Talk:Mordechai Nisan
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[edit] Sources
Jayjg's stalking aside (whose first edit to the article[1], was reversion of my edit minutes after I made it) are there any sources at all for this article? If yes, please add them, as this would help demonstrate the notability of Mr. Nisan. Thanks.Bless sins (talk) 03:45, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- I've had Nisan on my watchlist ever since I added him as a reference here and then noticed Huldra linking him here. Now, please assume good faith, and please stop making uncivil and false accusations. Regarding Nisan, as pointed out, he gets over 6000 google hits, 155 google scholar hits, almost 170 google books hits, and is the author of 7 books. That establishes his notability. Jayjg (talk) 03:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- Since when is google hits a measure of notability? Secondly, I re-iterate my call to find sources for whatever is in the article already.Bless sins (talk) 04:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Facinating..
This is really facinating; I came across Mordechai Nisan on this talk-page Talk:Ger toshav. I think I will copy the relevant paragraph:
==Comparison to Dhimmi== Why is this comparison being censored? The source provides the opinion of Mordechai Nisan:The author is Mordechai Nisan, a lecturer on the Middle East at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Nisan finds a correspondence between the discriminatory treatment of minorities, dhimmis, in Islamic countries, and the Jewish treatment of Noachides and resident aliens.Heraclius 00:46, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Who is Nisan? Why is his opinion notable? How do you know he really said that? Is the source credible? Don't forget, extreme minority opinions, even if accurately represented (which is unclear), should not be put in Wikipedia articles. Jayjg (talk) 00:48, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
A lecturer on the Middle East at Hebrew U has notable opinions about religious issues? There are tens of thousands of lecturers at Hebrew U, even assuming his unique opinion was correctly represented (and there's no reason to believe it was). In fact, the burden of proof is on you to show that he is
- The source explains who Nisan is. Why isn't his opinion notable? Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it non-notable. There is no majority or minority opinion when it comes to this. Please stop censoring valid, sourced opinions.Heraclius 00:52, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
I welcome your evidence. Jayjg (talk) 00:56, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Notable.
- Not an extreme minority opinion.
- Represented accurately.
After looking around I did find Nisan notable enough to merit his own article; after all he had published several books, etc. and so I started this article. BUT: is his writing good enough to be counted as WP:RS? Frankly, I have no idea, as I am not familiar with any of his books. (With some people, say, Benny Morris, you might disagree strongly with the mans personal views, but we can all agree that his books are well within WP:RS.)
I had no idea that Jayjg actually had added him as a reference! (I didn´t check the history when I added my wiki-link to Syrian occupation of Lebanon)
Now, my obvious question is: why can Nisan´s writing be used as a source on Syrian occupation of Lebanon, but not on Ger toshav? Regards, Huldra (talk) 04:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)