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Cassopolis

STOP DELETING MY COMMENTS ON CASSOPOLIS. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.120.139.4 (talk • contribs) 00:06, 1 Dec 2006 (UTC)

Vandelism

I noticed that a user had vandelized this page but good. I reverted it and gave him a warning. --Iriseyes 03:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

About the email you sent me about me said Vandelized list of Camp Lazlo Characters,I didn't vandelized.You just Offend me and made me look bad.-User:Kongsaurus12.

sorry

will not happen again.I had no idea that the change really changed like it did.Wow! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.82.46.18 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 17 Dec 2006 (UTC)

Not sure why you changed those Marvin Minsky citations. Those were edits he made on the cite, so the self-referring citation was evident. Maybe you have good intentions, but the road to bad editing is paved with such. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.96.191.184 (talk • contribs) 07:19, 17 Dec 2006 (UTC)

SORRY BOUT DAT.....

SORRY BOUT THAT. DIDNt KNOW ABOUT A SANDBOX. WILL NOT DO AGAIN. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.40.115.114 (talk) 00:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

Prodding an article

When you prod an article you are requested to notify the author. You didn't notify me even though you did at least use a meaningful edit summary. Note the Prod tag itself states:

Nominator: Please consider notifying the author(s) of this page via their user talk page using {{subst:prodwarning|Tontine Group}} ~~~~

I dispute the proposed deletion but will put more effort into justifying notability under WP:Corp as per your tag however, as I am on a wikibreak - it may take a few days.--Golden Wattle talk 18:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

As you know, WP:PROD says "please consider", which implies that it is not nesscary. That said, sometimes I do leave notices on peoples pages when PRODing and sometimes I don't. Since that is not a requirement, I don't always consider leaving the templated message. Cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 19:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

As a matter of courtesy, you should take the direction of "please consider" a little more seriously if you wish to actively engage in new page patrolling as per the user box on your user page. Wikipedia:Civility is one of the core principles of this project and leaving a message explaining your actions is in line with that principle. Not everybody may pick up the tagging in their watch lists.--Golden Wattle talk 19:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. I will take it into consideration in the future. Cheers again! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 19:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Bot?

In order to check where the AfD was at I looked at your recent contributions. You have been doing between 5 and 7 edits per minute welcoming people this morning (my time); between 6.14 and 6.18 am you welcomed 33 new users. Are you running a bot? You aren't registered as having done so.--Golden Wattle talk 21:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

No sir. 100% human =) -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 21:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Obviously a better internet connection than mine--Golden Wattle talk 21:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Care to join another WikiProject?

I was just looking through the assessment logs over at WikiProject Airports and noticed that you had created Krasnoyarsk Yemelyanovo Airport earlier this month. I was just wondering if perhaps you'd care to join as a participant. We could always use new users helping out, but if you're too busy, I understand. Thanks! thadius856talk|airports|neutrality 21:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

(P.S. - That article isn't listed in your /Created ;)
Thank for the invitation, but I wasn't the person who created the page Krasnoyarsk Yemelyanovo Airport; that would be Timvasquez (talk · contribs). I just added the Airport Project tag in at Talk:Krasnoyarsk Yemelyanovo Airport. Just an FYI if you want to extend him an invite as well. Cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 22:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Tontine

In withdrawing your nomination, you stated "Nomination for article was based on this state, but creator quickly asserted notability after AFD warning" That state and the nomination was at 6:01 am my time (Australian Eaastern Daylight Saving). [1]. I regard this view of events as disingenuous. I had already notified you on your talk page before that time (several minutes) that "I dispute the proposed deletion but will put more effort into justifying notability under WP:Corp as per your tag however, as I am on a wikibreak - it may take a few days." [2] Your prompt nominating for AFD despite my assurance that I would indeed put effort into justifying notability but that it would take a few days, was neither assuming good faith, nor in my view civil. However, I am pleased that other members of the community unanimously supported my efforts.--Golden Wattle talk 20:14, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I am pleased as well; Nice work on the citations. Cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 20:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Some background info....if you have the time

Just wondering if you can fill me in on a particularly ignorant editor as you seem to have had some history with him. SEGA (talk · contribs) and his IP socks 67.33.61.18 (talk · contribs), 68.112.25.197 (talk · contribs) have a LONG history of vandalism, disruption, personal attacks and other complete disregard/disrespect for Wikipedia policies and guidelines. How has this user been able to fly under to radar so long without getting ban-hammered? Do you know of any admins who are familiar with the edit history of this individual and can put a permanent anchor on him? I know you've had numerous conflicts with him in the past...I just thought I'd ask. Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 18:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

If you want, you can take a look at a recent discussion I have had with the admin User:Meegs about the images this person/IP may have been uploading; the discussion is at User talk:Meegs#Image uploader. On December 6th, after some wheel warring with the IP, I posted this to WP:AIV. The admin User:Luna Santin then suggested this might be something for WP:AN/I. I decided, at the time, that I didn't feel like getting involved with a possibly long process and figured I would rather just revert the edits. Last night, I noticed the block on User talk:Registered user 92 and thought that might be a good way to go with this user; it even crossed my mind that perhaps this was another related user. Contacting the admin that blocked him, User:King of Hearts, might be a good idea too, since the block was also in part because of "continuing copyright issues." Of course, we can't know for sure any of these are the same until a WP:RFCU is done. Anyway, if you decide to go to WP:AN/I with this or some admin, let me know and I will give my take on the situation. -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 00:03, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Interesting trail. Good to see some dialogue on it with Meegs. I don't think Registered user 92 (talk · contribs) is related to SEGA. Reg 92 is now 75pickup (talk · contribs)Reg 92 changing name at Wiki Project Guitarists link 75pickup doesn't appear to edit with the same "attitude" as SEGA or his IP socks. Compiling a case for ANI takes time...time I don't have at the moment. I am in and out of Wiki just long enough to vandal rv and thats about it. But this particular user has got under my skin as of late so I have been tracking edits just to make sure policies aren't being shaded. I will keep a VP eye on the other users mentioned in your discussions with Meegs. Feel free to chime back to me on how your discussions with Meegs progress. And feel free to point Meegs in my direction if he wishes to here my views/findings on the "Unfriendly Uploader". Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 00:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VII - December 2006

The December 2006 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 23:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Spam removals?

Hey mate, how are you? I just wanted to report this annoyance, there is this guy who keeps himself really busy removing links, and he does catch some spamlinks, but he also deletes references, and external links that are compliant with guidelines. It almost seems as if he automatically deletes links that were placed after a certain date, but that's just my observation. I made multiple attempts to talk to him on his talk page and ask him to stop repeatedly removing links on stuff that I have on my watchlist but I can't get a hold of him. It probably has to do with his ip number constantly changing, the last 2 or 3 numbers are different sometimes: like 66.38.39.121 and 66.38.39.81 I think.

I think if he continues vandalizing random links he should get a (temp) ban, if he seriously wanted to help wikipedia out he should register an account right? regards, GerardK 21:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey there man, how is it going? Let me know what IP numbers exactly you are referring that made the edits (even if they change) or what pages they have targeted and I will take a look at the edits. -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 22:29, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Would appreciate you looking into user GerardK history. He is totally reversing whatever I am working on cleaning up in the wiki. Without even looking at what changes have been made. Most of the sites are blatant spam and he reverses them to be back into the wiki. I really don't know if he has the integrity of the wiki at the foremost. If he is proud to be a Wkikipedian as his user page says, then he should treat it as something serious and not something just to build links to boost his personal pages in the search engines. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.38.39.146 (talk • contribs) 15:15, 12 Dec 2006 (UTC)

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The Transhumanist   23:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I would be open to answering questions, if you feel that my responses are needed =) always willing to help Wikipedia users understand stuff better! Cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 00:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes please. You can answer the questions that Budgiekiller answered, and there's some more questions in a general section too. And if you have any questions for Budgiekiller, feel free to ask him. It's an open discussion, and it will be interesting to compare the techniques and expertise provided by those who join in and participate. Yes, do stop by! See User:The Transhumanist/Virtual classroom#Budgiekiller, on vandalism.  The Transhumanist   00:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Neopaganism Edit

Hello, moe.Ron. Thank you for reverting my change to the Neopaganism page. This has motivated me to get a wikipdia login name for myself. I have been very dissapointed to watch the Neopagan page change - it looks like people just keep fighting over edits, which makes me sad. This was a very good entry just last June when I first read it, but now it seems full of fighting, and cautionary tags - often without backup of why these tags were placed over on the talk page.

I removed the banner because I did not see any backup argument for the tag in the discussion section. Perhaps I missed this. 68.158.183.225

I understand your concern and whole-heartedly endorse that you receive a username. As for my edit, I did so because I didn't see any insertions of sources or removal of anything (most likely WP:POV words. I see now, that at the bottom of the paragraph, there is a {{fact}} tag, so you might want to see if you can find something to verify that. Anyway, if you have any questions at all, feel free to ask! Cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 00:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Mathew Fletcher

Techncialy I could speedy delete it. Prod seems a reasonable compramise.Geni

Speedy deletion wouldn't work, though, since it has been more than 24 hours since created. But, according to WP:PROD, it shouldn't be PRODed again, if should just be send to WP:AFD. For this reason, I am going to remove the prod, but feel free to nominate it for deletion. I would surely vote for deletion, but I was going to give the user a chance to provided sources like he mentioned at Talk:Mathew Fletcher. If you have any questions, feel free to ask! Cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 02:42, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
There is no 24 hours limit on speedy deletion.Geni 02:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Your personal attack against me

Your attack against me for making comments about the provenance of information in Wikipedia is entirely out of line. Asking for sources is in no way related to the policy diatribe entitled "Wikipedia is not a soapbox." Your behavior is consistent with a pattern of harassment against all who dare to suggest that Wikipedia is not all fanatics claim it to be. I suggest you direct your comments at the content of articles, and avoid attacking those of us who find a better approach to literary analysis than fawning praise of our own creations.

I am not restoring my comments to the Lerdo page because I located the source in the article for the information in question. I did restore the comment after I found your notice on my talk page accepting my supposed gratitude, which I did not offer, for help that you did not offer and that I did not request. You will find I don't comply well with efforts to patronize me.

I notice you lacked the concern to remove the {(fact)} tag that my perfectly appropriate comments explained. I will post the comments on any and every geography article that I find lacking sources. All US geography articles lack sources. All US geography articles are copied from official sources. All such articles are plagiarized. If Wikipedia doesn't want to be the venue where the merit of its content is discussed, perhaps its secret administrators would better appreciate their systematic plagiarism being discussed in the New York Times and in the Washington Post.

I demand that you desist from misrepresenting that I somehow am using Wikipedia as a soapbox when I offer accurate analysis that describes unsourced copied material as plagiarism. I demand an apology and I encourage you to recognize that your message to me was in no way based on any reasonable premise, but instead is part of a pattern in which irrelevant Wikipedia policy and guidelines are tossed about in preparation for more serious administrative attacks against those who criticize particular aspects of Wikipedia's literary merit, or lack thereof as the case might be. Marakopa 04:54, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Your signature

Please see WP:SIG for guidelines regarding user signatures. They recommend that you do not use big text, be sparing with superscript or subscript, be sparing with color, and point out that signatures that take up more than two or three lines in the edit window clutter the page and make it harder to distinguish posts from signatures. Not that I'm particularly annoyed by it, but you may get hassled for it at some point. -Freekee 06:07, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the concern. I am aware of WP:SIG, but after probably 8k edits since I started using the sig (2k in ~~~~ marking), it hasn't been a problem. Thanks again and cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 06:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Ha! On second though, I did trim off the one link to the band moe. -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 07:04, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Grateful Dead

I would like to contribute the information about Warf Rats to the Deadheads article, but as you know with so much of the Deadhead culture and history, it was in the 'oral' tradition. What would you suggest.

CheersSpruceforest 22:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, sorry I took so long to get back to you. Like I mentioned about, make sure to use and/or understand WP:RS and WP:V. Another good thing to read would be the discussions at Talk:Deadhead; there was a problem a couple months ago about wanting to use forums as sources. On the whole, the best information to cite is going to come from one of the many Grateful Dead books on the market. I have three, The Illustrated Trip, Garcia's biography, and Lesh's autobiography. Even if you don't have these books, head to your local Borders or Barnes & Nobles and find the information while having a drink in the cafe, haha. That is what I used to do with The Penguin Guide to Jazz before I finally bought it. You might also want to go through Dead.net's "archives" section to see if there is any mention of various deadhead groups. If you have further questions, feel free to ask. Cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 02:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

re: Recent Edits

Hi Moeron, thanks, I will. And apparently I'm a mad man! I really don't get this user, they made some genuinely good edits to start with, but then it all went a bit wrong. Hope the whole thing can be resolved, it really gets on my nerves that they're being so silly. Madder 02:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:The_Age_of_Mortals_series_novels

I'm wondering as to the purpose of this category; wouldn't it be better to move these books all into Category:Dragonlance novels? Ddcc 23:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

It is a sub-category of a category that can be easily categorized further. The novels in this category have a parentage of first being a Dragonlance novel, but it goes further to being part of a series of books. Yes, some series shouldn't get a sub-category, such as books that are themselves only part of a triology by the same author. However, in this case, I felt that a (possibly) ongoing series with books by various authors is warrant for a sub-category. -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 23:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
The thing is, there are almost no books with articles in that category, and the articles are nothing. They provide almost no information. Creating different subsections for different series is an impossibly proposition, as there are 46 different series listed. Even assuming that half were created by the same author, that still leaves you with 23, a number that is way to large. In addition, the number of Dragonlance books with articles is so small that there currently is no point subdividing them. Ddcc 04:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
P.S.: Your "Let's talk" text has no hyperlink. Ddcc 04:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
If you want, you can send the Category for deletion to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. As for my "Let's talk", you are not seeing a link on this page because this would be the page it links to. If you look somewhere else I have left my signature, it works fine. -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 04:04, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

SEGA and his cast of a thousand socks

Just wondering how your "investigations" on the photo troll were going? I see he's taken his frustration out on your user page.(and mine also) Which is a new level of low for the user. Quite a few new User account socks appeared over the Christmas weekend as well. What's next? Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 15:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Looks like the IP was blocked earlier today for his recent edits. Once the block is over, I will watch the actions by the IP and/or the other users. If images that violate WP:FU keep getting inserted into articles, I will possibly compile something for WP:AN/I or even WP:RFC. I think some sort of action is overdue, especially since possible puppets are now uploading pictures saying pictures were taken by them when they are the first things that come up on a goodle image or yahoo image search. Cheers! (PS Thanks for the page reverts as well) -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 01:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the note. That IP (and the other "suspect" IP) is blaclisted so I tend to follow-up on any edits I may come across from it. Especially now that he's decided to vandalise user pages. Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 00:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I quickly threw another "checker" onto your sandbox list. I will try and dig up some more + add some comments....you've got it well covered so far. I am having tech difficuties from my temporary Xmas vacation spot. I am having trouble staying online for more than a minute or two. Hopefully I can get some stability so that I can keep tabs on this. If not good luck! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 00:25, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Moeron/RFC

When you have completed this Request for Checkuser, you can move the page to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/RFC, and then list it at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Pending. DarthVader 23:01, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

WelcomeBot

I noticed you welcome noobs. I am doing research in prep for the welcomebot trail in order to establish some facts on new user trends. Please can you have a look at Category:WelcomeBotResearch. I would appreciate your involvement. Also so as to assist, please can you sub your welcome template with {{welcome123}} which includes that category. Thanks. frummer 02:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

{{WPBiography}} on musician articles' talk pages

Hi, I noticed that you added {{WPBiography}} to Talk:LeRoi_Moore. You could improve that by adding {{WPBiography|musician-work-group=yes}} which tags the page for the WPBiography "sub"-project WikiProject Musicians at the same time. Cheers and best wishes for a happy new year, BNutzer 03:10, 31 December 2006 (UTC)