Talk:Modern Library 100 Best Novels

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I've listed it in copyright problems as per the discussion in Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Copyright_question_related_to_lists. --Ragib 04:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I rewrote it as a summary, not as an infringing list. – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 14:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Why isn't it mentioned anywhere that this list contains only (or at least almost only, I haven't checked thoroughly enough) novels written in English?

[edit] Fact dispute

I highly doubt that the "most recent" novel is written in 1908. So all 100 novels were written between 1900 and 1908??? To the Lighthouse and Invisible Man, both mentioned, are published later than that. DHN 18:17, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should be mentioned

I don't know how to make it NPOV, but if this is to be an article at all, it should mention that the Reader's List of 100 best clearly got bombed by Scientologists, Objectivists, and other fringe groups. The top 3 in Fiction and Nonfiction are by either Ayn Rand or L. Ron Hubbard with the exception of a book entitled "Objectivism" at no. 3 in the nonfiction list. While the official list is quite fine, I think the silliness of the reader's lists seriously merits mention in this article. 206.255.186.237 03:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The full list

Back in 2006 the full list was removed for copyright reasons. However this makes no sense. It should be possible, even desirable, to create a category containing the 100 novels. The category itself would be the list (machine generated; not in order). Does it then become "illegal" to mention that a book is on the list (in the article of that book) because it is semantic information that could be used to compile a full list? It makes no sense. There are tons of examples like this on Wikipedia - Tables of Contents from books. Other lists taken from books. The Pulitzer Prize list. Lists like this were meant by the publisher to be disseminated and copied, the publishers retain the copyright (I assume?) to prevent people from altering it, not to prevent copying it. It really does hurt the Wikipedia project not to have the full list here, and takes the idea of copyright to an extreme not practiced in the real world, indeed just the opposite of what the real world does. Fothergill Volkensniff IV (talk) 03:48, 23 April 2008 (UTC)