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[edit] Welcome to the Wikipedia

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ClockworkSoul 15:24, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)


[edit] 2005 Kashmir earthquake

Image:WikiThanks.png Thank you for your contribution at 2005 Kashmir earthquake. Please keep it up!!!Pradeepsomani (talk)

please see WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, & WP:V. the existing language describes the debate, saying "x claims y." if you want to say "y is false," YOU have to provide the reputable reference publications that say "y is false." the editor adding stuff has the burden of proof. please read the wikipedia policies. thanks. Appleby 18:04, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

please, please, please read the wikipedia policies. the article does not say "there is evidence for x." it says "some koreans claim x", not that "x is true". you can write "some japanese claim there is no evidence for x" but you cannot write "there is no evidence for x" unless you can prove that the consensus of reputable publications say "there is no evidence for x". Appleby 19:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Your edit to Japan

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[edit] Peace and Progress

I really dont know much about it... i had seen it there for a year when it was suddenly removed, so i thought i'd revert it and make the article too. If you have any info about it plz let me know, or fix it yourself.WoodElf 16:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dokdo RM poll

Hey, could you participate in a new poll for Dokdo? The candidates include Liancourt Rocks, Takeshima, and the new Takeshima/Dokdo variations suggested by user:Macgruder. I'm informing you because you voted on the last poll. Thanks. (Wikimachine 19:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC))

Thanks.--Mochi 03:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ilbonnom

No, I strongly disagree with you. Korean feel offensive to hear "朝鮮人 in Japanese language(I don't even want to see the transcribed word" that is a slur for Korean including myself. There are several reports on usages of 朝鮮人 in Japan, and some of them say the term contains discriminative and scornful meanings against Korean-Japanese. Besides, Japanese government officially doesn't use the term at all, if a vacuous Japanese politician calls Korean as 朝鮮人, you will see a cold response and infuriated voice from the Korean government and public, and the incident would be printed in the head line of all of Korean, Chinese, American and Japanese newspapers.

As for Ilbonnom, that word is not a slur against Japanese unless adding "saekki" (bastard) to it, because Ilbonnom (日本+ 놈 자, 者) merely means a Japanese man. In addition, Korea officially called Japan "Whaeguk (倭國)" until the modern days. Therefore, Whaein or Whaenom referred to Japanese at that times. If you are called Whaein(倭人) or Whanom(倭者) in the present from Korean, how would you feel? 朝鮮人 is in the same vein of Whaein or Whaenom.

However, you keep denying the fact over 朝鮮人 that every Korean know. Instead of Ilbonin, or Ilbon saram (the latter rarely used), Nihonjing that Japanese call themself is used not in a good way in Korea. Some anti fans against the entertainers from Japan (Japanese or Korean-Japanese) call them "Nihonjing" or "Nihonno" in a certain tone even though they don't know anything about Japanese languge.

The people who got punishment along with bunch of Japanese war criminals were Chinilpa in Japan. Chilinpa were not considered Korean anymore at that times and almost nationalized Japanese. They were Japanese whatever you think. Still descendants of Chinilpa are criticized in Korea, so they try to cover up or deny to reveal any relation with their shameful ancestors. Digging into what has prompted your word, "war criminals", the biggest war criminal of Japan had persistently survived his life without getting any punishment. What an irony of history. --Appletrees 17:40, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

No, you're wrong. As I said, Whaeguk, and Waein were officially used in Korea until the modern times. For example, you can see it in the official documents regarding Japanese Invasions on Korea (Imjin "Whae" Ran). Besides, people who reported the assassination of Empress Myeongseong of the Korean Empire wrote Japanese as Whaein nangin. Although your country changed the national name in 7th century, Japan wa called Whaeguk from the neighbor countries like China and Korea. Likewise, Jungguk (中國, 중국) has been consistently changed its national name like Eun, Jin, Song, Myeong, Cheong(Qing), and these days, they've always been called "Jungguk" and "Junggukin". After Japanese force occupation, Korean have started to call Japanese as Ilbonin or Ilbonnom. Japanese government didn't request to the neighbor countries to call the changed nation name.
As for 朝鮮人 in Japanese (Didn't I say that I don't want to see the transcribe word? If people say they feel unpleasant with your behavior, don't do that way again. You intentionally wrote it in English on my talk page. You are certainly better typing in hanja with computer than me due to the language difference.), there are abundant example to describe how 朝鮮人 sounds in Korean people (including Jaeil gyopo). I show the evident. You seems to read Korean, so read this. [1] , [2]
  • Histocically, the name of the country was Chosen in Japanese language in 1392-1910, so Japanese call the people Chosenjin. It is not a discrimination.
Historically, "Was" is correct.
  • During the Korean Empire, Japanese call the people both Kankokujin and Chosenjin. Chosenjin is probably a traditional expression.
Distinguish between traditional and customary.
The country name of the north part contains 朝鮮, so Japanese call the people Chosenjin. It is not a discrimination. As I said, North Korean people in Japan call themselves Chosenjin.
No, I met North Korens residing in Japan with the North Korea nationality. Some enable to speak Korean language among them call themselves "Buk" Joseonin, the others call themselves "北"朝鮮人 in Japanese. Don't forget the difference between 北朝鮮人 and 朝鮮人.
  • The word Chosen may remind South Korean people of bad memories during the occupation, and the word Chosŏn may remind South Korean people of bad images about North Korea. However, in Japanese language, the words Chosen and Chosenjin are no longer discriminative words, and Chosen is a common word for Korea, for example Korean peninsula is called Chosen-Hanto in Japanese. Whether you and South Korean people like or not, Chosen and Chosenjin are not offensive words in Japanese.
No, you're wrong and it's your misconception. You can't even compete the bad images and painful memories caused by Japan with North Korea. Besides, most of Korean don't have bad images of Joseon and Joseonin, the transcribe Korean words in English because Korean are proud of the ancestors and their accomplishments in the long history. BUT 朝鮮 and 朝鮮人 in Japanese remind of bad images enough according to the bad behaviors and crimes committed by Japanese from the past, such as Imjin Whae Ran in the late 16th century and Japanese occupation to still now due to the unsolved Kore-Japan relation, and the racial discriminations against Korean-Japanese in Japan (Why are even Japanese trying to use "Jainichi Korean" in English wiki? This is not a Japanese encyclopedia. Haven't you see the titles of any literature or art written in foreign language are all translated in English. Have you ever see any French titled painting articles except the special occasion like ballet terms and etc?) Besides, until the unification would happen in future, Japanese should differentiate to call North Korean and South Korean like 北朝鮮人 and 韓國人. 朝鮮 and 北朝鮮 is NOT the same nation at all. The problem is that Japanese still 朝鮮人 in Japanese language use in a disdainful way against all of Korean people, 韓國人, 北朝鮮人, 在日韓國人.
And I have some Japanese friends (not a Korean-Japanese) who told about the discriminative meaning of 朝鮮人 in Japanese in detail. So don't preach me on the matter anymore and don't use the slur toward any Korean (at least South Korean and Korean-Japanese) If you use it to those people anywhere including the internet world, you will have to prepare yourself for hearing Inbonnom saekki or Jokkbali from Korean and there will be just bloody cat fight between Korean and Japanese.Do you want the result? --12:50, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


  • My response to your recent comments
You seem not get what the meaning of "preach" is. The further discussion in a polite way is fine, but don't try to persuade me as if your assertion is completely right and mine is wrong. I feel uncomfortable with those nuances in your comments. Don't deny you don't have that attitude. I sense it.
Besides, I spot a report that there are socket puppets going on within Wiki and sadly, the person is on the list. So I asked him how to come over my talk page.
Korean (with South Korean nationality) can't accept your assertion that 朝鮮人 in Japanese doesn't have discriminative meaning. As I repeatedly said, there are abundant media to describe the usages of 朝鮮人" in Japan. Japanese surely used the term as slur with adding "pig" "dirty" "mean" until 1980s. You don't read what I suggested to you. If don't believe me, see any movie directed by 崔洋一. And ask other (South or Jainich) Korean how they feel if they hear 朝鮮人 from Japanese.
As for 倭人, show your evidence that historical document of Korea called Japan as 日本 before 1890s. I took an instance to compare 朝鮮人 with 倭人. I don't think that example is too far from this discussion.
Regarding Jainichi, I saw the article "gaijin" which is on heat whether it has a racial prejudice or not. I feel the same way on the Jainichi Korean. Your point-out on Korean-Japanese is right. They are not nationalized Japanese at all. However, have you ever thought Japanese peculiarly distinguish between natives and foreigners with the such words especially Korean. Because they occupies the highest population among the foreign residents in Japan, differentiation might be needed like hwagyo in Korea (The history of hwagyo traces back from 11c. This case is different from Jainich in many points due to the complexity over the relationship between Korea, China, Taiwan, and North Korea) I think "Korean permanent residents in Japan" sounds NPOV, but Jainichi Korean in English Wiki...hmmmm. because here is not the Japan wiki at all.

I don't think further discussion is needed because you and I don't acknowledge the thoughts of each other. --Appletrees 14:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] straw poll regarding flag...

...at the bottom of Talk:Occupation of Japan. Thanks! Ling.Nut (talk) 15:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of japan

Hi Mochi, we have a straw poll with a supermajority for the Hinomaru, plus we have reliable sources indicating it was the de facto flag. I changed it to the Hinomaru. I left ample reasons for this change in many places. I notified the person who wants the ensign of the results of the poll and of the verifiability of its results... I don't think there's reason to argue further. If that editor wants to keep posting on the talk page, there's simply no reason to reply. If that editor engages in an edit war by repeatedly reverting the article's contents, then perhaps at that time WP:RFC might be the answer... Thanks! Ling.Nut (talk) 04:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

OK.--Mochi (talk) 04:53, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Non-English citation

A non-English source is better than nothing: sure. The source is from a Korean newspaper which provides same articles in various language, and is written in Korean first for principal readers, of course South Korean. However, Mochi added the citation in Japanese version. if you wanted to search the info in English or Korean, I believe you can easily get the exact same info. However, he chose to use the Japanese version, which raises a question to me. If the source is only available, we can use it regardless of the language problem, but that is hardly true. In addition, Chosun Ilbo is regarded a pro-Japanese newspaper in South Korea, so I don't think the newspaper excluded English and Korean version.

I have a same experience to search matched English information of Korean versions on Hong Chang-soo's nationality. Well, here is not a Japanese Wikipedia and the content deals with Korean culture, so why we stick to use the Japanese citation? Give me a good reason on the matter. In my perspective, you haven't tried hard in finding the source.

P.S I might have to add an interesting information regarding the former 1st national treasure of Japan which is really from Korea. However Japanese tried to cover the truth in public. There has a lot of information written in Korean, so I don't expect you wouldn't object my adding Korean citations. Thanks--Appletrees (talk) 13:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Why do I need to try finding it in English? It is your job to find the source. You seem to read Korean per our prior discussion. As I said, I have a same experience to prove some quality info to English user with English citations. You haven't tried harder. Your claim also is mere an assumption'. Well, you said that not all articles are translated into other language, which means the author is not a Korean but Japanese writer?. Please provide at least one good English source or Korean source for the article. --Appletrees (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
It is simple. I cited the Chosun Ilbo, because it is a South Korean paper, and I thought the article is a reliable and helpful source. If you think the source is bad, why not find a better one?--Mochi (talk) 14:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
It is simple. I and my young people don't read Chosun Ilbo which has not much good reputation for its articles on Japan-Korean relation and Korean politics like Sankei Shinbun. And you're the one responsible for finding the same contents written in either English or Korean. If the article is written by Japanese editor for only Japanese readers, the article may intent to aim only Japanese. Then how do I believe its reliability? You keep trying to me to take over your job for finding an English source.--Appletrees (talk) 14:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I found similar article in JooAng Daily in Japanese[3]. --Mochi (talk) 15:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Here is not Japanese wikipedia. Please try to find the source written in English. FYI, I and many young readers don't read 조중동(Cho-Jung-Dong, Chosun Ilbo, JungAng Ilbo, Dong-A Ilbo) all of which are like Sankei. --Appletrees (talk) 15:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not interested in what you read. It is important that two of major Korean newspaper wrote similar articles about Korean national treasures. The information is reliable.--Mochi (talk) 16:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Are you talking about the relationship between Miroku-bosatsu in Koryuji and Bangasayusang? I talked about it with somebody. See Talk:Bangasayusang, and you will find my opinion. You should know that Japanese National treasures are not called by the number.--Mochi (talk) 14:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Didn't I say "the former 1st national treasure of Japan? Please don't cover the fact. It is a well known incident in South Korea. And the Japanese national treasure holds a lot of Korean treasures from smugglings and thefts which info also to be included in the Japanese article as well. --Appletrees (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I do not know what is "the former 1st national treasure of Japan" you are talking about.--Mochi (talk) 14:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, be patient until I add something good. The statue of Buddha held in 廣隆寺 is the one. You may don't know of the incident happened in early 1980. And do you know why Japanese government designates Korean and Chinese treasures as "Japanese treasure"? Just have a wait a bit. --Appletrees (talk)

廣隆寺=広隆寺=Koryuji. I don't know what happened in 1980. Japanese government designates treasures as "National Treasures"(国宝/Kokuho) not "Japanese Treasures". The main reason for the designation is to remain things in Japan. Many great buildings were destroyed in the modernization, and some of the greatist Japanese treasures were imported to Europe and the US.--Mochi (talk) 15:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I am not interested in Japanese' import to the Western but in unreturned Korean treasures in Japan like Annals of Joseon Dynasty which returned just two years ago. --Appletrees (talk) 15:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Korea was a part of Japan, so it was no problem to move things from Korea to Japan. You may blame it, but it was like "moving things from Seoul to Busan" then. After the end of the control, Japan and South Korea agreed "Agreement on the Settlement of Problem concerning Property and Claims and the Economic Cooperation between the Japan and Republic of Korea"[4], so Japan did not have to return Annals of Joseon Dynasty legally. If Japan decide to return things, it is hard to decide which Korea to pass. In addition, Japan left many cultural properties in Korea.--Mochi (talk) 16:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Of course, you have no problem for the Japanese thefts and illegal smugglings which has been considered a typical Japanese crimes because you're an ordinary Japanese. The settlement has been hugely criticized because of its unfair condition contracts between the two country. You must remind that Japan took many cultural properties from Korea and excavated royal tombs especially Baeje's: officially Japan still hold over 7,4000 items of Korean treasures. Unofficially minimum from 3 times of the official number to maxed up to the 10 times according to a recent Korean government report. Almost all of Goryeo Buddhist paintings are in Japan which are only found five paintings in South Korea. You can't complain for Japanese imports to the West. Because Japan was deadly defeated by the Westerners and saved by US's military. --Appletrees (talk) 16:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
"You must remind that Japan took many cultural properties from Korea and excavated royal tombs especially Baeje's" Yes, I know. It was considered natural to take excavated things then. The situation is similar to British Museum.
"Almost all of Goryeo Buddhist paintings are in Japan which are only found five paintings in South Korea." Well, how many of them were illegaly brought out from Korea to Japan? According to Japanese sources, some of them were already in Japan before Hideyoshi's invention, and some of them were bought by the Japanese in Occupied Korea. Chosun Kingdom restricted Buddhism, so Buddhist things were easily sold.
Some Koreans are stealing things which Japanese people bought from Korea, and Korean media are admiring such crimes.
A Japanese temple in Iki Island preserved Buddhist texts published in Goryeo since 1486 for over 500 years. But they were stolen by somebody in 1994. In 1995, similar Buddhist texts were discovered in Korea, and designated as Korean National Treasure #284. Japanese government asked Korean government to search them, but Korean government dinied. What do you think?
A lot of Japanese properties were sold to Europe and the US legaly. I complain such things are not in Japan, but I don't criticize Europe and the US because they were the result of trades. Koreans are criticizing even the results of trades.--Mochi (talk) 12:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


A lot of Korean properties were not lawfully sold to Japan. Japanese confiscated them illegally or demand to sell it from Koreans in very cheap prices with force. There has many report and documents about Japanese crimes about the matter. Gansong Art Museum was founded to prevent the Japanese crimes. Of course, it should be included in Japan Korean relations. And your assert about Korean admiring the incident is just your assumption with no citation. If you fail to provide a source to back up your theory, you are just saying false assumption. I said there has official reports" held by South Korean government and also has several books regarding the matter.
If you keep making provocative wordings like this, maybe we need uninvolved admins or meditaters. And the British Museum or Louvre Musee are hugely criticized for the excavation and outdrawn. Some of them (actually many of them) are considered as illegal thefts. Are you praising imperialism of UK? Your comments sound just like such.
And also you don't know anything about Korean culture and history. Buddhism is not strictly prohibited in Joseon dynasty. And in Josoen royal palaces or famous Buddhist temples and seowon, there had storages to reserve cultural properties like a modern museum. Goryeo cultural treasures also were there. In addition, don't spell the country with the false word like Chosun. You're making me waste my time here. Any discussions between you and I are all nothing but vain quarrel. I'm not interested in Japanese importing to the West. Even thought Japan was occupied under US and other countries, they didn't treat Japan with the same thing as Japanese had done to Korea and China. --Appletrees (talk) 12:52, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
If you consider my statements false, I don't mind. Some of them were stolen and brought to Japan, but others were legally moved in. This is not a Wikipedia article here, so I do not cite. You can search by yourself.
According to Korean Buddhism#Suppression under the Chosun dynasty (1392-1910), "Buddhism was gradually suppressed for the next 500 years. The number of temples was reduced, restrictions on membership in the sangha were installed, and Buddhist monks and nuns were literally chased into the mountains, forbidden to mix with society." Some temples disappeared, so Buddhist things were sold to Japan. Koreans believe Hideyoshi and Imperial Japan robbed, but there was another route like this.
About country name, see Joseon Dynasty. It says "also Chosŏn, Choson, Chosun". There are various romanizations.--Mochi (talk) 15:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't do that again.

No, you're absolutely wrong. I feel like you're stalking me since Yujacha article. I provided the reason at the edit summary. And you just blindly reverted without any reason. Tell me what is your intention for reverting and wikistalking? Please don't make me waste my time again. I already abandoned a hope you and I ever reach a consensus but just bitterness. I didn't know you're so much interested in the disambiguous page--Appletrees (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Let's talk at the article's talk page about an article. You did not provide any reason why Sunchon National University should not be included while Sunchon National University uses SNU.--Mochi (talk) 16:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I left a not about the matter. Please be patient and don't ever stalk me again. Your stalking is annoying. If you don't we won't talk to each other again. And what is your reason for your blind reverts? --Appletrees (talk) 16:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your Wikistalking and POV

Did I politely suggest to you not to do the stalking me any more? I fully read the citation which is almost no relevance to the Yakuza article but I didn't remove. Rather I elaborated your wording. Why do I put up with your personal attack? The word, "severe" discrimination is mentioned in the NYT which vividly describes burakumin's discriminatin. Besides, according to Zainichi Korean articles, nationalized Koreans to Japanese also are called Zainich regardless of their citizenship in Japanese. If you want to persuade me, change the article first. I haven't said that I agree with your previous opinion on Zainichi. Never. --Appletrees (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't stalk at all. I just edit articles that are biased by some Koreans, where you often are. From NYT article, you thought "severe discrimination", but other people may not think so. Your words may bias readers' impression.

According to Koreans in Japan, "Strictly speaking, the term "Zainichi Korean" refers only to long term, permanent residents of Japan who have retained either their Joseon (old, undivided Korea) or South Korean nationalities, not Korean-Japanese, or ethnic Koreans who have acquired Japanese nationality through naturalization."--Mochi (talk) 14:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I initially believed that you're just a visiting user from Japanese Wiki, but every time you appear at here, you just follow my footstep. I don't think your following is coincidence anymore. Besides, are you insulting me this time as writing "are biased by some Koreans"? The article was written by some biased Japanese not by Koreans as you wrongly accuse. I added the fact tag which is called "biased" by your definition? Quite impressive. The Zainich article has changed again since I visited last time, and I have to change wrong wordings in Korean-Japanese related articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Appletrees (talk • contribs) 14:46, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I sometimes see your log, which helps to find biased articles. I don't say your edits are biased. Any problem? Note that "biased" is my point of view. Of course, some people may not agree. This time, you added fact tag, and I put a citation. I don't think your edit was biased, everybody should demand citations if one wonders.--Mochi (talk) 15:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pyrus pyrifolia

What are you talking about? No, we're waiting for the photographer's answer and you're not him. And you first reverted the article as if your reverting is the consensus reached at the talk page. You should not have written Per the talk page because your revision is not warranted by editors. You, of course may know what "per" means. "According to" the talk page.......that was never consensus reached. You just wrote "your intention to make a change". Please remeber, reverting also includes "adding" per WP:REVERT --Appletrees (talk) 13:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your POV pushign and Wikistaking 2

How many times have I told you not to stalk me? You previously admitted that you were frequently checking my edit history and followed me. Why dont' you stop this disruptive behaviors? I didn't event the way of convention in the articles. I translated some of info from Japanese Wikipedia because I don't know much of IT terms, so I collected some of info that I can translate. If you know well about ISP or IT services, feel free to contribute to them. But don't lie that the information is not customary and is only inserted by me. That kind of information is all presented in Japanese Wikipedia. You must contest Japanese editors there first. And stop pushing your POV and don't dare to stalk me again! --Appletrees (talk) 16:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

You are probably interested in Japan, but write wrong information, so I sometimes check them.--Mochi (talk) 16:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't write the wrong information, because I believe every editors should stick to citation and reliable sources. But you often falsify information which is shown several times like Pyrus pyrifolia. And your double standard is also your biggest blockage toward NPOV. You don't deny that you're wikistalking me, huh. --Appletrees (talk) 16:25, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
You wrote:
Among telecommunications providers in Japan, au one net has the second largest subscribers next to OCN (NTT Communications).[5]
It is an example of wrong information. Your citation is about cell phone, not ISP.--Mochi (talk) 16:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

ja:au one net au one net（エーユー　ワン　ネット）は KDDIが運営するインターネットサービスプロバイダ事業である。

電電系プロバイダでは、OCN（NTTコミュニケーションズ）に次ぐ会員数を持つ。

Blame the Japanese editors. And you might acknowledge your falsification well. Please don't falsely accuse me of anything. In my point of view, you're the one keeping writing wrong information. --Appletrees (talk) 16:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

The Japanese wikipedia is probably wrong or old, in addition uncited. It is unfortunate to translate unreliable information. But, you added a wrong citation. If you read the news document, you could find it is about cell phone. Well, everybody makes mistakes sometimes, that's ok. But "I don't write the wrong information", I don't think it is a good phrase. I say again everybody makes mistakes.
About the topic, I seached reliable sources, but could find only old ones. Maybe, YahooBB(by softbank) has more users. Latest data seems not available.--Mochi (talk) 17:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
As I once said, I don't know much about IP terms and I couldn't find many "English sources" for the claim. But I really needed a reference to prevent from being deleted by admins.(BIGLOBE was the subject for speedy deletion) The references I added looked appropriated at that time. If there is a Japanese article, I might've added it but I don't know why you keep following me? You may well know that I'm really sick and tired of IP vandals who keep deleting or adding information without any good source! I once had a good impression of you, even though we can never share any same opinion, you seemed try to act civil and provide citation unlike User:Azukimonaka, User:Yuan.C.Lee (The socks are all infinitely blocked). But why are you calling me writing wrong information? I don't understand you and please let me editing freely.--Appletrees (talk) 17:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I know this isn't the au one net article's discussion page but I want to point out to Appletrees.. he should've thought about getting the references before. It doesn't have to be English sources.. the site can all be in Japanese. So go get sources and start expanding. --Sτaκa 17:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please give the opinion

The relation between imperial household and Baekjae of Japan is being discussed. I hope for your opinion. [6]--Princesunta (talk) 10:23, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] checkuser

Hi. Looks like you've not been notified of checkuser. Appletrees added you to the checkuser list for unknown reasons, and claims that you've been "wikistaking" (sic) him/her.[7][8] As one of the victim of his/her random checkuser requests, I've reported to the AN/I. --Nanshu (talk) 01:38, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I wish to express my gratitude for your advice.

I wish to express my gratitude for the comment of you of Talk:Imperial House of Japan. And, please help me again. I use poor English. Therefore, I do not understand the reason why Appletrees gets excited. Could you concisely explain his insistence? Because his rebuttal is complex, I do not understand. --Princesunta (talk) 11:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)