Talk:Montclair, New Jersey

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is it really appropriate to have a "character" section? Perhaps the text there could be reworked into the intro or other areas.

"none of it is covered by water"

I've been in Montclair several times, even lived there for a while, and I distinctly remember a large lake or reservoir next to one of the major north-south roads - might have been Grove. OTOH maybe it's technically in Upper Montclair...

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[edit] Montclair Bodies of Water

I think you're thinking about the reservoir on the other side of the Mills Reservation? Maybe???

Thats in Cedar Grove I think...

Roodog2k 19:59, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

--- On bodies of water: Edgemont Memorial Park along Valley Rd at Parkway (near Watchung Ave) has a large pond, fed by local streams. I've fished there and skated on the ice in the winter. See http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=montclair,+nj&ll=40.829999,-74.212282&spn=0.009255,0.022659&t=h&om=1 - j, May 10 2006

[edit] cdp or township?

the article is about the township but the demographics say they're about the cdp. is this a mistake? is there a montclair cdp w/in the township? 204.52.215.127 00:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

  • There are many townships statewide that the United States Census Bureau breaks down into one or more census-designated places. In some cases where there is one, and only one, CDP, the CDP and the Township overlap. Depending on how the original article was created by the bot, most refer to statistics for the township, but some refer to the stats for the equivalent CDP. In the past, some of these Township/CDP pairs were shown as "Place X is a township and census-designated place". After realizing that this added nothing to the articles, overlapping pairs were treated only as a township, and any references to its status as CDP were removed. It seems that Montclair is in this boat. Any references to "CDP" should be changed to "township", without any issue. Just to assure you, check the Census Bureau data for Montclair, New jersey, and compare the township and CDP. Other than the presence of a 2005 estimate for the township, the data is identical. Alansohn 01:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Bradley in Verona

Bill Bradley used to live in Montclair, but moved to Verona in 2005. I have updated the articles for the two pages, and provided sources for the change.

Ernestine Bradley finds 'home' amid husband's career Lifelong journey By Lorraine Ash, Daily Record Famed, all

  • Note that other than noting current and former residency, there is no reason to remove Bradley from the Montclair article. Alansohn 06:04, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UPPER Montclair

How come there is no article for Upper Montclair, NJ? The zip code is different [07043] and so is the income ( i checked on city-data). I just don't understand why there isn't an article for it.

  • Articles have been created for all municipalities and census designated places in New Jersey. The Census Bureau does track data for many ZIP codes, and Upper Montclair is one of them. I will whip up an article for your enjoyment. Alansohn 20:04, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Honestly, I don't know how I feel about a separate article for Upper Montclair. It is not its own municipality -- it is simply the name given to a certain neighborhood within the Township of Montclair. Newark has tens of ZIP Codes, but each ZIP code does not automatically get its own wikipedia entry. How is an article for Upper Montclair notable enough to survive an AfD? JasonCNJ 18:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm not even sure that I agree with the premise of your concerns (see List of neighborhoods in Newark, New Jersey for links to almost 20 neighborhood articles for Newark), but let me explain my thought process, anyway. I'd been thinking of doing it for a while, but never got around to it. This is not just an article for a ZIP code; it's an article for a well-defined portion of Montclair that was already referenced in more than a dozen articles. Given that there seems to be a broad consensus that places are inherently notable, I haven't seen to many such AfDs, but I would be more than confident that there is more than enough material to expand this to meet any and all standards of notability. I wouldn't have created the article if I did not thing that it could meet that standard. Alansohn 19:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
As a MSC grad I always knew that Upper Montclair was part of Montclair but somehow was still a different place. However Montclair State University no longer lists their address as Upper Montclair, NJ as they had done since 1908. Why did they change? Must be a reason! User:Thomaskorp