Talk:Mongols (motorcycle club)
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". There is no other relationship between the historical ethnic group the Mongols and the Mongols motorcycle club other than the shared name, unless you also take into consideration the fact that many members of the club are of aboriginal and/or Spanish ancestry, and also consider the theory that the indigenous peoples of North and South America are descended from peoples of the Mongoloid races who, according to this popular theory, crossed the Bering Strait several tens of thousands of years ago." I deleted the above excerpt. It was very, very, VERY unnecessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.179.78.41 (talk) 01:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Gang vs. Club
I reverted the change in category from Motorcycle Club to Motorcycle Gang. The Mongols are, in fact, a motorcycle club. The term motorcycle gang has no concensus definition. Mmoyer 02:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mongols in Canada??
To the best of our knowledge here, there are no (still living) Mongols who have a chapter in Canada. I too, seem to recall visiting their website a while back and seeing that they claimed to have a chapter (or chapters) here. If you visit their website now, this claim is no longer being made, so I've deleted this claim from the article. Since most of the larger independent gangs based in Canada have either been patched over to the Hells Angels or (in some cases) to the Outlaws, in other cases disbanded, Canada is now firmly HA's territory from coast-to-coast, unlike previously when they only controlled BC and Quebec. The Outlaws still have some pockets of control in Ontario, and apparently the Bandidos made some inroads here, but not sure how many remaining members the Bandidos still have in Canada after that recent bloodbath. The vast majority of other existing clubs that haven't been patched over are operating as puppet clubs for either the Angels or the Outlaws, most likely the Angels.
The Mongols, as tough as they claim to be, wouldn't dare ride around in Canada flying their colours, or, if they had dared, we would likely have already heard about the subsequent violence on the news.Garth of the Forest 22:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Okay; I've just visited the Mongols website again today and am perplexed. They show the Canadian flag on their homepage, but don't list anywhere in or even near Canada under "Chapters". Maybe they're planning to expand their Chapter 13? :)
Seriously, all joking aside, my guess is they've done that (put the Canadian flag on their website) solely to annoy the Hells Angels, a favorite pasttime for the Mongols. If anyone can verify a Mongols sighting in Canada, or provide a reference that shows their extended presence here, I'd be very surprised, yet interested to see the reference material. Garth of the Forest 22:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- I think that either they have a chapter somewhere but aren't saying (a common practice) or their nomads may be around somewhere trying to prospect some members to form a charter. Just MHO. I think its okay for the article to say Canada as long as it's on their website. Mmoyer 02:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
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- I have reverted my change (to remove the reference to Mongol chapter(s) in Canada) because - you are right - the way the article was worded originally it referred to where the Mongols claim to have chapters as per their website. I've also made some minor changes to the overall wording of the article to help the flow; I hope y'all concur. Garth of the Forest 21:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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