Talk:Morley (cigarette)

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Can anyone confirm the Outer Limits part? I'd prefer not to have to go buy the DVDs.

Well, I went ahead and added the relevant DVD to my list on Blockbuster.com and it should arrive tomorrow. So I'll hopefully be able to confirm it tomorrow. Presuming it's in the episode Resurrection anyways.

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[edit] Aside: Marleys

Wasn't there a persistent rumour that one of the major tobacco companies registered Marley (after reggae musician and famous pot-smoker Bob Marley) as a trademark for cigarettes, for use in the event of marijuana being legalised? Acb 01:35, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Origin?

The important thing that the article currently lacks is: where was the fictional brand _first_ used? Was it the X-Files? Or were the X-Files copying an earlier show?

I agree. There's no real mention of its origins in fiction. The X-Files seems to be the earliest piece to use them, so if they were the first and originators, it needs to be more specific on this, as the article currently does little more than just list its onscreen use. --Bacteria 10:49, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Doubly agree. I'd never heard of it before X-Files, and there seem not to be any references here that predate X-Files, so I would tend to assume that all references to Morley cigarettes are either a nod to X-Files or unsurprising serendipity. --Alfoor 21:15, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
It seems that Morleys first appeared in The Twilight Zone episode "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet." The design on that cigarette carton was seen again on a pack on Mission: Impossible in episode "Operation 'Heart'". The second image in this article also shows that design. I don't know where the red pack started, but it could be The X-files. - LA @ 20:12, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spike or James Marsters?

Is the quote "We smoke Morleys. We both smoke the same brand. We're the only two characters on TV that do," from Spike as Spike or James Marsters as the actor? The entry is a bit vague on this.

MSTCrow 13:32, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
Well, considering how I don't recall Spike ever saying that in the approximate seven years he's appeared onscreen, I'm going to have to assume that it was Marsters. --Bacteria 10:49, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Did Spike ever describe himself as a character on TV? —Tamfang 06:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] spot the packet

Given that packets of Morleys are "seen" in a number of flicks, I take it that the package design is consistent? Is there a picture? —Tamfang 19:33, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I found this link http://www.indyprops.com/pp-morley.htm It has a few pictures of the morley pack.
That's a fan-made replica of a Morley pack from The X-Files, so it doesn't prove anything about Morley's origins or whether the design is consistent between different films and series. GagHalfrunt 10:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Context?

Who created this brand? Why is it used in all of these shows? --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 23:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Just watching "The House on Greenapple Road." About one hour into the movie a character walking out of a police station pilfers a pack of... Morleys. Seems to be the oldest reference. Erislover 22:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Nope, not the oldest. See my comment under Origin. - LA @ 20:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pack designs

There are two pack designs. The "white pack" has a blocky horse on it. The "red pack" looks similar to Marlboros. LA

[edit] Sightings

These are confirmed sightings.

[edit] White Pack

  • Twilight Zone, "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet"
  • Mission: Impossible "Operation 'Heart'"
  • 200 Cigarettes

[edit] Red Pack

  • The X-files
  • Buffy the Vampire Slayer
  • Criminal Minds "North Mammon"

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)