Talk:Mohammed Hagi Fiz

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[edit] Is there any objection to a speedy delete?

Here is how the article reads as of today:

Mohammed Hagi Fiz is a frail elderly Afghani man who was detained in Camp X-Ray in the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Fiz, and two other Afghani man, Jan Mohammed and another elderly man Mohammed Sadiq, and elderly Pakistani, Mohammed Saghir were repatriated on October 29, [[2002], after eight months detention. The four were among the first detainees to be repatriated. Fiz said he was 105, but American authorities decided he was born in 1931. The men described being chained, for hours, during their interrogations. Some press reports described Fiz as barely able to conduct a conversation: "..appeared to be in his 70s and was barely capable of carrying on a conversation--let alone of being a terrorist. 'Babbling at times like a child, the partially deaf, shriveled old man was unable to answer simple questions,' the New York Times reported. 'He struggled to complete sentences and strained to hear words that were shouted at him.' " Fiz said the Americans had initially captured him from his hospital bed.

Joaquin, please read WP:CSD. If it falls into any of the criteria there it is eligible for speedy deletion. I see nothing there that this article would fall into, so please stop asking meaningless questions on the talk page of articles. Please also do not post the article content here, we are all capable of reading it for ourselves. This is just more evidence of what seems to be your own personal vendetta against another Wikipedian. Please stop, it is not very helpful and somewhat less than mature behaviour. --Cactus.man ✍ 15:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Joaquin Murietta 15:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Will do, just wanted to make sure you had no objection. Joaquin Murietta 22:08, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Can this article be rewritten? Does it need to be?

The article seems to be POV, unencylopedic in its current form Does anyone have an objection to its being rewritten? Joaquin Murietta 15:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

As above, stop asking meaningless questions. Either set out specifically where your concerns are, and engage in meaningful discussion, or edit the article as you see fit. All edits are open to review and alteration by others, as you well know. --Cactus.man ✍ 15:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] not listed.

The DoD was finally forced to release the names of all the Guantanamo detainess. Fiz's name is not on the list. There is a detainee on that list who the DoD calls "Faiz Mohammed", whose age is listed as UNKNOWN.

This may or may not be Fiz.

I think we should not accept the DoD's estimate of his age as reliable. Their estimates of the age of the minors they held was unreliable. If "Faiz Mohammed" is "Mohammed Hagi Fiz" then even the DoD wasn't willing to stand behind their estimated age. -- Geo Swan 02:30, 3 June 2006 (UTC)