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[edit] Please.

The fact that it is named "Mountain State University" definitely leads to confusion as to whether it is indeed a state school or not. Therefore, I added the statement "in spite of" again. As far as its calibre, well, that's academic. --DodgerOfZion 23:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

This page is blatant advertisment. Many students and faculty and community member have added relevant and factual information to the site, only to have administrators from Mountain State delete the material from their "advertisemtn here" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedocjd (talk • contribs) 11:49, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advert Tag

I added the advert tag because the article actually reads like a brochure for MSU, rather than an encyclopedia article. I suspect that most of it was written by the University's Public Relations Department. All of it is unsourced. I would tackle making significant changes to it myself, but I am not familiar enough with the subject to do anything more than trim it back to a stub. I think it would be preferable to expand and source it, with an eye toward WP:NPOV. Take a look at University of Virginia or West Virginia Wesleyan College as examples of pretty good articles on colleges and universities (though they could use some improved sourcing, too). Cheers! Cmichael 13:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Having said all that, I went ahead and tried to wikify the article some. Added some section headings, rearranged some text, added some wikilinks, removed some blatant boosterism. I removed the listing of accreditations because one assumes that a legitimate college is accredited, and listing all of them out looked too much like a testimonial. Removed all the address and phone number info...added a link to the official website for those who want to contact the university. I think I improved it, but it still needs work on sources and NPOV, and it still reads too much like a brochure. Cmichael 14:17, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm removing the advert tag. The article, at present, is just a stub, but it no longer reads as an ad. If somebody puts all the blatant boosterism back, we can always put back the advert tag. Cmichael 04:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted history section

I have deleted the history section as it constituted copyrighted material. (Should have noted that under my edit - sorry.) It also seemed to violate NPOV.

Disclosure: I work with publications at MSU. I've made changes in the past to try and fix some of the NPOV "advertisement" problems and add neutral material such as the list of buildings and facilities. I've tried to handle this material in a way that meets Wikipedia's standards and presents MSU accurately. As far as I know the only edits that have come through any kind of official university process are the ones I have made.

Knowing that corporate edits are strongly discouraged, I plan to limit my future participation in this article to the discussion page unless I see something that's copyrighted (as happened today) or egregiously incorrect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DSpencer (talk • contribs) 17:29, August 21, 2007 (UTC).

I think the article is better now than it was when I added the advert tag last May. But, it could still be much better, in my opinion. I don't know a lot about MSU, or I'd tackle it myself. It would be good if someone who is familiar with the subject would try to create a solid, verifiable piece on the organization. Cheers! Cmichael 21:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree absolutely & will be glad to provide info or help in any appropriate way. DSpencer 13:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


Utter nonsense, this is a blatant advertisment, Information which is factual is constantly removed from the page by Mountain State Administrators . The whole page should be deleted as a blatant advertisement —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedocjd (talk • contribs) 11:51, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dubious source

I've noticed the edit war over a section in the history section and decided to look up the source given. First of all, I can not even confirm that a Hedgesville Journal even exists much less determine if it is a reliable source. If no one is able to provide more tangible proof, such as a weblink to the paper or an official record or provide an alternative source, then the part being cited will have to be removed as unverifiable. --Farix (Talk) 02:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)