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The NOTRTHEASTERN monsoon in Tamil Nadu begins typically in kakka - What is "kakka"? Nik42 00:14, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • I was wondering the same thing... The Finnish word "kakka" means "shit" or "poo", so it might be vandalism. KFP 20:24, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I removed that sentence as I was unable to find any other meaning for "Kakka" than the one above. KFP 15:02, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
Kakka means crow in Tamil. It was obviously a prank Idleguy 17:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] References needed

 This article does not cite any references or sources. (August 2006)
Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unverifiable material may be challenged and removed.

This article needs references for the sections on the Asian monsoons. -- Beland 4 July 2005 21:25 (UTC)

In some weeks I will work on de:Monsun (monsoon), de:Enstehung eines Monsuns (basical monsoon dynamics), de:Indischer Monsun (indian monsoon), de:Amerikanischer Monsun (american monsoon phenomena), de:Afrikanischer Monsun (african monsoon/monsoon phenomena), de:Monsunkriterien (monsoon criteria/monsoon definition), de:Monsunwind (monsoon wind), de:Monsunregen (monsoon rain), de:Monsunwald (monsoon forest) and some others. It's not possible for me to translate this huge amount of articles (note: they are today only a base of what will come in future). The main point is there are nearly no basics in the english wikipedia I can build upon. But if you need informations about monsoons: ask me. --Saperaud 00:00, 16 July 2005 (UTC)


Monsoons are very stupid and waste of winds. Thanks.

Monsoons are not storms like this article leads people to belive. They are actually a seasonal change of wind direction which causes massive rains AND very dry periods, even draughts. Although I have plenty of information here in the book "Diversity Amid Globalization", Im having trouble finding sources online. Most people relate monsoon with heavy rains, but that is considered slang and not what a monsoon actually is. Lanaii 13:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)LAnaii


A monsoon is a seasonal (climatological) phenomenon, so develops and subsides over a period of months with typically one cycle per year. Not to be confused with the individual weather systems that comprise a monsoon. So you could photograph a storm within a monsoon season but not a monsoon itself, which makes the image (or at least the caption) at the head of this article a bit absurd. (Deditos 12:14, 22 February 2006 (UTC))


I was thinking it would be relevant to add the link to the "African Monsoon Multidisciplinary Analyses (AMMA)" at the end, but unsure how. It's a large international collaboration that started a few years ago to study the monsoon and its effects.. The link is http://amma.mediasfrance.org/, if anybody else thinks it's relevant, please add it! Thanks

[edit] Article Improvement Drive

I've nominated this article for improvement, as I feel it has currently not got much beyond a stub and there's potential for it to be a really nice article. The article needs at least an more accurate definition and descriptions of each of the major tropical/sub-tropical monsoons: South-west Asian (Indian), South-east Asian, West African, North American, South American, Australian. I'll be giving it a go, but hopefully others will get on board. (Deditos 12:14, 22 February 2006 (UTC))

Unfortunately, it didn't make the cut. I'll try to do bits and pieces anyhow. Deditos 17:30, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proper citations required

Yes, the article needs better organization and better defenitions. For instance, the southwest summer monsoon is part of the Asian/Indian monson. Hopefully, I will be able to add/edit a few statements and also include proper citations in the coming days. While talking about scientific articles, citations are of utmost important to avoid misrepresentation, misunderstanding and ambiguity.--Rocksea 03:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
With a year of no progress on this matter, I started the process a few months ago of adding references and cleaning up the wording due to the upgrade of monsoon trough to GA class. Feel free to help out, if you can. Maybe we can make this a GA article in the next couple months. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 01-VII-2006 edit

I've edited out the bit in the Indian monsoon section talking about children loving it and people going about in raincoats -- it's hardly a provocatively cultural thing that indians wear raincoats and rubber boots and use umbrellas in the rain. I've also changed the tone a little bit and alluded to the Mumbai floods of 2005. --219.91.152.10 03:39, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources of moisture

I can find no references to the Gulf of Mexico as a source of moisture for the North American Monsoon so I removed that from the article. All of the references I can find refer to moisture coming from the Gulf of California and the Pacific Ocean. Maps show moisture funneled between Baja California and the Sierra Madre Occidental from a source in the tropical eastern Pacific. Some of this moisture may do an "end-around" from the Gulf of Mexico but I can find no mention of it.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/fgz/science/monsoon.php?wfo=fgz Fred Bauder 20:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rain season vs Rainy season

I know nothing about this stuff, but I notice that Rain season redirects to one article, and Rainy season to another. Is this proper? Should we merge? Cheers. PizzaMargherita 16:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Information

There was a section about "God" on this page that had nothing to do whatsoever with monsoons. It was removed. March 6- 11:19PM EST. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shadowduck02 (talk • contribs) 04:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Article Vandalization Alert! =(

The following was found in the opening of the article: "jesus loves you!!;;" I of course removed it and hopefully put back everything to the way its supposed (I hope) to be. =) 74.96.186.207 20:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] North America drought?

Vis-a-vis the fact tag added to the article. A quick google revealed little evidence for any "continuous drought status", in fact, this article preprint Contemporary Trends in Drought on the North American Continent indicates that severe droughts have affected a decreasing area of the South-west US since 1990 (Fig 1g). This doesn't disprove the "continuous drought" idea, but there's still no positive source for that statement. Deditos 12:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Image clutter

There are lots of great images in the article, but they clutter it up and make it look a mess. I'll try to put some of them in a gallery so they won't be lost. -- Fyslee/talk 18:59, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I dropped the gallery idea after discovering it was only one very atypical image that was causing all the problems. I restored the original lead paragraph and the new one as well. -- Fyslee/talk 19:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Etymology

The etymology given for "monsoon" is dubious. Numerous reliable sources (e.g., http://www.bartleby.com/61/21/M0402100.html) give an Arabic etymology with the meaning "season", not a Hindi etymology with the meaning "weather."

Second that, monsoon is from Arabic mawsim meaning season --76.81.32.83 08:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism after last edit on 19 August 2007 by RyanW124

Just to clarify, everything after the last edit on 19 August 2007 by RyanW124 appears to be vandalism and reverts of vandalism. The page was pretty-much gutted and only a few bits had been reverted back. The above last edit looked like the last good copy of the page. I reverted to the above edit on 20:11, August 27, 2007 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.159.225.121 (talk) 20:16, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Add asian monsoons to this article

I think we should add asian monsoons to this article because it is about monsoon and that article does have different sections for indian monsoons and african monsoons.Amisha Dave 1996 22:46, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

You are probably refering to the article Asian Monsoon. I made it a redirect to this article. A merge template has been in place for three months, and no credible reasons against it have been stated. The information that was in the article was very limited, nothing that isn't already here. -- Pepve (talk) 00:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] where monsoon come from?

I'm very intresthing in this about monsoon.But i whan to know more about monsoon,whereare they comefrom what are they made of. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.11.145.46 (talk) 18:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No discussion of its effect on the Horn of Africa

(A note to future editors if I fail to get back here to fix this.) One oversight here is the important effect the Monsoon over the Arabian Sea has on the Ethiopian highlands: in effect, it creates a Winter season there from around March to October! (IIRC, the locals actually do name this rainy season as "Winter".) Robbing the Highlands of the tropial summer gives this land an unexpected temperate climate, which has led some early travellers to consider Ethiopia a rich & fertile land. One last effect is that the water these Monsoon winds bring to Ethiopia are collected by the Nile, & lead to the river's famous flood stage in the middle of summer -- a phenomena that mystified the ancient Greeks, & led to much speculation on their part. -- llywrch (talk) 21:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)