Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/Naruto

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. It appears that this MfD arose as a natural extension of the WikiProject's own discussion over its inactive task force. The WikiProject was not required to seek an MfD to delete the page, but there is nothing out-of-order in requesting an MfD, especially given the WikiProject's full awareness of it. Although suggestions are made that the "Task Force" might be revived, consensus in this case favors deletion for inactivity. While there are no general standards suggesting that deletion is (or is not) the appropriate remedy for an inactive page, the community always remains free to delete individual Project pages at its discretion, provided there is a reasonable consensus to do so in each case. Good-faith requests to revive the task force should be taken first to the WikiProject's talk page, but restoration is always available if they desire. Xoloz (talk) 15:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/Naruto

Inactive task force, and tagged as such. Practically no activity was ever done here aside from extremely new editors joining the project. However, there is no collaboration from editors on the project's talk page (which has practically nothing on it either). Practically every FL and GA associated with this project was written and collaborated on by non-project members. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 21:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Inactive workgroup that never actually did anything. --Farix (Talk) 14:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. —Farix (Talk) 14:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete As much as it pains this Naruto fan (although I watch the English anime only, but whatever), they haven't done much of anything. Two One Six Five Five ^{discuss my greatness} 19:55, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, inactive and not appearing to actually do anything of value Collectonian (talk) 21:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, inactive and has never done anything of value. --Coredesat 23:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete: Most of the work has been done through the parent Wikiproject, which seems willing to formally take back responsiblity. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
• Comment. Is it actually necessary to delete this? It's not in the main article space, and after all - there may not be an active group of Naruto fans running the project, but if there ever comes one, this looks like a useful place for them to start. --Gwern (contribs) 19:47 4 January 2008 (GMT)

• They can always go to the Anime and Manga Wikiproject, which has tags on all the relevant articles. —Quasirandom (talk) 23:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
• Given that the work group never did anything, is it really worth keeping the cruft around? --Farix (Talk) 02:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Keep - The Task Force has only existed since July and has more than 30 members, more than a lot of active Projects have, not all of whom are "extremely new editors" - two have joined since the project was marked as {{inactive}} and several other edits have been made to the page since then, so I'm not sure the tag or the argument to delete for inactivity is justified. This Task Force may have a scope issue, but then again, it's a Task Force!! Let it be or better yet, help it out. If the parent project wants to merge this back in, let it do that, it doesn't need permission from MfD for that. --Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 03:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Sephiroth BCR has a point, this taskforce really isn't as active as other manga/anime projects. May as well delete the redirects in the shortcut box, as well the userboxes, {{User TNTF}} & {{User TNTF2}}. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Might be interesting to try a simplified page per my suggestion here. At the very least, it would give us a sub-page to list all the Naurto specific articles and possible any todos. But since that would basically be a new page it really wouldn't matter if the current page was deleted or not. However, keeping the list of participants might be useful to anyone who's looking to bug fellow editors for future collaboration efforts. -- Ned Scott 05:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Not that I feel that strongly about it, and like I said, everything except the participants list would essentially be a new page, unrelated to this one. -- Ned Scott 05:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Hmm, there is already a category for the participants, and we could just add the category to the userpages of those who are on the list, but not in the category... I might just do that, in which case there really wouldn't be much left to keep. Although, redirects are cheap. *shrug* -- Ned Scott 05:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete as per all of the above. This task force is inactive as per Sephiroth BCR's reasons. Greg Jones II 19:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
• Mark as Historical Inactivity does not a bad task force make. The only acceptable reason to delete would be if the project (or task force) is "entirely undesireable". It is a well formed task force on a notable (I guess - I have no idea) subsection of anime (there are 5 other task forces of the Anime and manga Project. This way someone can revive the task force by removing the historical tag, otherwise, this is not hurting a damn thing by leaving alone.--12 Noon ^2¢ 21:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Comment - Not sure we should be deleting task forces unless they are completely inappropriate, leaving them instead to the Project to handle, they are subpages of the project and nothing in WP:TASKFORCE suggests any necessary level of activity or organization is required. Does the Project think this TF is of Zero value? If so, then let them say so (or let them just blank the page or use it for something else). If not, then let them mark it has historical, merge it into the parent, reorganize it for another purpose, or maybe even work to make it active. --Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 22:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• We were discussing it on WT:ANIME#WP:NARUTO, and that discussion lead to this MfD. So project participants should be aware of the MfD. -- Ned Scott 07:59, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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