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[edit] Monsters Of Flop

could someone with more expereance please re-phrase the first four paragraph's of this article- i think it should be re-phrased to - monsters of rock saying how it's a british festival that was branched to other countrys, who cureently owns it why it, is no longer held at donnington has the downloadd festival taken over? is it just a replacement for a new era of rock music, has the monsters of rock - name been relegated is it still the amazing festival it once was. what confuses me is both download and monsters are very similar was there any need to split it into 2 festivals, there both produced by live nation is this just a ploy to grab more cash? 16:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)17:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


That's a bit of a tidyup, but there's still quite a lot to do, including getting the lineups sorted out. The Download festival website has a list at http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/festival_history/history_of_lineup.asp. --mh. 21:51, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tidy of line-ups

Did a big tidy of the line-ups (of the UK festivals anyway) so they all in a similar format and include the dates. Also did a few minor edits and added a link to a report on the 1988 incident when two fans died.

I think this section (from 1986 line-up) isn't very neutral and could do with an overhaul:

"The main event belonged to German-rockers Scorpions, who were still riding on the tail of their successful 1985 World Wide Live Tour (promoting their 1984 album Love at First Sting) during the heigh of the Hard Rock/Heavy Metal rock style. That was the era referred as "innocent yet skillful" hard rock, where live performances used to rule over studio over-producing. Scorpions delivered an enchanting 14-song set list that cemented the teutonic band's status as Rock and Roll hall of fame-bound. This is considered by critics and fans as the most successful Monsters of Rock tour ever. The Bad News set was filmed for the "More Bad News" episode of the Comic Strip Presents. Many fans thought this was a waste of a slot, as Bad News were a 'joke' band made up of Comic Strip actors. Motörhead's set was interupted mid way through when someone threw a firecracker on stage."


OAP boba 15:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the report link, i wonder if axl will do a tribute at this years dl fest on the same location, Jamie-planetx 16:09, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Netherlands/Willem II stadium

Fixed the typo and thus the link, however the article linked to (stub) suggests that the current stadium was built in 1995, while the concert was in 1988. Presumably this was at the old stadium?

[edit] Pantera '91

Pantera weren't there in 1991. I was there and the memory's a bit fuzzy, but I'd have remembered. I still have the T-shirt and they're not on it. Bretonbanquet 22:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I was also there and don't remember Pantera.

This google video shows almost the entire show, including Pantera's set. Its from the '91 concert, since the other bands are the correct lineup. I think they were there...

  • That video shows the Moscow show, NOT the Donington show. Pantera were NOT at Donington that year. I have removed them from the lineup AGAIN.Fork me (talk) 17:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

They weren't there - no way. I can't hit the video link either.

I have this whole video i downloaded with pantera, acdc, metallica, and some other band i think all playing in the soviet union/russia just as the whole damn country was falling apart. like metallica even talk with some people about all the violence going on. whats the deal with that?

Pantera and Living Color were NOT at Donington in 1991, Im was there as well, have the T-shirt and have now found a link to the poster! Queensryche, however, were there. Living Color and Pantera DID play at other Monsters of Rock festivals that year, but not Donington. I have corrected the line-up and linked to the site. Fork me (talk) 12:02, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

GERMANY 86 MONSTERS OF ROCK-----

german monsters of rock?1986 ,deep purple headlined,metallica were also there.i motorcyled through europe just 2 see metallica.2 gigs at pzorheim and nurnberg.

[edit] Monsters of Rock 2000/2002

http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/archive/ Claims shows occurred in both years.

Monsters of Rock 2000 - Kiss, Ozzy Osbourne, Sepultura, Biohazard, Dog Eat Dog, Paradise Lost, Fear Factory Second stage: Korn, Type O Negative, Everclear, 3 Colours Red, Honeycrack, Cecil

Monsters of Rock 2002 - Stereophonics, The Black Crowes, The Crocketts, Proud Mary

The 2002 show looks like the lineup for Stereophonics' 2001 show, but 2000??

(The Elfoid 19:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Issues regarding the Monsters of Rock entry

I saw that this entry was flagged for review on the basis of verification, and I wanted to contribute some first-hand knowledge regarding music industry practices and my own experiences with MOR.

I work in the concert production industry and was on the 1990-1991 AC/DC World Tour as the assistant/merchandising accountant. The Summer 1991 European (and second-to-last, before finishing in Australia) leg of that tour featured a run of shows with AC/DC, Metallica, Motley Crue, Queensryche and the Black Crows, in various combinations. I think that Tesla may have also played one or two of these dates as well. I'm faily certain that Pantera wasn't on any of these shows, though it's possible that they were on the Russia date (see below) Many or most of these dozen or so shows were called "Monsters of Rock," or similar monikers, and the tour as a whole was usually billed as the "Monsters of Rock Tour", but in reality, most shows were produced by local promoters, and the tour was produced by AC/DC's staff. The shows in Modena, Italy; Chorzow, Poland; and Mainz, Germany are listed in the entry, but many other shows are missing. I know that we did shows in at least France (near Paris), Spain (near Barcelona), Austria (Graz?), and Berlin. I think that we also did shows in Scotland (Glasgow?), Denmark, Hungary, and at least one other Eastern European country, but it was quite a few years, and my memory isn't what it used to be.

Donington was scheduled to be the last show of the leg, but near the end of the run an opportunity for most of the bands to play a free show Moscow, Russia (the USSR had just broken up) for some 500,00 people, and at least AC/DC & Metallica accepted. I was given the option to go, but declined, since I had things scheduled for the break, but heard about it from the remainder of the crew on the following leg. I believe this festival was also called "Monsters of Rock."

Although I was at settlement of our show in Donington, I don't remember the exact attendence. I remember thinking it was more than 75,000 before I looked up this entry (I'm doing reserch for an unrelated project) but on reflection, this is probably an accurate number. I am sure that it was largest show on the whole 13 month tour (except Russia), knowledge earned after a very long day walking the whole venue several times.

I don't remember any specific issues that would have impacted the show from out front, which to my recollection, ran smoothly and energetically (final shows of legs tend to be very spirited). The band did bring in 21 large cannons just for this show, used in the finale of "For Those About to Rock,", and the set design was more elaborate than other shows on the leg. Most of the crew was engaged with making the rapidly up-coming Moscow show happen, which had been forced to come together very quickly. If I'm not mistaken, the whole tour was flown in on 2 large Russian military aircraft , including trucks, tour buses, and large sections of the stage taken intact from the site and then placed on the Russia site. It was a very strenuous undertaking, so much so that it claimed the life of our site co-ordinator of the Moscow venue, who died a few days after the show of pnumonia.

I don't know about UK copyright/trademark law specifically (I'm an American) but the rights to the title "Monsters of Rock" would probably not be enforcable in my country; it's too ubiquitous, being used for many small, localized events every year. If naming rights are held in the UK, they probably were (are?) held by Maurice Jones/MCP Concerts, the promotor of our show at Donington and, by then, long-time promotor of the series there. My guess is that Maurice wouldn't make much of an attempt to enforce his license overseas - it's notoriously hard to do so across borders - and I suspect he'd be resigned that it's just going to be used sometimes. The result is that "Monsters of Rock" festivals in Chile, Brazil and even Italy probably don't bear much, if any, formal relationship to the concerts that are held at Donington, and would likely be independently produced, or produced by the headline band, as ours were.

I can't speak directly about Monsters of Rock festivals in other years, or any of the ones outside Europe, since these were the only ones I was on. I enjoyed my run on MOR very much, and I hope this is helpful background for this entry. If anyone has any further questions or seeks additional clarification, I encourage you to email me via wikipedia's service.

Kind Regards,

Jrdeardorff 03:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)J.R. Deardorff, Merchandising/Asst. Accountant, AC/DC World Tour, 1990-91

Fair points, but the title has a certain reputation now. It is internationally recognised (The Elfoid 08:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC))

[edit] 1986 Monsters of Rock

The illustration titled 'Poster for the 1986 Monsters of Rock' is actually the cover of the tour programme. I'm reluctant to edit the article as although I don't recall seeing that design on a poster, I can't be 100% sure it wasn't used in this way - can anyone shed any light on this? It was definitely used for the programme cover, though - I still have mine.

Also, regarding the firework incident during Motorhead's set, IIRC it was an 'ordinary' firework thrown at the stage rather than a rocket. I'm not 100% sure, though, so I'll leave the article alone. Does anyone else remember?

[edit] Look at this!

http://www.redwoodcrescent.com/donington/Donington.htm (The Elfoid 08:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC))

[edit] This page looks awful

This seriously needs to be re-ordered. Its just an over-sized list. I think it would be perhaps better to have, instead of a list of bands that takes up a lot of space, to have a short paragraph about each year. i.e. In 1999 X, Y and Z headlined the event. A were also scheduled to play, but had to pull out at the last minute due to ... Other bands included... . It would just look better i think, and be slightly more informative.

[edit] First Paragraph, Parenthetical Phrase

The first paragraph has a parenthetical phrase in it: (with the odd exception, and a one-off comeback in 2006). This phrase is confusing. I think my edit, or one like it, would help clarify the meaning of the phrase. This, of course, pivots on whether or not I properly understand it myself. I suggest: (with the odd exception of a one-off comeback in 2006). Please advise. DeftHand (talk) 09:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)