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User (now registered as NHguardian, previously referred to as Anonymous user (IPs 47.234.0.59 and 71.181.51.206)) continues to remove external link. No other contributors to this article have objected to inclusion of link, which provides relevant hiking data and photos. Jrclark (talk) 00:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)



Anonymous user (IPs 47.234.0.59 and 71.181.51.206) continues to remove link to site that provides content and photos, including that used on the article. Link is not a store and is not in violation of Wikipedia:External Links avoidance category, section 5. Jrclark 16:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)



User JRCLARK is attempting to promote a personal website for financial gain including but not limited to banner clicks and an online store. This wikipedia entry already has suitable external references and therefore this link is NOT needed under wikipedia excessive links policy. See Links normally to be avoided rule 4, and 12 and rule stated "You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent".


Anonymous user 47.234.0.59 and 71.181.51.206 are same person. Anonymous user published personal information of registered user Jrclark. Anonymous user has published anonymous user's own link on a non-related article, violoating false interpretation of rule 12. Anonymous user is not registered.

In regard to item 4, "Links mainly intended to promote a website. " - link is provided for information related to subject, not for promotion of a web site. Item 12 has been incorrectly cited by anonymous user. "Links to blogs and personal web pages" - link in question is not a blog. Link is hiking reference site, including statistics from various hikes, photos, and ratings. Jrclark 17:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


"Due to the rising profile of Wikipedia and the amount of extra traffic it can bring a site, there is a great temptation to use Wikipedia to advertise or promote sites. This includes both commercial and non-commercial sites. You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. If the link is to a relevant and informative site that should otherwise be included, please consider mentioning it on the talk page and let neutral and independent Wikipedia editors decide whether to add it. This is in line with the conflict of interest guidelines. Note that since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links may not alter search engine rankings."

CITED: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links


According to these guidelines, User JRCLARK is to submit links controlled by him to this TALK page for review by a neutral user. It does not matter how relevant he may think it is. I will note that he has a FINANCIAL VESTED INTEREST in having his page linked and therefore linking his site should not be encouraged.


So called Personal information is available publicly, and was cited as such in original posting: (deleted)


JRCLARK is trying to reduce credibility of whistleblower, despite whistle blowers ample and public references including but not limited to whois public database, Wikipedia external links rules, and JRCLARK's website itself containing a store and banner advertisements which are used as a form of revenue collection.


Anonymous unregistered (IPs 47.234.0.59 and 71.181.51.206) user's, contributions started with uncited removals of links. Anonymous unregistered user posted personal information on Jrclark. "Please consider" is not the same as "is to submit." Jrclark does indeed control linked site, which was the basis of information put onto this article. Wikipedia:External Links does not cite use of small store or minimal banner advertisements as violation of policy. Revenue collection is not encouraged on linked site, nor is it required. No fee is requested or demanded to use information contained on linked site. Link site is not fincially motivated, but rather is a hiking reference site that provides relevant data that does not fit in the Wikipedia article. Jrclark 18:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)