
thanks, --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 12:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
No problems - done. MP (talk•contribs) 14:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, works great now. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 02:40, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General Relativity (book)

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[edit] Cat Islam

The Islam cat is reserved for top level articles only. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 13:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

If you see Category:Islam, it says there that it must be pruned regularly. There's lots of Islamic stuff, so we cant put all the articles in that cat, only the most top level articles like Muhammad. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 15:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
See here which mentions {{catdiffuse}}, the template that Category:Islam uses. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 15:49, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Islam cat looks okay to me now. If you think there's a main top level article that should be added, go ahead. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 15:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
you can also create new sub-categories if you think there can be any where some other articles can be grouped too. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 15:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of categories:(Country) converts to Islam

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[edit] Lesser Inner Greater Outer

You're a general relativity custodian at wikipedia, right? When you copyedit, rather than revert, vandalisms like this one, it's almost like a stamp of approval. Tsk tsk. -lethe talk + 05:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Do high G forces created by acceleration also slow time in the same manner as large planets?

Magruderb 15:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Relativity

You asked me to take part in this project. I believe, a lot of confusion comes from not properly described experiments and terms. But if I try to show, that a clock could be a counter to count the oscillations of electromagnetic wave, caught in an resonator exitated by emissions of the most simple atom, I am stopped with the allegation of OR. If such basic message is OR, I can't contribute anything. Talk:Twin_paradox#no_original_research The term rod has the following translations to german:

       rod             das (auch: der) Pleuel

rod [tech.] der Biegedorn rod [tech.] die Bohrstange rod [tech.] der Brennstab [Kerntechnik] rod [tech.] der Dosierstab rod der Eisenstab rod die Fuchtel rod [tech.] das Gestänge rod [tech.] der Greiferbalken rod [tech.] die Kurbelstange rod [engin.] der Linienträger rod der Mast rod [tech.] der Rundstab rod [tech.] die Rundstange rod die Rute rod [sl.] das Schießeisen [sl.] rod der Stab rod [engin.] der Stab rod [anat.] das Stäbchen rod [anat.] die Stäbchenzelle wiss.:Cellula optica bacilliformis i rod [tech.] die Stange rod [tech.] die Steckachse rod [textil.] der Stoßarm - Ladtrieb rod [tech.] die Strebe rod die Zuchtrute

But some unknown prohibits me to show, that a rod stands for a well defined materialistic object of certain length, what most simple is a lattice of atoms, which gives us the possibility to link geometric dimension to wavelength of radiation on one hand and to define the distance of two mirrors, that form such a apparatus, working as said resonator. Therefore, I'm not, no longer and not again interested in such work. If I'm alone! ;-] ErNa (talk) 07:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC) No answer? ErNa (talk) 09:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ununoctium FAC

I noticed you have taken a look at the article several days ago. You are welcome to leave some thoughts/comments on the article at the FA candidate page. Thanks! Nergaal (talk) 21:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Isometries in physics

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[edit] Please help us with Ali article

Hi, I saw you have done good efforts to improve Qur'an. Can you do similar work for Ali, which is nominated as a GA article. Thanks.--Seyyed(t-c) 12:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Do you want the tag remain on the article anymore.--Seyyed(t-c) 02:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your work

The Working Man's Barnstar
I hereby award this barnstar to Mpatel for his tireless efforts to improve Islam related articles such as Ali. Thank you for your diligence! Peter Deer (talk) 20:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't be too unexpected, I have Ali on my watchlist, so I've seen all your work on it, as well as your work on Qur'an. You've been doing necessary work and it's quite appreciated. Peter Deer (talk) 21:29, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it's good idea to put a comment on this page under my request and declare you've done it.--Seyyed(t-c) 03:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Isometries in physics

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[edit] Muhammad / The Prophet

Hi, I think in some cases which we want to emphasize on the religious aspect of Muhammad we can use "The Prophet". You see the meaning of the superiority of the Prophet's progeny over the rest of the ummah and the superiority of Muhammad's progeny over the rest of the ummah are completely different. Of course it's against WP:MOSISLAM but I put my idea there. Please write your idea here--Seyyed(t-c) 11:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Distortion of Succession to Muhammad

When I separated Shia-Sunni views and leading paragraph I had a reason. In brief the first paragraph shows scholars viewpoints about the historic fact and the last one shows Muslim beliefs. For more explanation please read here. --Seyyed(t-c) 11:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Please forgive me but I revert your edition in this section.--Seyyed(t-c) 11:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
That section has completely two different part. I clarify them by adding a sub section.--Seyyed(t-c) 12:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Why did you revert without any discussion. This is an important issue and your edit distorted it. Even you didn't pay attention to sources.:-((--Seyyed(t-c) 13:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The explanation is at Ali talk. MP (talk•contribs) 13:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me, I'm not in good mood today. I'll come back later. I hope you can improve the article. And please revert the first two paragraphs which are not written on the basis of the Shia and Sunni views.--Seyyed(t-c) 13:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I put a comment on the talk page to discuss about succession. I hope my anxious manner wouldn't bother you. God bless you.--Seyyed(t-c) 16:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Please refer to the talk page before reverting my edition. Pardon me, I don't want to accuse you, but your edition is a kind of censorship. --Seyyed(t-c) 15:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My proposal

Hi Mpatel,

Could you please take a look at my proposal here [2]. Thanks in advance, Cheers, --Be happy!! (talk) 09:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New change in WP:MOSISLAM

Salam Alaykum

Two weeks ago I put a comment in the talk page of MOSISLAM and proposed using "The Prophet" in especial cases and about one weeks ago I changed WP:MOSISLAM [3]. Nobody protest or change my proposal. Thus I want to insert it in the related articles.--Seyyed(t-c) 23:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Einstein Field Equations vandalism

The article begins with inserted text 'black holes are nothingness. Black holes are big'. The odd thing is that it does not appear on the edit page. I looked at the HTML source but that gave no insight into where the text is coming from (at the style sheet level, perhaps?).

Just wanted to mention it to someone working with the project. Cyclone77 (talk) 16:17, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Planck from special relativity

Hi mpatel,

your user page says "Planck's relation between the energy and frequency of a photon can be derived using special relativity" -- but the article on four-vectors that this links to doesn't seem to mention Planck's constant. I don't see how anything involving Planck's constant could be derived from special relativity alone -- and as someone remarked above, Maxwell's electrodynamics are invariant under Lorentz transforms and thus compatible with special relativity. Could you explain what you mean?

Thanks,

Joriki (talk) 05:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] At-Tawba 29, Imran (father of Maryam) and Islamic view of Ishmael

Greetings. The reason I placed those items in the general Islam category is because I'm organizing hundreds of WP:UNCAT articles per day. If I attempt to exactly categorize each article, I'll only be able to rescue a fraction of those articles. Further, since there are many topics I'm not well-versed in, if I detail-cat there's a danger that I'll miscategorize. Please don't think of this as "dumping" articles into your section, I'm instead trying to save articles that are floating around lost, and by putting them in the general category I'm letting the people who know that field best decide where to file (or whether to delete) them. Thanks! MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings!

Hi, M,

Haven't heard from you in some time--- drop me a line when you get a chance, I'd like to catch up!

Chris

[edit] WikiProjectIslam Collaboration

Salam bro,

Don't you want to participate in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Islam#Collaboration. Please participate in collaborative improvement of Sources of Islamic law, which is nominated as GA.