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[edit] Dai Miao (temple)

Dai Miao is probably important enough to warrant its own article. I've never been, nor have I really read much on it. Somebody with a knowledge of the temple should remove the redirects and write it (then link to it from this article). Bobak 02:22, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll second this. If the Dai Miao doesn't get its own article, it should at least be mentioned in the opening blurb of this article, because I was astonished to be redirected as I was. ^L_Wizard @ 07:46, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

As a temporary fix (some 2 years after the complaint was lodged) I have set the redirect to jump to the correct section within the article. Mutt (talk) 06:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Extensive plagiarism?!?

Hi there.

I've just noticed that virtually all of the content on this page is directly lifted from http://www.mount-tai.com.cn/en/index.html

In the page's history, the major change is from this version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Tai&oldid=11921363 to this version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Tai&direction=next&oldid=11921363

The editor (username=RolfMueller) labels this edit a "complete re-write." Is there any way to verify the veracity of this claim? How can we know if mount-tai.com plagiarized wikipedia or vice-versa?

Not sure what to do about this.

142.165.169.10 (talk) 22:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

It's hard to know which one came first. The English at the Chinese site on Mount Tai is too good. I've never seen a Chinese-based site using such flawless English.

If you look here, you can see something closer to what you might expect: [1]. Pretty good, but still not very natural (e.g., "It's a precious cultural heritage of Chinese nation.")

So my suspicion is that the Chinese site has copied from Wikipedia. Or perhaps Rolf Mueller took the original text from the Chinese site, cleaned it up and rewrote it, and put it on Wikipedia. It was then copied back to the Chinese site. Far fetched? Maybe. But unless you can go back and see what the Chinese site was when Rolf Mueller 'rewrote' the article, it's hard to know who did the plagiarising. Why don't you ask Rolf Mueller?

Bathrobe (talk) 02:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)