Talk:Mokshagundam Visvesvarayya

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Does somebody knows from when we started celebrating this day(15th Sept) as Engineers Day?

is there some day as World's Engineering Day? Which is that?

Contents 1 A shocking error 2 Telugu? 3 Why not? 4 Removed 26 commandments 5 DVG ?

[edit] A shocking error

It is shocking to see that Sir M.V.'s birthday is mentioned as 28th August. This error symbolises all that is wrong with Wikipedia and with us, unthinking persons, who accept the written word without query. Someone has even posted a query above asking when we started celebrating 15th Sept. as "Engineer's Day"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder who the Admin of this article is. He should hang his head in shame.

The date of birth is actually 15th September Prksh1 09:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Telugu?

It's highly improbable that a family that migrated to modern Karnataka and lived there for three centuries could be termed as a "telugu family". Can some provide proof that the family actually spoke telugu after all this time in what is today Karnataka and that Sir Visvesvariah spoke telugu while being the Diwan of Mysore. - Dinesh Kannambadi.

Hi Dinesh, It goes without saying that Sir MV's command over Kannada was excellent, and that he yielded to none in love for that language. However, he spoke Telugu at home his whole life; I can affirm this from personal sources -- also, please refer to The Mulukanadu Community for information on the community and their language. The List of Diwans of Mysore may also be of interest, in exemplifying the eclectic manner in which Mysore attracted and accepted talent from every quarter. Regards, ImpuMozhi 17:16, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I dont care what your personal sources are. they are immaterial, irrelavant and useless to Wikipedia. keep your great original research for yourself. prove to me that he spoke telugu at home. He even used to sign in kannada. And the mulukanadu community cannot be termed telugus by any stretch of imagination. karnataka has a large population of mulukanadu smartha brahmins too and all of them are kannadigas. Even if we were to assume for a moment that MulukanaDu brahmins were originally telugu speaking 300-400 years ago, all that is immaterial. It is like calling most muslims and christians in india as hindus because their ancestors at some point in time may have been hindu. All that matters is what they are identified as today.

Further, even if we again assume again for a moment that MulukanaDu brahmins were telugu, do you have any references to cite which say M.V's family spoke telugu at home? Provide references or I shall remove that statement.

Ramachandra Guha mentioned this once in the Hindu, in the context of discussing how open-minded and unparochial the people of the Mysore region are.[1] -- Arvind 18:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why not?

Millions of the descendents of Telugu people who migrated to Tamil and Kannada regions in medieval times still speak Telugu at home even today. It is unfortunate that a few persons cannot tolerate the very mention of historical ancestry of such people. It shows how much chauvanistic and fanatical certain persons have become and are trying to distory history on Wiki pages.Kumarrao 07:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed 26 commandments

I have removed the 26 commandments:

• There are only 11 of them not 26.
• They are unreferenced.
• They are not encyclopedic - individual's mantras of success needn't be collected on wikipedia.

Tommy Stardust 18:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DVG ?

You have not mentioned the name of DVG who was a long time friend of Sir M.V . He also assisted Sir M.V on many administrative matters.

The source of this is Jnapaka Chitra Shaale written by DVG. 59.96.192.206 (talk) 16:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

There is no "You" here. Anyone can edit Wikipedia, yes, even you can add the information to this article. If you have a reliable source which talks about major interactions between Sir M.V and DVG, please go ahead and add that information yourself. If you are not comfortable, please provide more information to this talk page, on what is present in the source you are referring to. - KNM ^Talk 20:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Are books considered as reliable sources ?Chandra.mouli.n (talk) 11:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes. If you are referring to a book, along with the author name, please provide the publication as well as ISBN. - KNM ^Talk 14:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)