Talk:Molly Bloom's Soliloquy

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I removed the part Molly Bloom's direct, simple language speaks more to the reader — even moves the reader — more than all the rest of the novel. because it is not neutral point of view. Everyone has a different opinion on which part of Ulysses is best, with one critical guide I read saying it is Bloom's musings on life and death during the funeral. - Kricxjo 10:11 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)

Not everyone has an opinion on which part of Ulysses is best. In fact, most people haven't even read it.--xoddam 08:31, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hahaha THAT's a silly commentary, man LOL--euyyn 21:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed these paragraphs which might fit into the Ulysses article:

Ulysses is famous for introducing stream of consciousness to fiction. Characters' thoughts, fragments of memory and fantasies are mixed with input from the outside world. Despite Joyce's attempts to replicate the flow of sensation through characters' minds with a diverse repertoire of literary effects, it is doubtful that anyone has such intelligible thought processes as the characters in Ulysses do. Vast stretches of mental time are often passed without any thoughts that are expressed internally in words. This is a failing of the stream-of-consciousness method. An author must either include blank pages, pages of scribbling, musical notes, etc., or give up the pretence that one is reproducing the mental process. An author has to acknowledge that out of the nearly infinite range of daily human experience he is selecting specific items to put together artificially to represent through language what is largely inarticulate.

The stream-of-consciousness approach introduced by Joyce has had a great effect on modern writing, but Ulysses may be the over-the-top experiment that has allowed other writers to use the technique selectively as it is appropriate in their writing.

Rmhermen 14:34, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

IMO this page should be deleted. It might as well be a very short personal essay. --Nick 01:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)@

[edit] Conspicuous omission

Critics are pretty well unanimous, I think, that Molly's last words in the chapter are spoken as she masturbates to orgasm (which helps get the Back to School joke mentioned in the article). Anyone more up on these things than I am, care to provide a cite so this can be put into the article? --Andersonblog (talk) 22:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure? The word "yes" appears throughout the soliloquy — it's even the first word. Read the final part of the soliloquy here, where it's been reformatted. I think Molly's "yes" is an answer to Leopold's marriage proposal, and she repeats it throughout her recollection of that day:
  • the sun shines for you he said ... the day I got him to propose to me yes ...
  • after that long kiss I near lost my breath yes
  • he said I was a flower of the mountain yes ...
  • and I thought well as well him as another and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes
  • and then he asked me would I yes ...
  • and first I put my arms around him yes
  • and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes
  • and his heart was going like mad and yes
  • I said yes I will Yes.
Read in context, the word "yes" hardly seems to suggest that Molly is masturbating (although I suppose that's a possibility). — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 00:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm not "sure" about anything in Ulysses but I do recall seeing this in some critics. "Yes" has relatively little to do with it; the context certainly is consistent with Molly's bringing herself to orgasm. That interpretation is for example the basis of a recitative described here.

Authorities around the world have repeatedly banned James Joyce's masterpiece Ulysses, usually because of the literally climactic soliloquy of the character Molly Bloom, who unabashedly cries out, "yes I said yes I will Yes" after detailing hererotic exploits. Now Italian performer Anna Zapparoli has adapted that scene to the stage, performing it for the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in August. Sitting atop a grand piano and accompanied by a jazz band, Zapparoli sings lyrics taken from Molly's monologue.

--Andersonblog (talk) 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Good point. There isn't any certainty in the analysis of literature. If you think that article, or other articles, are reliable sources, go ahead and add that interpretation to the article. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 19:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article title

Any good reason why this article is capitalized? I believe it should be at Molly Bloom's soliloquy instead. -Phoenixrod (talk) 15:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)