Talk:Montpelier, Vermont

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Montpelier does not qualify as a metropolitan area according to the US Census.

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[edit] McDonalds

An irrelevant fact: Apparently Vermont is the only state capital in the U.S.A not to have a Mcdonalds. - Canderra 23:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't think this is irrelevant. It is true for a fact, there is no McDonbalds in the Montpelier city limits, and it makes this State Capital rather unique. nfretwurst 16:09, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant the fact is irrelevant in a humorous sort of way, I discovered read the fact in a book somewhere (think it was Micheal Moore's "Idiot Nation" if someone wishes to collaborate factuality) but am not sure if it deserves a mention in the article or not. - Canderra 13:32, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

-It's relevent, some quick research shows that Montpelier strives for less corporate and more local businesses. The entirity of Vermont doesn't allow billboards, either. I'm curious what other businesses are affected by this, but I don't have time to look into it. 66.119.27.235 21:28, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Please get off the "Montpelier does not have a..." kick. Not having something is not what Wikipedia is all about. It doesn't have a subway system either, or an international airport, or is served by Amtrak. Or dogsled. Or whatever. The article is about what Montpelier has not doesn't have. If you are "proud" of something and want to throw it in somebody's face, please schedule your own soapbox or web page. This isn't it! Student7 19:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

It isn't soapboxing - The important thing is that local residents protested against it and got it blocked - not so much that there isnt a McD's. To use your example if residents had protested and blocked a subway it would be relevant too. I reinstated the text Mickmaguire 04:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

The article is NOT about social activism. You know how some people try to turn every conversation into one about themselves. That's the situation here. The article is about what Montpelier, a tiny town, has compared to other locations. It isn't about social activism per se. There may some article or articles about that. Anytime you think you can hit somebody in the eye with a "so there, bad guys," please omit it. It doesn not belong in the article! Trust me. I've just been throw a three month argument with someone that went to meditation on this sort of thing. It was a pain. Slapping somebody in the face is more easily done on the street or though your own tabloid media. Forget Wikipedia as an outlet to put someone or something down, to feel morally superior to someone or to express spiritual pride.Student7 01:45, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi. The fact that Montpelier officially doesn't have McDonalds means nothing. Drive 7 miles down the road and you can find one in Barre. Or a Burger King. The nearest Walmart is even closer. I'm sure local residents do this. It's a dubious distinction that would fit nicely into a trivia section, which is highly discouraged as per WP:TRIVIA.
I thought the allure of a place like rural Vermont was its contentness with being quiet and non-notable.--Loodog 04:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I still disagree. The place is largely defined by the people, so therefore an article about the place it tells you something real about the people of the town, something about Montpelier. It also helps illustrate why the town is the way it is in a slightly more intagible way. However, I won't reinstate the text as you seem so strongly opposed to it, and actually I don't care much about this article. Others can decide. Mickmaguire 18:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James Madison's Montpelier

Did the naming of Montpelier have anything to do with James Madison's estate? I do not believe there is a link. But some free associated possibilities:

James Madison refers to his home as Montpelier in a 1799 document, before the Montpelier, Vermont used the name. What were his sources? Jefferson, an ardent Francophile, had aided Madison in the design and expansion of his home Montpelier. The house was originally called Mount Pleasant. With the revolution and France's financial and military support, things French became very fashionable. General Knox, first US Secretary of War also named his home Montpelier. That house was designed by Charles Bulfinch and is located in Thomaston, Maine. In Vermont's capital city, the source of the name is unclear. Montpelier had once been called Davisville after Jacob Davis, an early settler. Esther Monroe Swift in her book Vermont Placenames Footprints in History suggests the name Montpelier was chosen for its resonance with Vermont.Nearby Calais also sports a French city name, as do Orleans and Vergennes, Vermont. French infatuation seemed to reach its zenith in James Monroe's administration. - CApitol3 (talk) 23:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology and name

If the city is named after Montpellier, why does it only have one L, and why is it pronounced differently? I'm sorry, but pel-ee-ar sounds like a limp penis compared to pel-ee-ay.

-Jackmont


[edit] Montpelier and Calais, Vermont

If one remembers correctly, Vermont was settled by the French before the British colonists settled there. It should follow that there are a couple towns in the state with French names. Montpelier and Calais are spelled like the French towns, but they have been heavily anglicized over the years. Locals really do call Montpelier "Mont-peel-iar" and Calais "Cal-lis", not the French pronunciations.

Twitchel 18:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)Twitchel