User talk:Moumine

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[edit] FNORD

Hi! This is Icarus!, being non-Wiki (I'm not logged in...), saying thanx for the work on the Discordianism page! Keep it up!24.176.20.60 16:55, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image license

Hi! Thanks for uploading Image:Drapaupriere.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}}

GFDL Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. Subject to disclaimers.

if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}}#REDIRECTTemplate:Non-free restricted use
This page is a soft redirect.if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you.

If you uploaded other images, pleas clarify copyright for them as well, otherwise the images will eventually be deleted.

Thanks, Denni☯ 01:39, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)


[edit] Geology of the Himalaya

Hello,

I am the one who created the Wikipage on "Geology of the Himalaya" but also the copyright holder of the website [http://comp1.geol.unibas.ch/zanskar] and the PhD thesis from which it is derived: "Tectonic and Metamorphic Evolution of the Central Himalayan Domain in Southeast Zanskar (Kashmir, India)".

Please check my credentials as copyright holder by using the e-mail adress that you will find as a contact address under: [http://comp1.geol.unibas.ch/] or use the same e-mail that you will find on: [http://pages.unibas.ch/earth/tecto/Members/Dezes.htm]

I also thought that the copyright notice that I have put on [http://comp1.geol.unibas.ch/zanskar] would implicitly allow this kind of use (since reference was clearly made on the wikipedia page to the Zanskar page) but of course, I am not a lawyer.

With best regards

I'll take your word that you are the copyright holder. See also Talk:Geology of the Himalaya. Thue | talk 10:42, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zanskar

dear moumine. this is karsha here. you welcomed me to wikipedia. i am in fact an anthropologist who has worked in zangskar for 18 years now. do i know you? anyhow, i will be posting on zangskar occasionally as i am the author of an award winning book about zangskar. Karsha 17:01, 10 May 2007 (UTC)karsha.

I'm not defacing the Zanskar page. However, I apologise if it causes displeasure upon you, but your English grammar is really, really bad, and cleanup is critically needed. Furthermore, everybody has the right to edit wikipedia as long as it is not vandalism. However, how can you prove to me that

http://comp1.geol.unibas.ch/zanskar

According to the Zanskar talk page, you only specified that the images are yourd, but not the content. I am also unable to reach the website comp1.geol.unibas.ch/zanskar homepage that you have specified, as it has an error check page by stating Document not found and I afraid that you may have to provide more information about the ownership of the images to me if you could so that I can confirm that you are the photographer. (Furthermore, I feel that color images should be put up rather than black & white images. Do you have them? I feel that the look of the Zanskar page would be much nicer if they are colored.)

I also feel that my version serves as a better basis for the page. However, I fully admit that it needs expansion; and if you could use your content to add information is better.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that does not widely accept borrowrd content, as it is an encyclopedia, unless you are really the author of the website where you borrow the content.

Ah yes, about the etymology, I don't like it because your grammar really terrible. Just compare yourself with how the content of Sikkim is written instead.

Tan, 13:36, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Fair enough, we shall take a vote on whose version should we based on and continue edit from there. On the contary, I do agree with the Etymology section and I have see you have put in some efforts to improve article quality, but it is still of unacceptable standard, as the orientation format is still very poor, in comparison to mine. I shall hint out to where your mistakes are:

  • You should not start out with a section, but in the form of a general comment like mine.
  • Your grammar still needs very much improvement.
  • A lot of irrelavant facts in your content, and content in article should be cut short, sweet and simle like those of Sikkim.
  • If the information are outdated and you know it, you should update it it and not persistantly providing the old information (eg: the population of Zanskar.
  • Tourism of Zanskar should be also highlighted, like Sikkim.

Also, for miscellanous uses, I would like to call you a professor for you are really familiar about Zanskar. I agree to have the images up there, but do you swear that they are really taken by you? I would be very happy to have it up there if its really taken by you.

Also, concerning the Zanskar article, we shall ask the wikipedians to take a vote on whose content should act as a basis: See more at Zanskar. ( I hope you can accept it for the time being and apologise for any displeasure and inconvinence caused. )

Ah yes, I would also like to hint out that be it the majorty votes come to me or you, I would like to have the following suggestions:

  • Placing up the Tourism section,
  • Placing up the etymology section
  • Placing up the external links section


If there are no votes by 7 days, this should be put Wikipedia:Resolving disputes as I understand Zanskar is a rather unpopular topic, and this will help to attract polls.

Once again, I seek future coporation to work with you on the Zanskar article.

Mr Tan 1943, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I hope that you'll return to editing the [[Zanskar] article; I shall be around to make sure that Mr Tan stays withing the limits of Wikipedia editing, so that it should be possible for you to collaborate with him. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:35, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)


I want you to hold a discussion on May 10 or 11 about Zanskar. Stay online in wikipedia between those days. Thanks.

Tan 23:32, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zanskar

What do you mean by the syntax given the Nichalp? Please elaborate. From the strange altitude of you and Mel, I see that you look like trying to reject every contribution that I make, good or bad.

What is Mel trying to mean by this? withing the limits of Wikipedia editing, so that it should be possible for you to collaborate with him.

Mr Tan 12:55, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Very good. You have finally replaced the black and white pictures with the colored ones. However, the content and sentences still needs cleanup.

Mr Tan 01:34, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I would apologise if I'm rude, but I have no intention to be agressive. Due to my exams, I would like to hold back the discussion and major edits, which I would be doing at that time. Anyway, I gave you this meessage partly because you were not always online in the past.

Anyway, your stuling is poor, but not the grammar. Thus, the {gcheck} template have to be put up, as this also pertains to the styling of the article. From there, I will have to either reshift, (maybe delete a few facts) to make it more tidy. Honestly, your styling and sentence construction is very poor.

Mr Tan 09:22, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Troublesome You-Know-Who

Dear Moumine, thanks for the compliments. Indeed, it is quite unbearable to correct something as garbled as that, but luckily, patience is on my side. Time, unfortunately not. It's very easy to correct bad English, but if it comes from a person who thinks he has good knowledge of the language but actually does not, that's quite another matter. I'll do my best to fix up whatever I can. : ) You're from France? Which part? JMBell° 23:25, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I agree with you there. There are sooooo many errors. I don't know how one can make so many errors, especially if one claims to have good English. No offence meant. : ) Anyway, I've tried another tactic with You-Know-Who (see his talk page). I have a mind to put his "best" edits on BJAODN, but I don't know if that'd be mean... So you're from Switzerland? I see.... You sell Toblerone? :) You're lucky, you Swiss get to preserve your independence. Where exactly are you from? JMBell° 11:52, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zanskar

I concerned about your article. Honestly, your styling looks more like a research paper than an encyclopedia article, as the way you write is monotomous, rather than a piece of interesting and exciting work. Please restyle it, something like Lahul and Spiti. If you want to know about the standard of my English, go and see how the Liancourt Rocks is written.

I also appeal ypu not to delete the Kinner Kailash redirect. This is a common colloquial name.

Concerning about Kinnaur and Zanskar, I will correct everything according to your requests while I will point your mistakes in Zanskar. I am not Chan Han Xiang, my name is Randall Chinhong Tan, and Hans Tan is my nickname. Go ahead and edit Kinnaur, but don't make a mess on the styling of the article like Zanskar.

I would like to hint your major mistake. You have a habit to use and, rather than breaking up the sentence with a comma in the Keylong article. Please use commas and try not to use brackets, or ; as much as possible, as it makes the article boring. You see how Enid Blyton writes her books.

Tan 15:01, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

I have now opened Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mr Tan, as I could see no other way forward. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:50, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Commas

Wikipedia style (as well as most U.S. guides, and the U.K. "Oxford style") uses what's known as the "serial comma". This is because, although its use can (under very unusual conditions) lead to ambiguity, its absence often does. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:12, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zanskar

Please respect my decision for my edit. I do not intend to criticise you for your edits, but I only want to cleanup the article format into a way that resembles more like other articles. I will revert it to the last revision, but more edits will be done by me. Please tolerate for the time being as I need to regenerate myself up before I do any major copy-editing.

By the way, I acknowledge that my spelling may have some errors, (usually when I'm tired) just as most people have.

Yours, sincerely

Tan 20:27, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kinnaur

Sorry — it's a problem with the admin's "rollback" function. It sometimes doesn't rollback to where I want it to. I meant to go back to my last version; instead it rolled back to the previous edit. I'll change it. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:15, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi Moumine, nice to know our old friend's back, eh? Good luck with the diplomatic stuff - it's hard to reason with this fella. Happy spring cleaning! And good luck - we'll need it, I'm sure. JMBell° 16:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Moumine, although the grammar of the Zanskar article has witnessed a considerable improvement, I would like to indulge on a one-to-one discussion (using Mel Etitis and JMBell as witnesses, or judges) on the content of how Zanskar is written, preferably on 30 May 2005.

Anyway, I will attend to your question that you have posted on my talk page together with the proposed discussion. Any objections? (I hope not.)

Tan 20:57, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zanskar

If you are interested, you may look up [1]. (Sorry for the delay, for my computer was down)

Also, I hope that you will not object to the removal of the {dubious} tag on Lahul and Spiti. I don't see any disputes on the history section for a very long time.

Tan 15:34, 1 June 2005 (UTC)

[edit] featured picture
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Prayer_flag_col.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. howcheng {chat} 17:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

This is to let you know the Featured Picture you uploaded and/or nominated Image:Prayer_flag_col.jpg is scheduled to be Picture of the day on December 9, 2006, when it will be featured on the Main Page. Congratulations! howcheng {chat} 17:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User categorisation

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Switzerland page as living in or being associated with Switzerland. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Switzerland for instructions. --Army1987 14:36, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Geology of the Himalaya - Images

Hi, could you tag the copyright status of the images from Geology of the Himalaya. It looks like this page may be a good candidate for a featured article and having the images tagged would be a prerequisit. Cheers, Andreww 06:00, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the response. As you say, there is not a "free" licence that has the terms that you want. If I understand correctly you want too keep copyright, but let anybody use the image as long as people reference your work. For the time being I have tagged the images thus:
Copyrighted This image is copyrighted. The copyright holder allows anyone to use it for any purpose, provided that reference is clearly made to the publication: Pierre Dèzes 1999, "Tectonic and metamorphic Evolution of the Central Himalayan Domain in Southeast Zanskar (Kashmir, India)". Mémoires de Géologie (Lausanne) No. 32, ISSN 1015-3578 or the website: http://comp1.geol.unibas.ch/zanskar/
NOTE: The following conditions must not include terms which restrict usage to educational or not-for-profit purposes or prohibit derivatives.
Details about the above note...

If the image requires attribution, use {{Attribution}} instead.
which is just what you say on your website. Let me know if you have a problem with this. Andreww 20:48, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Military of Switzerland

Hello !

You might be interested by Gun politics in Switzerland as well. We had hard time trying to keep US-inspired politics out of this article (one person actually mentionned that Swiss people wanted guns because they were aware and proud of their "constitutional rights" :p ). My remark on talk:Gun Politics and Talk:Gun politics in Switzerland are instances this.

Also, perhaps you could possibly have clues about the 5,56mm vs 5,6mm issue for the rifle, for instance...

Cheers ! Rama 08:40, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zanskar

I apologise for being so accidental in deleting the wikilink you mentioned. But again, forgive and forget. I wouldn't like to hear such heart-breaking comments, honestly, in reference to the previous summary. Also, in your summary, you wrote: "As usually, MrTan..". It should be written as usual.

You also asked for what Dard means. They are an Indo-European people. I have read about them in travel guides which I borrowed from the community library. I shall highlight two Internet webpages which talk about the Dard people: [2], [3]. The Mons are Dard themselves; the travel guide "Trekking in Ladakh" said that they are "early Dard settlers of Ladakh". The physical features of Zanskaris suggests that they are of mixed descent. I have no objections of having "... notably Dard and Mon" in the article, but it would be nice to differentiate what "Mon" is and "Dard".

Good Luck. Mr Tan 07:23, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Appeal

I have noted this picture of yours Image:Leh2.jpg, once used for Zanskar, but removed by yourself because of being black and white and the subject of the picture itself; the Leh palace, which was supposed to be used on Ladakh, not Zanskar.

I believe that there is the original coloured version of it which I believe, you took it during the late 1980s or early 1990s during your visit there.

If possible, I would greatly appreciate if you would like to upload the original, coloured picture onto wikipedia and use it for Leh or Ladakh. I like the picture, really. And I really wish to know and hope whether the original (as above picture) is coloured.

Thanks! Mr Tan 16:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Overhaul - gallery orientation

Why? In the first place, why do the admins create such technical features such as <gallery> for us? Secondly, why do mind such the design overhaul? I would appreciate if you give a good reason. I do not like your comment "As a matter of fact, yes I do mind your design rehaul." You should have the courtesy to give your reasons on your opposition taste to my edits and not wait for me to ask! Furthermore, even though my edits are granted as Free Use, you must be sensitive and consider the efforts that I put in to edit the article. And so, in that case, giving explanation in advance is the most important thing to your client.

Thirdly, the article does not belong to you, and you are editing as if its yours in a way, to some extent. If you wanted to revert my overhaul, you should have done that in your previous contact with me, in which case I would not have suspected your intention of sabotage. Do you have any hatred on me or what?

I really hope that your heart is pure. I had enough of Mel Etitis, whose reverts and edits are close to the extent to emotional abuse, for three long months, editing nearly every article that I edited, and I do not wish that you are like him, and I hope that I will not cross his path again. His interactions with me did more emotional harm to me than the reverse.

Anyway, for the gallery matter, please seek Wikipedia:Manual of Style. I really prefer the overhaul, it looks much better, and admins would not create such a template to organise these pictures in a template. People who want to see the picture would have click on it to see the enlarged version; it would be silly for you to do such a thing if that is your intention. Furthermore, this suits very well for articles who have a lot of images but has relatively little space to display content. You may see Thubten Gyatso for example, a short article which has four images, all displayed using the gallery template. It is widely excepted among wikipedians, and I'm afraid that I've to highlight that you're a poor exception in terms of designation ideas.

Also, I have provided some references on the Dard people on your userpage, why do you delete those edits? Please explain as well. I feel that these links [4], [5] are very credible, please see the previous messages. Travel guides are just as reliable; otherwise the publisher will not approve it for sale and the Singapore government would not allow it to be circulated among the local populace.

I do not like to drag on matters for too long, I want peace, not disputes, and for goodness sake please visit wikipedia more often to resolve this issue quickly. I happy you happy, and then there will be no dispute if everyone cooperates and respects the tastes and interests of each other's, and we can carry on editing wikipedia at our own interest without a burden in mind, Okay? Thanks!

Mr Tan 10:13, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Image Tagging Image:Zanskar alpage col.jpg

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Thanks for uploading Image:Zanskar alpage col.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as {{Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

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[edit] Re:Geology of the Himalaya

Hi. I added that reference for the length of Himalaya. In the lead of the article, it was said that the length of the Himalaya was about 2900 km. However, most sources said it would be over 2400 km. So I changed the length in the lead, and then gave a ref for the changed length (but not in the lead, the ref was added in a subsequent paragraph where the length was again mentioned). So, the placement of the ref may be wrong, it should have been placed immediately after the length. Also I am checking the author link. Thanks. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slow Down Baby

This article should be removed. The "Candy Man" video hasn't even been released yet! Christina and RCA probably have not even thought about the 4th single yet. It's just a delusional fan posting this page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.143.253.230 (talk) 22:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] About Image:Mt Kailash sat.jpg

Hi This is about the image that you have uploaded. As a user has commented "Please move UP caption Mount Kailash to enable mount kailash peak visible.Thanks." . Can you please do that and make a more user-appealing indication of the mount kailash and then upload the image to commons please? Thanks --Spundun 04:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)