Talk:Morning Glory Zell-Ravenheart

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[edit] Unicorn

Added a citation for "living unicorn." It's not a great one, but it is a citation. I'll keep my eyes open for a better one.

Septegram 04:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Sacrificing quality for quantity, I've added a couple more links on this. If I run across better ones, I'll add 'em.
Septegram 04:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

Why is moving the link to her business from the name of the business to the end of the sentence considered an "improvement?" Septegram 18:23, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] There is a link to a really obnoxious site with sheep running around the page.

That unicorn dreams site may have relevant information but those sheep running around on the page make it impossible to read. Further, linking to a site like that gives a very unprofessional tone to a Wikipedia article. Can you find a less offensive source for the information? GBYork 21:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC) This user was found to be a sock of Mattisse

Not yet. The trails turn off easily by clicking in the upper left-hand corner, but the music doesn't seem to have an "off" button.
Believe me; if I could have found a more professional site, I'd have done so. At the rate we're going, I may have to research it and create one myself (in my copious spare time!)
Septegram 14:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inappropriate to use Wikipedia to thank family and friends for letters of love and support

As nice as it is that the subject of the article wants to thank her friends and family, an encyclopedia article in an inpropriate place to do it. See WP:EL - links to personal websites are to be avoided. GBYork 21:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC) This user was found to be a sock of Mattisse

It isn't a spam link, it's a citation of her illness and injury. WP:V and all that. And she didn't put it in, I did.
Davidkevin 16:34, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
It doen't matter who put it there. Consult WP:EL: Links to be avoided GBYork 13:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC) This user was found to be a sock of Mattisse
Then please use phrasing which doesn't appear to imply that she did.
Davidkevin 22:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:Undue Weight re.: A.C.E. Events

Article about various figures in the Neo-Pagan religious movement do not exist as a means to provide promotion for A.C.E. events. A.C.E. is a fine organization, and Starwood and WinterStar Symposium are marvelous to attend from all first-hand accounts I've ever read, but unless a Pagan figure is an A.C.E. organizer, shoehorning plugs for these events into these articles appear to me to be violations of WP:Undue_Weight. -- Davidkevin 18:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, appearing as a featured speaker at the biggest and best-known Neo-Pagan festival in America is an important credit to anyone who is a professional lecturer in the fields that Starwood is known for (including New Age subjects, entheogens, etc). However, I agree that a list of public appearances is a superior and more encyclopedic addition to any such subject's article, and eliminates the issue of WP:Undue_Weight. I provided one for Oberon Zell-Ravenheart, and M. Macha Nightmare, and I have now provided one for Morning Glory Zell-Ravenheart. If you would like to help me provide such lists for other articles where they would be more appropriate than just the Starwood (or Starwood, Pagan Spirit Gathering, and Free Spirit) mention and take those out of the body of the text, I would not only agree with that action but applaud it.Rosencomet 20:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting appearances and some text

I've just deleted the list of appearances due to my perception that it is listcruft. Morning Glory as been making public appearances for over thirty years, at least since 1974-75 and probably longer. Paring such a list even to "notable" appearances might be difficult if not impossible. I don't believe a laundry list of appearances adds anything to the entry or encyclopedic understanding of the subject. --PigmanTalk to me 02:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proper form of name(s)?

In this and the Oberon Zell Ravenheart article, sometimes the last two name are hyphenated, other times not. Which is it, officially? ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 02:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I checked, it's "Zell-Ravenheart" per Mythic Images website and Adler. Fixed. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sourcing

I doubt I'll get to it tonight, but this needs sourcing to be up to WP:V standards. I might get to it soon, but if someone wants to first, a lot of it can be covered with Adler, especially the most recent revision. Ah hell, I'll try to source it, but I'll have to flag the bits that aren't covered in the books and zines I have at hand. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)