Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games

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[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games

I am proposing a deletion of this WikiProject and all related subpages. This project has remained inactive for an extrodinary amount of time. The last actual project related edit was May 2007, and many parts of this project have been dissolved. More bureaucracy has been created than necessary for the scope of this project.

Speaking of scope, the project primarily focuses on a genre and as User:Gazimoff wisely mentioned on the talk page of this project (in which we were discussing the inactivity of the project) as games in general develop more online capabilities and the MMO genre becomes increasingly popular, the overlap between this project and WikiProject Video Games becomes larger. The project is not really suitible for a taskforce under WP:VG either, because as I said before it is based around a genre of which it's scope is a wildcard and could encompass any possible number of articles. The distinction becomes blurred.

I also propose that the taskforces of this project are also deleted for similar concerns of inactivity and lack of participation. Any that has a consensus against deletion should be incorporated into WikiProject Video games. .:Alex:. 16:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment - May I propose we don't do some kind of vote but instead ask User:Greeves? User:Krator (t c) 18:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep and tag as inactive We normally just tag inactive projects with {{inactive}} and keep them for their histories. -- Ned Scott 06:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
    Comment - That is normally what we do. Atm, that is how it currently exists; however, we're moving to clean up the Video-game related Wikiprojects and deleting or redirecting the ones which are truly inactive is (we feel) better for the health of the project, as it centralizes both discussion and style guidelines. It also makes VG easier to maintain. --Izno (talk) 15:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
    Then redirect them. Deleting the pages removes editor contribution history, which includes discussion and a record of what they did at the time. -- Ned Scott 06:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Redirect to WP:VG, following the work at Inactive Project Cleanup. This project did achieve some good work, but in order to preserve history and promote easy navigation for new editors, it should be redirected to the parent project. Gazimoff WriteRead 08:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Question But what about the subpages, would we redirect all of them as well? That is my main concern, not so much the index page for the project, but all of it's subpages. --.:Alex:. 09:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
    Last time we had a Project with many subpages (Warcraft), we deleted the subpages and redirected the project's page to its new task force page, which is how I support dealing with this one. My only qualm is that the task force of MU*, which claims to still be active. I've left a note on their talk page, and plan to do the same on the other task force pages. --Izno (talk) 15:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
  • KeepRedirect But I'll withdraw my opposition to TF'ing it if the MUD TF is moved intact to be a TF of VG as well--it fits there just as well as under MMO. Yes, MUD TF is active, although at a rather low level. Jclemens (talk) 16:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I'd be happy with moving the MUD TF to WP:VG - it promotes centralised discussion, which is what this project cleanup is all about. Gazimoff WriteRead 16:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I also agree with incorporating the MUD TF within WP:VG. --.:Alex:. 16:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Fine by me, then. Jclemens (talk) 16:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep and tag as inactive - I have become inactive in this project and although not all the task forces need to be kept as some of them were never active in the first place, the project as a whole should stay. Greeves (talk • contribs) 22:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Redirect main and main talk pages to WP:VG and WT:VG, move TF MU* to a subpage of WP:VG, and delete everything else. What purpose does the project as a whole serve except to decentralize discussion for video game editors? Obviously, the editor will see the "inactive sign", but then the editor needs to figure out where to go from there. Further, I don't see it useful as a Video game task force, since it has such a large scope. Everything from Counter-Strike to World of Warcraft to the original MUDs to (even) various RTS games... It is difficult to separate the difference between "MMO" and "video game" these days. --Izno (talk) 22:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)