Talk:Mount&Blade

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[edit] History

As usual with every major release the entire history section is now obsolete. Bye bye accomplished history. 88.242.84.38 (talk) 16:28, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Screenshots

The screenshots are from v0.751, the game is now on v0.808 and the graphics and GUI have changed. The screenshots need to updated in order to show this.

Now the game is up to v0.903 and updated screen shots are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.74.87.58 (talk) 02:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crouched lance?

I'm fairly sure it's couched lance, not crouched lance. Tzarius 07:49, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No problem, sire! I am sure you are right. I write all these out of my own memeories, believe or not, cause I am currently at my workplace. Anyway thanks for fixing my horrible gramma and spelling mistakes. Please continue to add more material.

It is couched lance.--PrinceScamp 04:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

And deals over 200 Damage when couched and properly aimed.Enough to kill a Knight and his fully-armored Charger.--CAN T 22:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Heh heh, yeah. Good times. --PrinceScamp 19:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dual wielding

One very minor thing: "dual wielding" has an entry here and is revelant (RPG). I am not sure if the link should be removed. GriffinCheng 08:00, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

There is no dual wielding in the game. --PrinceScamp 04:11, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Length?

Personally, I feel this article is a bit too long, but I'm not sure which bits are unnecessary. Any thoughts? Naar

I guess the current strength are: calvary combat, immersive combat experience, open-ended gameplay concentrated on role-playing but not gimmiks. Also, it is done by a very small team of developers with a little fan-based support. I guess the article should reflect these properties which is unique in current market and also make it worthwhile.

I have shorten some portions I find unecessary. I hope in the future, someone could rewrite "Combat" section for better highlight. Or drop "Trading" or just incorporate part of it into "Story and Background". Untill another version release, see ya! Thank you. GriffinCheng 08:00, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Mount&Blade

  • Move. Straightforward: the game's name doesn't contain spaces. No official source has it containing spaces. For those of you not familiar with Wikiquette, you're supposed to vote yes or no on this so the administrators can see that there's a consensus to move the page. Also, sign your name by typing four tildes: ~~~~ —Simetrical (talk) 05:24, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Do Not Move. The game designer is not a native English speaker, so I don't think we should be slaves to strict literalism.Naar 10:54, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
Don't you think that's a bit patronizing? Omission of spaces is certainly a valid stylistic choice in principle; that someone is a non-native speaker shouldn't invalidate their stylistic choices, surely? A name is a name . . . —Simetrical (talk) 10:07, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
No, I don't see it that way. To be fair to the developer, his English is far better than my Turkish. However, you must have noticed that the game contains quite an amount of typos, odd word choices and grammatical mistakes. In my opinion, this also extends to the title. I think it's better to bring these to his attention rather than passing them off as stylistic choices. Naar June 28, 2005 09:19 (UTC)
So then if the developer is informed that the normal format includes spaces, and he still wants the name to remain without, you'll change your vote? (It's a moot point for the time being, since he's vacationing, but for when he gets back.) —Simetrical (talk) 29 June 2005 14:52 (UTC)
Yes, if it actually is a deliberate choice, then changing the article to Mount&Blade with Mount & Blade redirecting to it would be the right thing to do. I'll still find it rather odd, though. Naar June 29, 2005 19:40 (UTC)
  • Move Again, it is the game's actual name. Robmods 18:51, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've done the move - article names should be their 'correct' title. Talrias (t | e | c) 19:53, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] M&B

  • This acronym is by no means official (nor widely accepted), so I expanded it to Mount&Blade. Also the article suggested the game run on any Microsoft Windows version, which is not true. --Cbb 07:53, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Btw, the forum user Jaghatai Khan is ftw. --Doktor Illuminasyon 22:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

However, the Version 0.808 shortcut icon has the acronym "M&B" on it -- AledJames 15:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gameplay section NPOV

The gameplay section mentions "advanced AI which allows each soldier to act as a complete individual leading to extremely convincing battles". As much as I love this game, this sounds like an advert and is unprovable (many players would also beg to differ). The Distribution section also sounds like it's not from a NPOV Qoute:" it is still well below the average price of games on the market and many users feel is well above the average quality of games on the market, despite the low cost." This article isn't here to tell use ho cheap and awesome this game is. 70.23.40.97 01:28, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


Even though the game is cheap and awesome. ^_~ 200.163.72.28 19:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Modification Section

Do we really need to mention specific mods?

Simply yes, because most of these mods aren't just new addition to game but total conversions like, 1066 set in England during Norman invasion, Middle Earth mod set during War of the Ring or Onin no ran in medieval Japan. There is very little left out of original game and most of these mods contain more then original game which is still in beta. In my opinion some of these mods deserve separate pages. ;-)) --Ivan Bajlo 09:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. I think they should not be mentioned. SharkD 20:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
no. the purpose of that section is to describe, in general, the use of mods in M&B and provide examples of what some of the mods have done. we should not elaborate on the features of individual mods because the title of this article is Mount&Blade not Mount&Blade Mods. if you wish to describe individual mods you should make a separate page listing the mods followed by a brief description. 216.190.185.10 18:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Serial

Please give me a serial number! PLEASE! PLEASE!

83.31.186.36 12:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Edit: Just buy the damn game. -Audun.

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[edit] Mods

The Expansion In Progress link really needs to be changed to something other than Forgotten Glory, especially since I've not been working on it in a very long time and am not likely to continue :( - Leprechaun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.241.181.182 (talk) 21:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Equivalent Nations

The respective nations the factions seem off to me. The Swadians are more Germanic in style, the Vageirs Rus, the Nords Scandinavian and I believe the consensus was that the Rhodoks were based on the Italian city states. Zenshu (talk) 11:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

When I looked, the Vaegir faction had included a link to the Kievan Rus, spelled wrong however. It was a dead link. I fixed it.4sher (talk) 12:41, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

All of this is original research and opinion, as such is opinion to multiple interpretations and has its fallacies. Swadians make good Germanic knights, but where are the Germanic soldiers, the various foot soldiers and such, aside from the crossbowmen. The Rus and all Slavic groups I can think of used mounted archers, where are those, and I don't recall ever hearing of a Rus knight. And the Rhodoks, how are they Italian? Italians had a rather alot of knights and mounted troops, nor do I recall them being reknown for a specialization of the spear. I do recall the Italians making good crossbows, as an evolution to the increasingly powerful armour of the knights of rival (Italian) cities. Personally they make me think more of the Picts, as I recall the lowest member is a Rhodok Tribesman, they specialize in the use of mass spears (as the Celts, Picts and Scots did) and use crossbows (some sources say that Picts used small hand crossbows, or something similar, not very similar to the Rhodok crossbow but its what it makes me think of). The only real exceptions are the Nords and Khanate who both use words that clearly state the source of inspiration for them. It is far more accurate to state the style of warfare of the various factions that to tell people your opinions on their cultural base. The Swadians fight as knights and sergeants with powerful crossbowmen, the Vaegir fight with large axes or bardiche and powerful archers, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 05:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Also, come to think of it, theres a half dozen (at least) groups that the Khanate could be considered similar to, the Huns or Magyar, Scythians, Sarmatians, Mongols, other tribes of Mongolia, Turks (the last three of whom I understand actually used the word Khan and Khanate). Also, why was Swadia called a the equivelent to a fantasy nation, fantasy games have magic and elves and stuff, no fantasy here, not exactly historical either, I guess its best an Action RPG. Anyways, limit further comments about their supposed equivelent nation to things that you can support with facts, its a common system for someone to create something and use words and items associated with things to make people think of what the creator wants them to. For instance Conan, alot of Howard's cities and cultures are very similar to cultures we already know so he doesn't have to waste time telling use they are Greek and then describing Greek culture to us, he can just say, they're like this and we say, so they're like Greeks so they are also like this and that. Usually they are only like that in limited ways, for instance Tolkien's Rohirrim make people think of Scandianavians, but I never heard of a Viking hoard on horse, infact I remember reading that Saxons usually lost when they tried to fight from horse, or at least would blame the loss on the poor horsies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 06:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
The Nords have similarities with the Kalmar Union? In what way, the Nords are all infantry, the Scandinavian countries started using cavalry before they became the Kalmar Union. Also, the military similariaties with the Khanate and the Mongols are thinner than their names similarities, a half dozen or so groups that come to mind use the word Khan or a similar word. Dozens of tribes and culturals fought from horse back with spears and bows, from the Sumerians to various Asian groups to Cossacks. Mongol military used nafta and captured Chinese (and others) technology and auxilaries, fought with a skill and unfified fighting style not seen in most other armies of the time, nomad or city dweller and their generals led from where our modern generals do, the rear where they can command their troops. I seem to recall the Italian states having knights, not just crossbows and spears, I think I already said that. People stop putting in your opinions please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 14:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Also, the Vaegir are still only superficially similar to the Rus and the Swadians superficially similar to the Empire, I seem to recall the Empire's military using spears and pikes (alot of pikes with the Landschneckts), not just uber infantry. If they are representitive of the Holy Roman Empire they are a two dimensional representation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 14:39, 7 May 2008 (UTC)