Template talk:Mongol Yastan

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[edit] Are they yastan?

The subdivisions of Hazara, Aimek and Mughal: Are those subdivisions yastan or clans or tribes? Is their a difference between the terms "yastan" and "tribe"? Gantuya eng (talk) 11:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

For Moghul, it is clan and for the other 2 it is tribe. I nonincluded them in display, since I got no sufficient information. There's no difference between "yastan" and "tribe". But according to classification by B.Renchin on Mongolia's yastan, he, i guess, didn't rely on the Northern Yuan tribes or tümen, by including Kazakh and Tsaatan. Dagvadorj (talk) 15:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

But Khalha is also a yastan, but it would be too far pitched to call it a "tribe". There's lots of confusion between the terms "ugsaatan", "undesten", "yastan", "aimag", "omog", "obog", "yas", "elken"... Gantuya eng (talk) 15:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Are the Barlas Mughal related to Tamerlane? Gantuya eng (talk) 15:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] not tribes

I really can't agree with the term "tribes" at least in this template. Such groups like Khalha, Buryat, Kazakh can't be called "tribes" although they are yastan. So let's use the term "ethnic group" instead. Gantuya eng (talk) 09:01, 18 December 2007 (UTC)