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[edit] Abbreviation of Saint

I was quite sure that Saint should become "St" not "St.", as the "." replaces the missing letters in the word, and as the first and last letters are used, it replaces nothing. I suppose it possibly should be "S't". I'll research it. Mrbowtie 13:02, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't know; my St Paul's uses just St (the UK one) and maybe I'm being overly pedantic, but I'm quite sure of that rule. Maybe it's specific to British English. However, as the school uses a dot, I'll go with that. Mrbowtie 18:00, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I concur with the sentiments of Mrbowtie

I have to agree; the use of a period at the end of abbreviations is limited to words truncated unto their first couple of characters, for example [abbreviation -> abbrev.] .

However, when contracting a word to its first and last letters (as in SainT or MisteR), the period is neither required, nor its inclusion advised.

Thanks, The Fish 13:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Piping on disambig pages

Hi. The guidelines for disambiguation pages state quite clearly that entries on disambig pages should not be piped. A disambiguation page is simply a list of links, so there is no need for it. -- Necrothesp 11:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] high speed tilting

Hi. I just figured that you should know that an hhp-8 can go 150mph, also that no power car on a high speed trainset tilts. The only purpose of the tilting is passenger comfort. Not for any other purpose. There is only one section of track that allows for highspeed trainsets to travel at a greater speed than conventional equipment and there are no sharp turns on that stretch by Kingston RI. On all other sections of track conventional equipment is allowed to travel just as fast through the curves. So tilting is not the reason that high speed trainsets are allowed to travel faster. It has to do with the trucks (boogies) and suspension. If you have any further question I can be contacted at hammank@amtrak.com

[edit] Olivier

Hi Mjl!

Just to let you know that I have reversed a change of yours and why.

With regards to Laurence Olivier, as referred to in the article on his wife, Dame Joan Plowright, Lady Olivier. Yes, that's correct.

Olivier was correctly styled Laurence, Lord Olivier. Like this in fact [[Laurence Olivier|Laurence, Lord Olivier] (with a bracket missing so it's visible). You removed the word Lord.

Ok. First he recieved a Knighthood. That made him Sir Laurence Olivier. Note: not Sir Olivier. The "Sir" always goes with the first name, never the second. (Sir Galahad, Sir Lancelot, Sir Francis Drake.)

After he'd been Sir Laurence for a bit, he received a Peerage. This means that he became one of England's Noble Lords (nobility). There are a range of peerages available. Nearly all of them are hereditary and the creation of a new hereditary peerage is rare. But, at the suggestion of British Parliament, the Queen can create "Life Peers" which means that they become a Baron, for the remainder of their life, but can't pass the title on. The title of Lord then precedes the person's surname. In the case of Sir Laurence, he became Lord Olivier. He is never called Lord Laurence Olivier. He is called Laurence, Lord Olivier.

So, likewise, Joan Plowright can be called Dame Joan, because she has recieved an knighthood (that's the letters OBE after her name- Order of the British Empire). Or else, if she wishes, can can use her entitlement as the wife of a peer and be called Joan, Lady Olivier or Joan Plowright, Lady Olivier.

Just two more things- the person's surname and title don't have to match. You can be John Brown, Lord Bloggs. eg. in Tarzan the character's surname is Clayton and title is Lord Greystoke.

It is possible to be Lord Firstname (rather than Sir Firstname) but only under one circumstance, if you are the son of a Duke, which is the highest rank of peerage. A Duke's children are all called Lord and Lady. The example that comes to mind is the fictitious character Lord Peter Wimsey. I've thought of a real life person- The Queen's cousin, the Duke of Kent, has two sons. The eldest is the hereditary Earl of St Andrew's (and signs himself St Andrew's though whether he does it with or without a period after the St I cannot say!) His younger brother is Lord Nicholas Windsor. Their sister is Lady Helen Windsor.

Does this make sense, or is it all horribly confusing? --Amandajm 13:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


How odd! --Amandajm 21:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mjl! I'm not disputing your suggestion that someone else used your log in!

Just to let you know, the way in which I came to your page was to click on your name in the column next to the edit on the History page. If you go to the page Joan Plowright, you can follow the proceedure and it will take you to your user page.

Here is, copied and pasted, the heading from the page detailing the changes. The words (name change) are a description of the change itself :-

"Revision as of 02:03, 11 June 2006 (edit) (undo)

Mjl0509 (Talk | contribs)

(name change)

Newer edit →"

--Amandajm 22:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


For you info:- The way to track changes is to go to the History page, click on the date of the change and it will show you precisely what edit has been made. In this case, it shows "Laurence, Lord Olivier" change to "Laurence Olivier". Lord Olivier was Joan Plowright's husband. To make the changes absolutely clear, the words that are changed are in red, so in this particular case, the comma and the word "Lord" are in red. Check it out!

You can also check out your own list of contributions and find out what you did on what days, all in a list. The change to which we are referring was made precisely 3 minutes after you left a message on the Acura page, so I guess that you did have access to a computer, unless someone else wrote the, quote "verbiage", about Acuras. It sounds as if you must have wallked away and left it loggged in. The person who followed you up within 3 minutes was into Dramatic Arts rather than Cars and Colleges.

The reason why I wrote you a quite detailed explanation of my reversal is that, (presuming that you had made the change under your own name yourself) I thought you might be interested to know how the English system of titles works. (This only skims the surface). --Amandajm 22:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not expecting a quarrel. Being corrected when in error is part of the deal, here. One doesn't expect to get back a posting saying that one didn't write it, one didn't have access to a computer, the change listed as having been made was not made, the word wasn't there at all and that one (or one-other as the case may be) must be talking about something else or someone else. It is all extremely confusing. Particularly as it seemed fairly clear (or maybe not) that some-one-other-one had used the computer after one. Does that make sense at all?

Goodday! or Evening as the case may be, only I suspect that you are still in yesterday sometime while here in the Land of Oz we are rapidly whirling towards tomorrow. --Amandajm it's actually sometime after 3 pm on Monday.

Thanks for getting back to me. I'm currently bogged down with my stained glass window designers. There's so little info on some of the most major firms. One only finds a real biography if some town is proud of the achievement of a local person. Daniel Cottier, for example, was a Manxman. There are 18 hundred or is it thousand references to the windows of Clayton and Bell, but biographies....? --Amandajm 06:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] St. Mark's

Thank you for editing out the shameless boosterism on the St. Mark's School page. I briefly tagged it for lack of neutrality but quickly noticed your edits. Some people think a Wikipedia page is merely an extension of the institution's website. Thank goodness for people like you. Wiffer 00:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aussies spell it humour

I changed your "correction" in The Castle (film) article back to humour, I think its fair enough because its a Australian movie that the spelling in the article should be Australian cheers Bnsbeaver 07:10, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable (historical) inhabitants

Hi, Mjl! Saw your edit to the Concord, NH article. While there really isn't consensus about what to call that section (or even whether to have it (see this, for example), I went through the 220 towns and cities in NH and standardized them all to say "Notable inhabitants", mostly because it was the most inclusive, though still short, alternative that I'd seen. And to your point, "Notable inhabitants" doesn't really specify now or previously. I'd like to change Concord's back to match the rest of the cities and towns, but thought I'd drop a note here first to get your thoughts. Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 09:14, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Mjl0509 03:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


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