Talk:Mob football
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[edit] Introduction
This article is necessary, in my opinion, to give a backgroud to the differences in Rugby Football and Association Footbal (Soccer). Please help to expand it.
Rowlan 23:07, 19 December 2005 (UTC) danny wilson was here :P
[edit] Argument to Keep
This article is a precursure to Mediæval football. Mediæval football developed from Mob Football, not the other way around, if anything Mediæval football should be integrated into the Mob Football article.
Rowlan 03:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think this should be merged into the Mediæval football article with a redirect from here. There is barely any content here, so it's ridiculous to suggest that the reverse should occur. Grant65 | Talk 13:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
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- It might seem ridiculous but, the fact is that if you go in accordance to a historical timeline, mob football comes first and Mediæval Football is a spinoff or developement of the game of mob football. So, how about we leave it alone. Let the small, unoffensive mob football article stand, and let the mediævalarticle stand...and maybe we can crossreference.Rowlan 15:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Not all medieval games were "mob football", e.g. Calcio Fiorentino. What is your source for the claim that medieval football is a "spinoff" or development"? As far as I can see they occurred in exactly the same period, or mob football is merely one variety of medieval football. Grant65 | Talk 04:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- It might seem ridiculous but, the fact is that if you go in accordance to a historical timeline, mob football comes first and Mediæval Football is a spinoff or developement of the game of mob football. So, how about we leave it alone. Let the small, unoffensive mob football article stand, and let the mediævalarticle stand...and maybe we can crossreference.Rowlan 15:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Okay. I do see your point, my argument hasn't been well referenced. So here's my thoughts after reading both articles and the article Football as well as outside sources such as info from Fifa's website which I have now added into the Mob Football article. Mediæval Football, to me, seems to be more of a reference of Football being played during this time period. If one were to say "modern football" we would think of the modern varieties that are played today: association (soccer), rugby union, rugby league, aussie rules, gaelic, american and canadian. When we think of Mediæval Football we must then list the types of the game (or varities of the game) that were being played during that time, such as Calcio Fiorentino and Mob Football. I therefore think that both Calcio Fiorentino and Mob football deserve their own articles just as rugby, soccer and american football deserve theirs. In my estimation the characteristics of Mob Football are what really inspire the more violent forms of the sport today. On the other hand it is also what dictates the more ruly versions such as association football. So, I think it should stay, obviously, and I think more research should be put into it and the article should be further developed on its own.Rowlan 15:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Merge - per Grant65. Rowlan fails to make the case - both are loose modern terms. It might help Rowlan's case if he had loads of early references to "mob football" being used, but he doesn't. There is no tag on the other article btw Johnbod 20:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removal of Merger Status
Today, 01 August 2006 I am removing the merger bar from the article. I am keeping all the conversation here, but no one has really stated a great case, in my estimation, to merge. If you come across this and have a different view, by all means let's discuss it, but for the present, I want to really improve this article which I started. Cheers! Rowlan 13:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- On the contrary, this material is all covered in Mediæval football and it is an insult to the wide variety of games played in Mediæval Europe, to refer to them as "mob football".
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[edit] Introduction
hello my disscusion is about mob football and ll about it This article is necessary, in my opinion, to give a backgroud to the differences in Rugby Football and Association Footbal (Soccer). Please help to expand it.
(Accidentally removed by me during RC patrol — G.A.S 17:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC))