Talk:Mount Kinabalu

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[edit] Lore

Any local legends please? E.g. Dusunic beliefs of the mountain as home of anscestal spirits, and Chinese legends of a dragon at the peak guarding a pearl. Also, true stories of climbers getting lost, etc. Like one that made the newspapers a long time ago: a European girl who got separated from her tour -- there was a huge search-and-rescue -- found dead days (weeks?) later. Please contribute if you have enough knowledge of these. --Lionelster 04:06, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


- I climbed Kinabalu three weeks ago and heard the following tale about the name of the mountain; There used to live a powerful dragon up at the top of the hill and he had a massive treasure of jewelry. Many men tried to slay the beast and acquire the treasure but no-one succeeded until a chinese prince came and was victorious. The prince wed a local malay girl living in the outskirts of mountain. After some time of joyful family-life, the prince got a message from china that his father had died and he went on to journey there to claim the throne. He was of course supposed then come back to get his wife to china, but months passed without no note of return. The malay wife started climbing every day to the top of the mountain to see if his prince would be arriving by boat, but alas, he was not returning. One day she took her life in the top of the mountain and thus the mountain became called mount Kinabalu.

I also heard that some rock formations are thought to be tracks of the dragon, but I failed to see them.--jappjapp75 14:34, 10 December 2005

[edit] Ain't Mt Kinabalu 4104 m ??

According to the high school geography textbooks of the Ministry of Education of Malaysia, Mt Kinabalu is 4104 m. User:Randytsx

That figure is outdated. --Lionelster 03:52, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

My atlas had this mountain listed as 4101m rather than 4095m as in the article. It says here that the mountain is growing. Also alot of google hits for 4101 - [1] -- Astrokey44|talk 10:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
CIA world factbook has 4100 and Peakware has 4102 -- 24.86.195.69 07:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Man, the Malaysian ministry of education has been misleading generations of students.

"Gunung tertinggi di Asia Tenggara" ("highest mountain in South-East Asia")? My sweet ass it is.

Thank you, wikipedia, for finally pointing this out to me.

161.142.97.109 (talk) 02:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Is Puncak Jaya located in Southeast Asia or Oceania? At Puncak Jaya, the article claims that Puncak Jaya is the highest in Oceania. In Mount Kinabalu, it states that Kinabalu is the third highest behind Puncak Jaya. So, there seems to be a little confusion here. __earth 17:20, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

It would seem that there is a difference between the "political" boundaries and the "geographical" boundaries of southeast asia. Because Indonesia is part of ASEAN, the entire country is considered part of "Southeast Asia". This is flawed thinking though, because by that logic, all of Russia could be considered Europe. Geographically, the area known as Australiasia is considered the boundary and that region includes ALL of New Guinea. Of course, this is an issue that can always be argued either way, but in my opinion, considering this is a geographic claim; it should be backed up by geography, not politics. Perhaps we can describe it in such a way that it is not given a rank. How does this seem:
"It is the tallest mountain in Malaysia and on the island of Borneo, as well as one of the tallest in Southeast Asia, trailing Hkakabo Razi of Myanmar (Burma) and, depending on where the boundary of Southeast Asia is drawn, Puncak Jaya of New Guinea."--Daamsie 06:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Correction

The attached Palm tree IS NOT a palm tree, it is a fern. sltan

[edit] Replacing photo

Replacing Willsmith pitcher_plant with pitcher_plant_mt_kinabalu.jpg

Replacing Willsmith Mount_Kinabalu.jpg with MtKinabalu_view_from_kundasan.jpg sltan

[edit] Some Images

I uploaded these images, [2], [3] and [4], (image references obvious by their filename) - which are high altitude photos of clouds from Mount Kinabalu, and I was wondering if it would be appropriate to insert them in either the Mount Kinabalu Article or the Cloud article, because I know both of them are already image saturated. The thing is that I'm not too sure of all the cloud formation classifications (although it fascinates me) to insert them in specific pages either. -- Natalinasmpf 23:51, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Porters

"Since there are no roads, the supplies for the Laban Rata hut are carried by porters, mostly old women, who bring up to 30 kilograms of supplies on their backs."

Is this some kind of joke? From my experience, all of the porters are at most middle-aged men. 202.179.105.18 03:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I'm removing it. Mgiganteus1 08:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Most Important

The mountain and its surroundings feature a huge variety of flora, and is one of the world’s most important[citation needed] biological sites.

The citation requested is later in the article where it explains about the biodiversity exceeding that of all Europe.202.82.171.186 04:01, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Born to be wild

I added this special and rare video feature:*Born To Be Wild: Mt. Kinabalu, 05/15/2008 --Florentino floro (talk) 08:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)