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Contents 1 Gdansk 2 Map 2.1 Maps are now in Commons 3 Chelmno 4 Edit sign problem 5 Article content 6 Holy Roman Empire 7 Teutonic Motto 8 German name for the state?

[edit] Gdansk

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[edit] Map

This article could really use a map illustrating the state's expansion from Chelmno Land. Ksenon 00:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm on it. Space Cadet 01:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maps are now in Commons

Hi,

I just added the commons interwiki. I wondered where the hell was the template Template:NowInCommons (or alike) as far as I could remember ; sorry I was just unable to find it.

Could you please tag the 3 pics ? The sentence links the pic to the commons Counterpart.

Yours, --Lilliputian 21:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
P.S. : Space Cadet : wonderful work !

Just found it. For the record : {{NowCommons|Image:Teutonic state 1466.png}} . Lilliputian

[edit] Chelmno

"...Konrad now suffered from retalliatory strikes, when Prussians sought to clear their territory in Culmerland/Culmigeria from partial take-over by Konrad's troops..."

In the relevant article it is stated that the city was founded by Poles in the XI century. What's the truth? Ksenon 15:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit sign problem

When the edit signs are showing, there's something amiss with the one for the 14th Century section. I don't know how to fix this.qp10qp 16:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article content

The article in its present state is little more than a summary of information already at Teutonic Knights. Ideally, the article should address the composition of the order- rules, positions, administration etc. At some point in the future I would like to add such information, but others are more than welcome to instead. Olessi 16:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Holy Roman Empire

The article claimed that the state was part of the Holy Roman Empire, which it was not. The Teutonic order hold some territories in the Empire, but its state was not part of it, and subject only to the pope. I removed the claim from the box. -- Zz 14:43, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Teutonic Motto

Added the official motto of the Teutonic Order, taken from the Order's website http://imperialteutonicorder.org/_wsn/page3.htmlHere Rcduggan 22:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

That is not the order's website, but a hoax site run by someone in England claiming to be "His Imperial and Royal Highness Prince Karl Friedrich von Deutschland", an utterly false title. The order's webpages are actually [1] and [2]. Olessi 23:30, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Ooops... my bad. Sorry. Rcduggan 00:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

do you know what the ACTUAL motto is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcduggan (talk • contribs) 00:37, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not aware of a motto used by them off the top of my head, but I'll add it if I can find an authentic one. Olessi 15:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I've seen the motto said to be "Help, defend, heal".... what about that? Rcduggan 21:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a reputable source for it? Olessi 20:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

yes. from this actual site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Order Rcduggan 19:12, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

That link, actually the Wikipedia article "German Order", was a mix between a disambiguation page (describing different "German Orders") and a content fork (two articles describing the Teutonic Knights). An anonymous user had expanded the article, but did not provide a source for the motto. Other Wikipedia articles are insufficient by themselves to be references. Olessi 19:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] German name for the state?

for a while I have seen it written as "Ordenstaat" but now the change has been made to "Ordensstaat". Which one of these is correct, and why? was it an error, or had the previous spelling been a mistake? Rcduggan 19:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Ordensstaat ("order's state") is the correct spelling. Compare to Ordensland ("order's land" or "order's country"). Ordenstaat is a relatively common misspelling. Olessi 19:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)