Talk:Montgomery County, Pennsylvania
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Hi, I cleaned it up a little bit, but a couple of comments out there are unsubstantiated. I hope someone can help clean up the culture section a bit. I'll be working to try and expand some of the data, but hopefully I can get a hand.Montco 01:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Huntingdon Valley
There's no article yet for Huntingdon Valley, and I'd like to create at least a stub for it in the near future. Once I do that, I'd like to insert this place into the Communities and Census-Designated Places section of this entry. Does a community have to be a census-designated place (CDP) in order to be there? And if so, is there a way I can find out if Huntingdon Valley is such a place? Would Huntingdon Valley have had an entry already if it were a CDP?
While it could be argued that a lot of what can be said is already covered in the Lower Moreland and Bethayres entries, Huntingdon Valley covers more that just these places. Five townships - Abington, Lower Moreland, Lower Southampton, Upper Moreland, Upper Southampton - in two different counties - Bucks and Montgomery - constitute the area known as Huntingdon Valley. Huntingdon Valley is situated so close to two Montgomery County boroughs - Bryn Athyn and Rockledge - and the farthest northeastern part of the city and county of Philadelphia that sometimes the boundaries of these blur.
In fact, while Bethayres does have an entry, albeit a stub, it had not been listed in this section, so I went ahead and added it. Please feel free to revert it if it doesn't qualify as a CDP or other criteria. RSLitman 02:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. CDPs are defined by the U.S. Census Bureau, but other unincorporated communities are also listed with CDPs in PA county articles. My guess is that whoever made the Bethayres article did not think or know to put it in the section. Communities in two counties are listed in both. Ruhrfisch 02:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
It occurred to me after I posted this that any Huntingdon Valley entry should also go into any Bucks County lists that exist, even though the proportion of Huntingdon Valley that's in Montgomery County is a lot larger than that which is in Bucks County. I ought to see if any other Post Office designations that cover both counties, but cover one county a lot more than the other, appear in both counties. I know that while the borough of Hatboro is totally within Montgomery County, the Post Office designation of Hatboro extends somewhat into neighboring townships, including at least one, Warminster Township, that is in Bucks County. (The now-closed "Hatboro" office of the state/commonwealth government agency that handles unemployement compensations claims was actually located in Warminster Township.) RSLitman 19:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Name "Montco"
As a "life-long Montgomery County resident" (20 years and 5 days in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, the remaining time in Montgomery County, Maryland), I've never cared for the abbreviation of "Montco". While it (and similar local county abbreviations such as Chesco, Burlco, and Delco) may do fine as an abbreviation in headlines in the Philadelphia Inquirer and other newspapers, I question its appropriateness in a serious document like this one is supposed to be. RSLitman 19:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- When I hear "MontCo" I think of the Community College, not the County. Passdoubt | Talk 02:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think it is worth mentioning as an abbreviation for these two things, but agree it should not be used in the article and that it does not seem properly encyclopedic. Are there any official examples (for example Southern Lancaster County has the Solanco School District?). Ruhrfisch 02:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I went to the Chester County, Delaware County, and Burlington County (New Jersey) entries to see if the above-mentioned abbreviations appeared on their pages. The Burlington County page didn't contain "Burlco" at all. On the Chester County page, the only hit I got came about as a result of "chesco" being embedded in the county's official web site's URL, just as "montco" is embedded in Montgomery County's official web site's URL. On the Delaware County page, I got two "Delco" hits because the various school districts in the county are listed there, and two of them - Penn-Delco School District and Southeast Delco School District - contain "Delco" in their names. I visited the the official district web page for Penn-Delco (the one for Southeast Delco appeared to be down, perhaps because of the holiday weekend), and it appears that the use of "Delco" in the district's name is official, not just a convenient abbreviation of "Delaware County" by whoever wrote this portion of the county's Wikipedia entry. RSLitman 19:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
