Talk:Mount Meager

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[edit] Hot springs & geothermal proposals/research site

Just a note that this is probably the place to do the material on the Meager Creek Hotsprings, unless those are to be documented separately; if they are, then so should the geothermal research site on the mountain's/massif's NE flank. I suspect there are separate cats for hotsprings and for geothermal developments, so if they're included here then those cats should be as well (?).Skookum1 03:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I have herd of the Meager Creek Hotsprings and I was going to add it to the artcle since they are part of Mount Meager.Black Tusk 2:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cascade Range template inappropriate

Just noticed the "notable volcanoes of the Cascades" template has been placed here; no doubt on Garibaldi as well. I wouldn't have an issue with it if it said "notable volcanoes of the Cascade Volcanic Belt" or Cascade whatever-it-is: it's not the Cascade Range. I haven't looked at the edit history to see if you placed this; could have been a statesider for all I know; but unless the Cascades template is reworded in its titling and doesn't focus on the "High Cascades" volcanoes, it's not suitable for a Canadian volcano, even Garibaldi (which Americans continue to think is in the Cascades, as if none of the rest of the Coast Mountains were and it weren't on the far side of the Fraser. Don't mean to be snippy, I'm just very particular about definitions; and even more particular about fuzzification of them. Is the template from the Cascade Range bunch, or from the WikiProject Mountains, do you know? If it's the latter I'll take it up with them in the forum there....BTW I found a really amazing couple of shots of the top of Meager, maybe it's Plinth or Devastator I'm not sure; google "Randall and Kat's Flying Photos" and tour the first flight, the 2006 one to Chilko Lake. User:KenWalker currently has a request in for permission to be able to use their pics for illustrating Wikipedia; have a tour of any of the flights and you'll see why....Skookum1 05:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm the one who put it there, and I tried to put it as Cascade Volcanoes, but it didn't work Black Tusk (UTC)

PS here's the link to Randall and Kat's Flying Photos. Enjoy. (100s of great pics!).Skookum1 06:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I'll see who made it, and take it up with them; probably at the Mountains project, I suspect, if not directly from Cascade Range; probably both.Skookum1 06:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I changed it to direct to Cascade Volcanoes, 'cause that's its title even if the volcanoes part isn't capitalized in the template name (it should have been, if they're going to use the phrase; othewise "volcanoes in the Cascade Range" y'see, which of course wouldn't include Garibaldi and northwards...the confusion partly dates to a time when the whole cordillera, even the Purcells or Selkirks were considered "the Cascades" - but not "Cascade Range", more "Cascade Mouhtains" until formalization of geographic and geological analysis got going, and on their separate paths, too, as geographic regions only rarely correspond to geological ones; the old usage and context can be seen on some topo maps which will say, on the spine of the Lillooet Ranges around Joffre, "summit of the Cascades as defined for legal purposes". But the term there is "the Cascades", not "Cascade Range", which is an American term; it's all confusing, as people always say Coast Range but the proper official name is Coast Mountains; why, I don't know; but it is citable that there are usages in BC where Cascades means the Coast Mountains not as a legal definition of same, but as a terminology in law to name the whole range, which hadn't been really named at that time (it would have been the Royal Engineers who first chartered that, then a guy named Frank Swannell, who needs an article...); just an abstraction, not a designation; and there was Cascade, B.C., somewhere along Highway 3 or so between Trail and Cranbrook, but I'll have to look at my ghost towns book again; in the silver rush, the mountains around there were also referred to as the Cascades...and those were largely Americans, as in the gold rush, and you'd think they'd know better; on the other hand lately Red Mountain's ad campaign has moved the Rossland Range to the "Kootenay Rockies" (which to me means on the east side of the Trench....).Skookum1 07:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NorthAmNative template inclusion

I've decided to add this particular page to the Indigenous poeples of North America WikiProject because the hot springs have a First Nations-lore component and it should be introduced and hopefully honed by First Nations contributions/perspective over time: the springs were named Teiq althoug I don't know what it means, or what the current spelling is; they were the farthest up the Lillooet River the spirit-beings/wizards known as The Transformers reached during their journey into the Lillooet Country, and were a "training" place for young First Nations men who would private themselves at the springs to acquire power and knowledge. In this area, also, was found the blackstone chief's head pipe that is so famopus of Lillooet artifacts; found buried in volcanic ash, one supposes from the 2500BP eruption of Meager; if its location and depth were recorded when it was found (BC Museum, or Vancouver Museum, not sure which; maybe MusAnthro at UBC...), it could be pinned to that eruption specifically; evidence of a high culture in the region before the volcano let loose; similarly in the lower Fraser Valley although there I can't remember if the story had to do with the volcano (Baker) or with the river (google [[Xa:ytem as there's no Wiki article on it yet).

[edit] Picture

This could really use a picture"s", since it is generally considered the northermost major Cascade volcano as I read on the artical Cascade Volcanoes...

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.105.206.52 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I have lots of photos of this area, so I added one showing the three major peaks. I also have other photos of most of the individual peaks in the Meager group; Plinth, Capricorn, Pylon, Devastator. I'll add those to the other articles later. --Seattle Skier (See talk tierS) 07:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Seattle Skier, do you have a picture of Perkin's Pillar? I'm just wondering, because it's a volcanic plug on the steep north side of Capricorn Mountain. Black Tusk 10:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I have no photos of Perkin's Pillar, either before or after its collapse. There is an excellent photo on the cover of the Geological Association of Canada 2003 field trip guide, with a helicopter hovering above the unbroken Pillar. Since the Pillar has now collapsed, this photo may be eligible for fair use under Wikipedia guidelines, or the photographer (a Geological Survey of Canada volcanologist) may agree to release it under a free license. I'll send her an email asking about it. --Seattle Skier (See talk tierS) 18:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, do you have a photo of the north face of Plinth Peak? If you do, it could be useful for the 2350 BP eruption of Mount Meager article, since Plinth Peak is the most recent peak of Mount Meager to erupt. Why I'm asking for the north face is because It's the remnant of the inner crater wall, which was destroyed from the last eruption. Black Tusk 08:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I do have several photos of the north face of Plinth, including some which show the area of the vent for the 2350 BP eruption. I've been too busy this month to edit Wikipedia much, but I'll add some photos when I have more time (and also try to follow up on the Perkin's Pillar photo). --Seattle Skier (talk) 08:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Ok. What about photos of volcanoes outside the Cascades, like the Stikine and Anahim volcanic belts, Chilcotin Plateau Basalts, Wells Gray-Clearwater Volcanic Field, etc? Those areas have a lack of photos (Mount Edziza is the only volcano with a photo). Black Tusk 10:19, 06 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] For an FA...

This article is close to FA, but could use some touching up. Needs:

  • References
  • Expanded information

Once we get there, I'll see how we are doing. Meldshal42Hit meWhat I've Done 20:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)