Talk:Mongolian name
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[edit] Surnames
I just wondered somewhat over the surnames part of this article. I am not aware that Borjigin or other clan names have become rampant for little children in Outer Mongolia. Admitted, Mongolian ultranationalism as a means of political distraction is on the rise, but as far as I have experienced, fathers' names were and are the norm. And while I don't even have much of a clue how this is officially regulated at the time being (a combination of fathers' name and clan name seems to occur in Inner Mongolia and might be possible here as well, with either one component or the fathers' name (or name of one parent, but under exactly which circumstances) obligatory?), the information given would certainly have to be confirmed - or abandoned. G Purevdorj 18:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- This is a misunderstanding that needs to be corrected. "Borjigin" is not a surname in the western sense. It is a "clan name". While it is true that the authorities keep a registry of those again (they were supressed during socialism), they are of purely symbolic nature with no relevance at all in everyday life. Actually, most clan name associations nowadays are fictional, because the information of which family belongs to which clan has largely been lost. After registration opened again, almost everybody ran to register one of the two or three most prestigious names, with Borjigin leading the pack by a huge margin. --Latebird (talk) 22:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Yeah, that's a real improvement. Sourcing wouldn't be bad, but isn't that pressing. Only the point about Innermongolian names is too one-sided. We have Gu. Jorigtu and Borjigin Badmaodsar. Thus, I don't understand what is meant by "usually". For the time being, "often" will do a better job. (Of course, you could also write more precisely on this point.) G Purevdorj —Preceding unsigned comment added by G Purevdorj (talk • contribs) 10:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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It is not the place to complain but I don't like the fact that in western countries I have to be addressed by my father's name and in writing my own name is lost somewhere as a single letter. I would prefer to use my own name as last name. Temur (talk) 00:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe you should make a point of correcting people whenever they get it wrong ;-). Seriously, though, I think older passports (at least until 1997) displayed the ovog (i.e. patronymic) as Given name and ner as Surname. Yaan (talk) 21:16, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Name order
Posted an issue about name order at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles). -- Jao (talk) 20:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
