Talk:Monty Python's The Meaning of Life

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Contents 1 Is that even a reference? 2 Find the Fish 3 The DVD 4 Rename? 5 Reversions 6th of February 6 missing citation on DVD commentary track

[edit] Is that even a reference?

What the hell does this have to do with The Meaning of Life?

"In the movie Finding Nemo a stingray teacher swims towards his class, covers them all beneath his wings and then says 'I wonder where my class is gone'."

- TorbenFrost 12:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

A line from 'Meaning of Life' is "I wonder where that fish has gone.". If it is a reference, it is a very tenuous one.

67.97.80.5 17:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Find the Fish

Hm, the 'Find the Fish' sketch reminded me of Andy Warhol... whether this had any influence I don't know, but maybe someone could add to this? Misuto 09:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

hey does anyone have any idea what that sketch is really about...? there are lots of fairly hardcore philosophical references in this film (the vomit scene is possibly a spoof of Sartre's Nausea), I think I once saw an argument that find-the-fish is making some comment about subjectivity and experience: the scene is shot througha fish-eye lens, and is being watched by the fish in the tank -- possibly suggesting that the fish is in fact the /viewer/ rather than anything /in/ the scene... which is pretty deep... kind of like Nagels "the view from Nowhere" perhaps? The subject cannot direct intensionality towards himself, rather his perception /is/ the scene... is that a reference to something? Or were they just all on drugs and we are tryign to read into it... ?

You think too much. Comradeash 05:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

No such thing

How did they get the hands on the ends of the long-arms to wiggle like that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 06:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The DVD

Are there any surprises on the DVD for Monty Python's The Meaning of Life like Monty Python and the Holy Grail? --68.37.116.234 20:07, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

What I mean by surprises on the DVD is are there any surprises like on The Holy Grail when "Play Movie" is first played and the first one minute, 47 sec. of Dentist on the Job, then the projector operator (Terry Jones) "changes the reels" and Holy Grail starts. Are there any surprises like that on the MEANING OF LIFE DVD? -Thank you very much! 15:06, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Not to my recollection. Eclipsed Moon 22:35, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rename?

Following from Monty Python's Life of Brian and Monty Python and the Holy Grail, should we rename this article Monty Python's The Meaning of Life? —anskas 23:55, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

IMDb refers to it as The Meaning of Life. That would be the justification for leaving it as is. However, IMDb also refers to Life of Brian as Monty Pythons... What do other sources refer to it as? --Dylan Lake 00:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

In my experience, IMDB is not the most reliable source. I will look for other sources to see how they treat these films. —anskas 16:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I should have left this note last night. The opening credits of the film, the VHS and DVD releases, the poster and all other ancillary material call this film "Monty Python's The Meaning of Life" so I have moved the page to match this fact. You are right Anskas the info at IMDb, in spite of all that it does for those of us who like films, is not totally reliable.MarnetteD | Talk 13:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Now that the page has been moved, shouldn't these two lines be removed and placed on the old page?

• This page is about the Monty Python film; for the philosophical concept, see the Meaning of life (philosophy).
• For the song by The Offspring, The Meaning of Life (Offspring song).

I'd do it myself, but my Wikipedia skills aren't up to the task.--RenniePet 09:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello RenniePet. The answer to your question is that the old page no longer exists. Using the move command moves all the items, including the history and this talk page, of that page to this new one. Actually, there is one thing left on the old page and that is a redirect command. Anyone typing the name of the old page into the search line is autmatically taken to this one. I also took the time to fix all of the redirects that occur on other pages that moving this page entailed. Now most people who move pages skip this step, sometimes because they miss the instruction to do it (the page that comes up after a move mentions it but doesn't make completely clear which link you need to click on to find all of the pages that link to this one) and, more often, because they are lazy. It took about three hours to fix all of the redirects because it was incredible how many pages, some of them having nothing to do with films!, were linked to this one. Amazingly the page for "The Offspring"s Discography (not the specific song but the page for all of their albums) on the line mentioning their song linked to this films page. Who knows how long that bad link existed. Because the lines you mentioned can't be moved to the old page the could just be deleted from this page but I should say that I am not perfect and I might have missed fixing some of the redirects so I would be inclined to leave them at the top of the page for awhile at least. I would think that if we leave them for a few weeks it just might be a help to any editors who wind up on this page when they were looking for something else. Thanks for your question and if you have any others please feel free to ask either here or on my talk page. MarnetteD | Talk 13:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the long answer. Actually, I'm not thinking so much about existing links, I'm thinking about people who come to Wikipedia and search for "the meaning of life". They get a page that only contains a re-direct to this page (which is fine if that's what they were looking for), but doesn't offer them the other two possibilities right off the bat. --RenniePet 14:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

There's another page, Meaning of life (without "(Philosophy)") that is even more relevant to have as a possible link on the old The Meaning of Life page. --RenniePet 14:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Well I tried adding it to the redirect page based on your desires and I am afraid that it messed that page up a little. I think that it will be okay as the redirect still exists, but if it isn't I am sure that I will hear from an admin. It was only one more click to get to this page, but I think that we should leave them here as well as on the readirect page to assist readers in the future. MarnetteD | Talk 14:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reversions 6th of February

When I viewed the page at about 23:00 CET, a two day old vandalised version showed up. This caused me to revert a perfectly fine version by mistake. I have since reverted it back to the version before my reversion. Sorry about that. 85.167.90.31 22:31, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] missing citation on DVD commentary track

The missing citation from the quote below could be referenced from the commentary track of the DVD (Studio: Universal Studios Home Entertainment, Release Date: 2005-08-23, ASIN: B000A2UBNE, UPC: 025192894329). Terry Jones and Terry Gilliam discuss the origin of the short at length several times through the film and nothing in the quote is contradicted.

"The Crimson Permanent Assurance, a short introductory film directed by Terry Gilliam. In a satire on globalization, elderly office clerks rebel against their cold, efficient corporate masters at 'The Permanent Assurance Company', commandeer their building and turn it into a pirate ship, raiding financial districts in numerous big cities before falling off the edge of the world. Originally conceived by Gilliam as a 6-minute animated sequence in the middle of the film (at the end of Part V), it was later expanded to a 16-minute live-action piece, to the point where it no longer fit into the framework of the film and became a pre-movie short film in its own right.[citation needed]"

Hope that helps. Please feel free to contact me about proper posting etiquette if I'm out of line. Freesharon 20:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)