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Contents 1 143.79.13.6 2 Blog: External; Link to Blog + RSS Essay deleted. Why? 3 Wikistalking 4 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheep Are Mammals Too Association 5 Your sig 6 66.190.68.175 7 I've stopped, sorry. 8 Webcomics 9 EDI spam links 10 Nomination for deletion The Evolution Experience 11 Listen Good 12 Bobot Adrenaline 13 Link to ReturnonAffiliate.com under "affiliate marketing" 14 Argox 15 Swiftcover 16 Vandalism on Kosovo page 17 Terry Nichols 18 Vandels 19 yr edit 20 Priština 21 Use subst: for templates in the user_talk namespace 22 Blanking pages 23 Why you delete it? 24 Hey 25 National_Association_of_Realtors 26 Spam, spam, spam, eggs and spam 27 Affiliate-Software-Review.com more commercial? 28 Advertising 29 Ringtones and LinkSpam 30 Affiliate marketing 31 HYIP 32 Michael Jackson nicknames 33 WTF... 34 Commercial links 35 Deleting advertisements 36 wtf 37 Dear Monkeyman 38 Marit Larsen

[edit] 143.79.13.6

The user seems to a sneaky vandal. After your warning, there came a set of further edits on his part, which looked suspiciously like a sneaky vandalism for me, and coincided with several months old disguise tactics from the same IP. The signal to noise ratio from this contributor is near zero, and I would be happy to support a pretty harsh blocking. Note that the typical low-time blocks wouldn't help --- the edit history has pretty big gaps w/o any blocks imposed so far. Note that the vandalism by this user is neatly disguised and takes a long time to remove. Feel free to quote me if you push for a block; add the address on your contributions watchlist meanwhile... VMD, --BACbKA 20:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

It's probably a shared terminal. Whois shows:NS01.ARMY.MIL 52nd and Support Ave Bldg 13 Fort Huachuca AZ 85613-5000 US. I guess it's a slow day on the army base.  ;) Monkeyman 20:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blog: External; Link to Blog + RSS Essay deleted. Why?

Why did you remove my External Link? http://www.consumermatch.com/blog/2006/02/blog-atom-rss-xml-and.html I don't know why Rodii deleted it and who Ric Romero is. Rodii (delete links to Ric Romero, SEO site) Our site is certainly no SEO Site. http://www.consumermatch.com/ We are a Shopping Portal The Post is intended for non-tech savvy people (what fits the description of the majority of our vistors). Did you check our Site? Our Blog and especially the comprehensive Artice about Blogs and RSS? Please let me know. Appreciated. Carsten Cumbrowski mailto: carsten@consumermatch.com The Entry I am talking about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog External Links Blog, Atom, RSS, XML and Syndication/Aggregation ! ? Blogs, ATOM, RSS explained (Essay) 16:28, 19 February 2006 71.195.125.110

Hi Carsten (71.195.125.110). We would love to have you as an editor with Wikipedia but we unfortunately cannot accept commercial and advertisers links. Wikipedia articles are under constant barrage from advertisers and it's nearly impossible to keep the articles clean. Please consider using your expertise to improve the content of the article, we are sorely in need of specialists like yourself. Thanks! Monkeyman 21:34, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up! rodii 21:50, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Monkeyman It's Carsten. I should have logged in :) I am referring to Anonymous User Talk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:71.195.125.110 (2/19/2006 2:50 pm PST) The Article is as much commercial as the Article at Wikipedia. Did you actually read it or was the fact that its posted on ConsumerMatch.com a Shopping Site? Or is it the Adsense Ad?

Please elaborate "commercial links", because I don't get it. The trigger of the Article was certainly the Syndication of RSS Feeds and the creation of our Weblog. If one of our partners can't make sense out of this new Technology then there must be a lot of our Visitors that have the same problem. The Article is not about maximizing sales at all? Not even as "hidden" message. (English is my second language but I did not know that it's that bad. I should have written it in german I guess). It's about Blogs and RSS and how they work and what to do with them. My Partner still visits dozens of News Websites directly because he does not know about RSS and Feed Aggregation etc. This Article is meant to be an eye opener and refers to things normal people (non-Geeks) can relate to. Should I add the Post to my Private Weblog which is not related to the whole thing at all and add that link to Wikipedia? http://www.cumbrowski.com/RoySAC/blog/ Oops, I link to a Commercial Site and also have an Adsense Ad on the Page. Should I do what Shopping.com, Priceline.com, Froogle or ShopWIki, Nextag and PriceGrabber did and add a whole new Article about ConsumerMatch.com to Wikipeda and point out there that we have a blog that also contains Useful Post to non-Shopping related things like explanations of new Technologies and buzzwords that seem spanish to joe everybody's? Let me know. Thanks Cumbrowski Carsten

I'm not sure what your question is. You posted a link to your site on the Blog article in order to drive up traffic and collect revenue on your advertising links. You have an "Advertise on this site" link where people can pay you to place ads. And you are selling things on http://www.consumermatch.com/. Are you asking me if it's ok to advertise your site on wikipedia? The answer is 'no, it is not ok to advertise your site on wikipedia', we have enough trouble keeping ads out of the articles. Also, Wikipedia already has articles on Blogs, Blogging, XML, ATOM, RSS ... why would the Blog article need your link. I'm sorry to sound so harsh here but you can imagine what articles would look like if we allowed anyone to post any link to any article. Monkeyman 23:37, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Aha. It's about the Google Ad. You know what... it bugged me anyway. I removed it for good. I guess it will be okay now to link to the Article or is the fact that the Article is located on a commercial domain already an issue? If so, does that mean, that I could provide the greatest free content without any sales pitch or any other "trick" to divert traffic and Wiki would not be able to link to it and thus not provide information hungry people with what they seek? Are you serious? I still don't think that you read the article and I also think that it would be a useful addition to the article at Wiki because it contains information and explainations that are mission in Wikis Article .... and THAT was the reason why I thought about adding it and then also did. This stupid paranoia that everybody with a comercial Website tries to sell shit to people no matter what and trying to just SPAM Wiki to lure unaware people to their Commerce Hell-Trap is complete rubbis and you know what, you could find out fairly easy by checking from where and to what the link goes. But on the other hand are most Free Everything guys that despite everything that is related to money and commercial easy to deceive by companies and their websites that are the definition of commerce and profit. --Roy-SAC 00:31, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I guess we're talking about this here. OK, then. I think the thing to do at this point is to post what you just wrote on the talk pages at Talk:Blog and Talk:RSS and let the community take a look at your article to see if it makes a contribution worth linking to. My personal opinion is that it does not, but I'm happy to bow to the consensus of the editors. Regardless of your feeling that Monkeyman's point is "rubbis," the fact is that spam is a huge and growing problem here and we have to be vigilant about it, and your site doesn't inspire confidence on first inspection. I would be happy to be proved wrong, but until I am I have to be against using your link, sorry. rodii 01:22, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I did not know that I can do that. See, I am not familar with the complete Wikimedia set of tools. The good thing is, that I might get some usefull responses out of it and maybe recommendations what to change, re-phrase, remove or add. Lets see how it goes. Thanks for the Tip. I will finish V0.9 of my Personal Page first (helps me to get better used to the Wiki Editor and its inner workings :) ). --Roy-SAC 01:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Here is the Post. That is what you meant right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Blog#Opinion_about_Article._Decision_to_add_it_to_the_Blog_Article_or_not --Roy-SAC 02:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks for working with us on this. It's hard when you are trying to contribute and your contributions are deleted, but ultimately we're all working for the good of the encyclopedia-- it's nothing personal. Cheers. rodii 02:07, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikistalking

Wikistalking and creating bogus AfD's is a problem, monkeyman. You and your crew are acting like vandals. Jehochman 18:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Re DAP Technologies VfD - Monkeyman, there is a lot of garbage in Wikipedia, and many articles that need rewriting. Can't you find something better to do that pick on a corporate page that is fairly neutral and informative? 12:55, 20 February 2006 Jehochman

Please don't vandalize articles with improper AfD nominations. I feel that you have been wikistalking me. Jehochman 18:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Can you please cite which article(s) you feel I have vandalized and why you feel I am stalking you? I'm honestly not sure what you're talking about. Monkeyman 18:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing you are referring to this discussion. Please read over it and note my comments. They can in no way be interpreted as vandalising or stalking. You have to expect more scrutiny to your contributions when you are a self-described "Internet Marketer". Monkeyman 18:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for that link. I hadn't seen that, and now I've had a chance to state my point of view. Sincerest thanks! You're a gentleman, not a stalker. Jehochman 19:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheep Are Mammals Too Association

Please change the reasoning behind your vote as the organization is verifiable. Respected and long time contributor User:Jmabel said he remembers it. It isn't nonsense. Just highly ridiculous. —WAvegetarian^TALK_CONTRIBS^EMAIL 22:57, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your sig

You can make the monkey image automatically part of your signature by editing your preferences. In the nickname field put [[Image:Monkeyman.png]] [[User:Monkeyman|Monkeyman]]. You can include [[User talk:Monkeyman|(talk)]] at the end to provide a link to your talk page. Make sure to check the raw signature box. The timestamp will still be added as normal. Note that the link to your talk page is disabled as you are currently looking at your talk page.

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Hi WAvegetarian. Thanks for the tip on my sig. I've made the changes and my life is so much easier.  :) Monkeyman^(talk) 02:21, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 66.190.68.175

Might I ask what you were talking about? I am on a dynamic ip, so you might have been leaving a message for some other user of my provider, but if not, what did you mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.68.175 (talk • contribs)

[edit] I've stopped, sorry.

I can be naive about things like that. Maybe I (or another programmer) could create a regex routine to replace any and all clickbank links with a comment tag, or just nothing. 12:31, 21 February 2006 Spikku

[edit] Webcomics

Webcomic notability guidelines are at WP:WEB. They're basically just a reiteration/clarification of Wikipedia:Verifiability, that Wikipedia articles must be based on published reliable and reputable sources. The alternative -- to create an unreliable encyclopedia -- isn't really a worthwhile option. So, for example, one can write a verifiable article on Narbonic or Penny-arcade because they can be sourced to the New York Times and other reliable sources. There really isn't much serious debate on this issue -- Wikipedia:Verifiability is official policy. So, your key to webcomics-related deletion debates is "Is this article sourced to reliable sources"? If it's just a cast list and a plot summary with no references to reliable sources, it's a likely delete. -- Dragonfiend 16:29, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] EDI spam links

Hey, just dropping a note to say thanks for your watchful eye on the EDI page. I just stared as a Wikipedia editor, and have been trying to assiduous about removing commercial links as I see them, and it's nice to see others are doing the same. No need to reply, just saying thanks! Anca 18:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination for deletion The Evolution Experience

I was wondering if you would reconsider your recommendation that this page is deleted now that the article has been strengthened, with independent sources. I refer you specifically to MINISTRY MAGAZINE. If you feel that more is needed then please leave me talk about how we can make this article better. We are Evonews, 14 people in support of listing The Evolution Experience for historical interest, as it can be independently verified that The Evolution Experience has had a significant impact on the development of dance culture in Wales. User:Evonews 14:00, 22 February 2006 Evonews

Hi Evonews. Sorry about my delete vote, I know you've put a lot of work into the article. I researched The Evolution Experience before voting and I couldn't see where it met WP:CORP or WP:MUSIC. Can you look over those two Wikipedia Policies and see if you can include something in the article which would meet policy? Reviews in magazines or some evidence that many people (>5000) have attended the event? If you can add something that would meet one or both of the policies above I would gladly change my vote to 'keep'. Monkeyman^(talk) 02:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Evonews. Sorry about my delete vote, I know you've put a lot of work into the article. I researched The Evolution Experience before voting and I couldn't see where it met WP:CORP or WP:MUSIC. Can you look over those two Wikipedia Policies and see if you can include something in the article which would meet policy? Reviews in magazines or some evidence that many people (>5000) have attended the event? If you can add something that would meet one or both of the policies above I would gladly change my vote to 'keep'. Monkeyman^(talk) 02:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

The following is an extract of Ministry, a national dance magazine in the United Kingdom.

EVOLUTION EXPERIENCE, Terminal One, The Park House Centre, HaverfordwestMinistry Magazine, August 2002 Issue, Pages 148-149; "Club of the Month, Evolution Experience" (double page review in NATIONAL dance press)

'"Since August 2002 the Evolution Experience crew have dominated the West Wales club scene. Their circus-style events have graced many sea-air-saturated venues in this area, and continue to go from strength to strength. We’re talking a 40k PA system, organomorphic visuals (Que? – Ed) and a light show that would have any hardened clubber reaching for their sunglasses. The combination of police check points near tonight’s venue, the warehouse-style main room and the whistle-wielding clientele give Terminal One a back-in-the-day vibe, of which we heartily approve. No detail has been spared by young promoters Thomas and Declan: the 40ft inflatable chill out church outside is pure class, as is the fun-fair and “bucking penis ride” (don’t ask). The sun is still setting behind us, as Dave Pearce kicks off a ridiculously early 8pm-10pm slot, but the tunes are hard enough to have an already manic crowd jumping for joy. The anthems are flowing as quickly as punters in the 2,000 capacity hanger, and we’re soon down the front getting busy. Things fall into place upon the arrival of rave-master Slipmatt. He’s definitely most at home here, complementing the feel of the night by whipping the punters into a frenzy. Lisa Lashes follows and is as mesmerising as ever, as much an attraction for her superstar DJ persona as her spinning talents. But Terminal One is a night that really belongs to the residents, a tight-knit family of hard dance lunacy that you’re as likely to find along side you on the dance floor than on the decks. The big names were gone by midnight, but the sounds gain velocity, each rezzie taking a half hour turn while the others jump around on the stage area inciting the masses. If you can beg, borrow or steal a copy of their video, you wont regret it. You cannot deny raw talent, and the Evolution Experience crew are a force to be reckoned with, so call the number above, find out about their next event, get a car full and go West."'

PLEASE NOTE: Criteria for companies and corporations

A company or corporation is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

WIKIPEDIAS POLICY: The company or corporation has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself. This criterion excludes: Media re-prints of press releases, other publications where the company or corporation talks about itself, and advertising for the company. 1 Trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report extended shopping hours or the publications of telephone numbers and addresses in business directories. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, television documentaries, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations.

The Evolution Experience more than meets this requirement with just the few articles we have mentioned...

• • Ministry Magazine, August 2002 Issue, Pages 148-149; "Club of the Month, Evolution Experience"
  • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, July 20th 2000 - "Clubbers advised to buy tickets early - or be disappointed"
  • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, July 27th 2000 - "All systems go for Evolution"
  • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, July 8th 2000 - "DJs wanted for Milfords biggest ever night out"
  • The Western Mail, August 2nd 2000 - "Dance Event for Milford Haven"
  • The Western Telegraph, August 3rd 2000 - "Evolution Revolution"
  • The Western Telegraph, August 9th 2000 - "Evolution Sets New Standards"
  • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, August 10th 2000 - "Evolution Revolution as dance fever hits County"
  • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, September 11nd 2000 - "Re-Evolution"
  • Pembrokeshire County Council Public Protection Division v Evolution Event Promotions Limited 2003, Swansea Crown Court. (public record of 500 page published report by a consumer watchdog organisation into Evolution.)

The largest attendance at an event was just short of 3,000 people, due to licensing restrictions, not popularity, but The Evolution Experience has a subscribed membership of 7,000 people who regularly attend different events. Surely, this is enough to meet Wikipedia criteria.... if not... please let us know from EVONEWS

[edit] Listen Good

Listen Good you monkey, Garret Morgan did create the 1st traffic light and I don't care what you say about it!!!! It is no myth about him doing it. He is a hero to all the street everywhere. And I was reading you r page and you said that someone must slay family, friends, and some other stuff to secced on wikipedia. That is pure bull! It makes me sad to see this. Well thats all i have to say! Have a nice and wonderful day;) 19:24, 22 February 2006 LittleLadySmartAss

Hi LittleLady. I've never edited the Garrett A. Morgan article. Are you sure you have the right person? Monkeyman^(talk) 02:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bobot Adrenaline

Hi There! In case you are not watching the deletion talk page, I added this:

• COMMENT-The band's discography from inception until present are mostly releases which also contain their own articles on Wiki and have been deemded as being notable (some had BEEN proposed for deletion but kept by administrators as notable). The band was featured on the most recent Tony Hawk video game as listed on the Wiki article for said game, and the new and not yet released album was produced by the current Guns N Roses bassist. The band might not meet the criteria of mainstream music award winnings or billboard charts, but I do believe these things make it very notable. Madangry 01:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Madangry. Honestly, I really did want to keep the article but it just didn't meet the WP:MUSIC. I read over the site and researched them on google to see if they met some criteria but it just wasn't there to me. Please check out the 'Musicians and ensembles' section in WP:MUSIC, if you can add something to the article that meets one of these criteria I would gladly change my vote to 'keep'. Monkeyman^(talk) 02:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks!! Madangry 02:02, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
• COMMENT - Wikipedia should not place "mainstream = notability" constraints on independent music. (Paraphrased from Japanther delete page comments by Howrealisreal) Madangry 22:34, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree. You might want to join the WP:MUSIC policy team and offer advice on inclusion criteria for indie bands. Monkeyman^(talk) 01:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

• • Wow, that is a great idea...alas, I started here in December 2005 and have no idea HOW I might request to join the WP:MUSIC policy team and once there how I could offer advice on inclusion criteria for indie bands/labels/releases.... Madangry 01:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I left a message on the discussion page though! =) Madangry 02:54, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link to ReturnonAffiliate.com under "affiliate marketing"

Sir, The link placed for ReturnonAffiliate.com under "affiliate marketing" is no more of a commercial link then the other two there "abestweb.com" and "associatesprograms.com". If anything ReturnonAffiliate.com offers more content through blogs and social networking then the other two do. Associatesprograms.com is purely commercial with the goal of selling a product called "sitesell" and other such money making schemes. Currently ReturnonAffiliate.com has no ads and is purely an information site. I would appriciate a reply to this message and feel that it is an appropiate external link. Thank you. Richard A. Lewis Founder ReturnonAffiliate.com (Returnonaffiliate) P.S. I would also like permission to create topics on other affiliate sites that are left off or often deleted that pertain to the affiliate marketing industry and are of great interest to ecommerce professionals.

The external link you recently added to Affiliate marketing is not working. I can't determine if this is a valid link if I can't see it. If the site is not up soon I will have to remove it by default. Sorry. Monkeyman^(talk) 15:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Perfecto. The link you added to Affiliate marketing was an advertisement for your company. I'm sorry but we cannot accept links like these. Please try to view this policy from wikipedia's viewpoint. If we allowed every link to any article, wikipedia would soon become a vehicle for advertising and would no longer be an encyclopedia. If you like, you can discuss your viewpoint on Talk:Affiliate_marketing. Monkeyman^(talk) 15:50, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Well I will go ahead and remove all other commercial links as well under "affiliate marketing" then. The policy should apply equally to all forum sites. Since my site actually has no ads it is unfair to allow commercial sites on this listing and not mine. Thank you.Richard A. Lewis FounderReturnonAffiliate.com

[edit] Argox

Check the note I left on Talk:Argox, and if you know an admin, ask them to look at this. I don't want to provide fodder for future disputes. Thank you. We may disagree, but we can still work together. Jehochman 14:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Swiftcover

You're not supposed to reprod articles. As the banner says, removing the notice is the correct way of objecting to deletion (of course, the person should provide an edit summary, but they don't have to). If someone objects, the deletion is controversial. Prod is specifically for uncontroversial deletions. See Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion#What_this_process_is_NOT_for.

When you still want to delete something that's been deprodded, you just move it to AfD, which is what I'm doing for you. NickelShoe 19:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

You're right of course. But the user who created the article was brand new and he didn't leave an edit summary so I thought I'd give him another chance. I left a nice message on his talk page explaining that the article must meet WP:CORP. Monkeyman^(talk) 19:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism on Kosovo page

Please I hope you can help me! I have used wikipedia for almost a year but fixed a "membership" last month to better keep up with my contributions. Most of the pages work fine but the Kosovo page work really bad. It's no where close to NVOP. If you want to know I'm defently not some pro-serb patriot nor even from Balkan (acctually Sweden). But history is my biggest interest and I hope I've made alot of good contributions in this site. I hope anyway that you could look on the Kosovo page or please tell me where can I report vandalism? Thanks anyway// Litany 16:09, 24 February 2006 Litany

Hi Litany. The procedure for dealing with vandalism can be found here: Wikipedia:Vandalism#Dealing_with_vandalism. It's very well outlined and simple to follow. Monkeyman^(talk) 21:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terry Nichols

Did he like guns? shit yeah. Did he like taxes? Hell no. Did he hate collectivism? Damn straight. Would he argue that it was the right of a property owner to plant land mines on his front lawn in a urban neightborhood if he wanted to? Yes. Ergo he was a libertarian. 132.241.245.49 03:25, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

If you can support, with references, Nichols position on all of these issues I would certainly agree with you. Monkeyman^(talk) 03:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Not all Libertarians are part of the Party. 132.241.245.49 03:34, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandels

How can one IP address be shared by 100's of users. How can they mess up the main page. And how do you guys fix it?? user name: Kelly384673

(comment was added by 207.200.116.137) Hbackman 08:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

A single IP is shared by many users the same way a telephone number is shared by many people in a household. Vandalism is fixed by reverting (see Wikipedia:Vandalism). Welcome to Wikipedia! Monkeyman^(talk) 17:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] yr edit

Hi, I'm new to this and wonder if you could quickly explain something - your recent edit on the depression page says 'rv to Franzio. Book promotion'. I see that you have deleted someone elses insert of a book reference. But why does it say rv to Franzio (me)? Many thanks. Franzio

It means I reverted back to your version. Putting a username in the edit summary lets other editors know how far back the revert went. That's all.  :) Monkeyman^(talk) 17:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining :) Franzio 19:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Priština

The page has been reverted back to the Albanian version again!

Phildav76 12:43, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use subst: for templates in the user_talk namespace

I noticed you're not using subst for you vandalism warnings, so here's a friendly message from the subst information office :)

Obli (Talk)^? 14:38, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blanking pages

I don't recall blanking any pages. When did this happen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.167.25 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Why you delete it?

That election IS oft argued to be fixed. Thta is fact, so it shouldn't of been deleted. 16:11, 26 February 2006 TheCaddyMan

Sometimes vandals with the same IP address as you do it. Something to do with AOL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.200.116.137 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Hey

How do I get people to stop vandalizing the Jaffa orange article. 16:10, 27 February 2006 69.160.17.133

You should probably start by signing up for an account. Not too many people take anon users seriously. Second, try to find some sources that back up your claim. If you source it, it is less likely to be removed. Monkeyman^(talk) 21:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] National_Association_of_Realtors

Hi Larrybroker. Thanks for your additions to the Guild article. This information might be better suited in a section titled "Criticism" in National_Association_of_Realtors (which you can create within the article). Since it is a bit controversial, you should probably discuss your intentions on the Talk:National_Association_of_Realtors before making your additions. We have many articles with a criticism section but they should stick to the facts and adhere to WP:POV. Welcome aboard.  :) Monkeyman^(talk) 20:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I'm not certain how this message system works, so please let me know if you receive this. Can you please email a link to the "criticism" page you refer to? I can't find it. In response to your message, i went back and reduced the description of guild behavior to the essentials. I think there is only fact described and no point of view. Please make a specific suggestion if you disagree. The facts stated have been confirmed by independent GAO report and various other credible parties. Perhaps you could ask an economist familiar with the industry to take a look and revise? I concur that the encylopedia should rigorously monitor this sort of content for accuracy and opinion. But, whitewash is equally problematic. 10:04, 27 February 2006 Larrybroker

Hi Larry. Yes, I got your message. You yourself can create a "Criticism" section within the article by editing it. As long as it is NPOV and referenced I think you'll be fine with the additions. Also, you can sign your messages by typing ~~~~ at the end of your comments. Wikipedia will turn those four tildes into your signature and timestamp it. Monkeyman^(talk) 22:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spam, spam, spam, eggs and spam

Judging from your talk page, you seem rather successful at fighting spam, do you just patrol recent changes or is there a trade secret involved? Please share :) Obli (Talk)^? 00:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Affiliate-Software-Review.com more commercial?

Why is affiliate-software-review.com seen as more commercial than a few forums that contain affiliate links? It has no ads and is a unique comparison engine to help merchants compare affiliate software platforms. 85% of the people that edit pages support respecting inclusion of this site. You are in the other 15% - please defend your reasoning. Peterkoning 04:00, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Peter, Affiliate-software-review is a commercial site. You are selling a service: "To order e-business coaching (US $140/hour) right now simply click on the Paypal "Add to Cart" button ". Your site requires registration to view the comparison data. You send out spam, "Another goal of affiliate-software-review.com is to provide you, the user, with a customized experience on our network of sites." Wikipedia is not an conduit for advertising. The spam problem here at Wikipedia is insane, we have tons of people trying to include their sites as external links into articles every minute. You are probably better off paying google or yahoo to advertise your site for you. Monkeyman^(talk) 13:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Monkeyman, this is a request to retract your comment re "you send out spam". As I mentioned elsewhere [Affiliate-Software-Review.com] is a professional merchant resource site that uses Aweber which is a double-opt in email management system. Saying someone sends out spam when you have not researched the process is false and damaging. It also lowers the perception people have of your other edits and comments, some of which I feel are excellent work.Peterkoning 17:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Advertising

Apologies for that ... just trying to provide a link. 14:46, 28 February 2006 John.Oakley

[edit] Ringtones and LinkSpam

Hi! I semi-reverted your linkspam removal edit to the ringtones article. There was a definitely linkspam item there that you removed that I kept deleted. You accidentally broke a link to the Ringtones & the Music Industry and I fixed that. I did restore the two links that link directly to ringtone MP3 files. They are legit and not linkspam. They are, in fact, quite useful, I think! Thanks! See you around! --AStanhope 20:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I had to remove the following two links from Ring tone:

• forty fivemovie.com/mp3/lamisc/ringtones/phone_ring_2x.mp3
• fortyfivemo vie.com/mp3/lamisc/ringtones/euroring.mp3

These should not be included in the external links section. Please see WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_mirror_or_a_repository_of_links.2C_images.2C_or_media_files. Monkeyman^(talk) 20:25, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry - these are totally non-commercial and totally useful. This isn't a simple repository or mirror... They are links to something that can actually be used. I am restoring them. --AStanhope 20:37, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Moved to Talk:Ring_tone

[edit] Affiliate marketing

Hi Monkeyman, I have suggested on the article's talk page that we have a link to a directory - I'd welcome your support in this. Barrylb 07:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HYIP

Thanks for the good work with the article; I'm glad we got to the wording that we did, and I can go and work on other articles. John Broughton 21:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Jackson nicknames

Yes, I'd be more than happy to accept that sort of compromise. Just keep in mind that the same sort of battle will ensue there as well. --Mhking 02:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WTF...

Leave Me The Hell Alone. I'm Merely Visting This Page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.126.63.21 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Commercial links

Hi Monkeyman - thanks for your email. The links I have put in are not commercial links. They are links to reports that are free. The reports that we publish are on different sectors of financial services and they represent a overview of a particular sector in the UK and internationally. We have reports on all sectors of financial services (they can all be downloaded FREE OF CHARGE from www.ifsl.org.uk). Hope this is ok.

Regards, Marko

Hi Marko. It looks like you're randomly adding these links to many articles. When we see this kind of behavior at Wikipedia it is interpreted as someone is trying to drive traffic to their website. Please review your intentions. Is it to improve articles or is it to drive your business? Monkeyman^(talk) 14:19, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Monkeyman - IFSL is a promotional organisation based in London. We do not earn money by selling anything - our membership of the largest financial services companies in London funds us. Our goal is to inform and educate. Have a look at one of our reports - they are all listed in www.ifsl.org.uk/research/index.html - these reports are free and their goal is to educate and inform on financial services (globally and in the UK).

As the reports are on different financial sectors (banking, insurance, private equity, etc...) I have made sure that I posted the links in the external links section on the appropriate pages (apart from the Hedge Fund report which I thought added more than the link that was posted there). Appologies if I have made an error somewhere. I do not think you will find many free sources of information readily available on the internet (apart from your website) so I think we are unique in that respect.

Our goal is to educate and distribute our reports as widely as possible. You will see on our website that we do not charge for anything so we have nothing to gain by increased traffic to our website.

Cheers, Marko

[edit] Deleting advertisements

Thanks for your work on new page patrol. Please be careful to only tag pages for speedy deletion if they meet the criteria at this page. Note especially that advertising is not a speedy deletion criterion. A relatively new process, proposed deletion, is the halfway-point between speedy deletions and the lengthy AFD discussion process. A page tagged with {{prod}} will be deleted in five days unless someone contests the deletion by removing the tag. This would be a good way to deal with ads in the future - just tag them {{prod|advertisement}}. (ESkog)^(Talk) 16:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] wtf

wtf who are you

[edit] Dear Monkeyman

Dear Monkeyman, I didnt mean to spam but hope linking might inform readers and also help others to learn stuff. I have made the only online self help video which can really help others and they are free. I hope this fits in with the Wikipedia's great plan Yours Andrew —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.148.128 (talk • contribs) 12:08, 4 March 2006 86.134.148.128

[edit] Marit Larsen

Why was the new link taken out and the broken link reinstated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.84.217.222 (talk • contribs)

The maritlarsen.com link was changed to marit.4t.com by user 128.84.60.161. See here. This is commonly done by site owners to promote their site over a competitor's site. Monkeyman^(talk) 20:02, 4 March 2006 (UTC)