Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Cat Lovers' Committee

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was No consensus---Keep. (27/36/17). Possible suggestions for renaming may have possibilities at gaining a consensus and may be discussed on the project talk page. — xaosflux ^Talk 03:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Cat Lovers' Committee

• Thoroughly unencyclopedic. Delete. Ral315 (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete It says This is a Committee made for cats, based on cats no no no no no --Doc ^ask? 00:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• BJAODN this madness. Or transwiki to MySpace. --InShaneee 00:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Many users like cats. It already has over 5 members. So I think it shouldn't be deleted General Eisenhower 21:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

We should keep it because it has 10 members.Paleo G

• Keep. What is wrong with an organisation that wants to improve a certain group of articles? This is effectively Wikiproject:Cats, just with a different name. And it has only just started. Give it a little time before deciding on how "encyclopaedic" it is. Batmanand | Talk 00:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC) Fait enough, I was not aware of the cat breeds Wikiproject. Delete. Batmanand | Talk 00:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete this is more like a social club (hey, let's talk about awesomykittens) than a wikiproject. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 00:12, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  Moreover, wikiprojects are open to all wikipedians. This is tailored only to people who love cats. If I dislike cats, can I join the Cat's Lovers Comittee? Can't I edit Cat's articles? -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 00:20, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  Yes you can join the committee and edit the articles, there is a level of obsession. if you hate cats, its -5. You can still be part of the group! --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 00:51, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  I agree with George Money. Paleo G

• Delete. Once deleted the defuct {{user cat lovers committee}}, {{user cat lovers committee join}} and {{user cat lovers committee join2}} should be deleted also. If they want to group together to improve the encyclpedia: Wikipedia:WikiProject Cat breeds.--Commander Keane 00:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• I was going to say that they could form a WikiProject, but since there is one already (inactive, but existent), this page should be deleted. If they want the funny name, merge the two pages and then move back here, but this page is a no-no. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 00:19, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  It's got 10 members. Paleo G

• Keep. This is a group to help with cat-related articles. That is completely encylopedic. It is a collection of cat information that is useful. The mani reason for this group is cat-related ARTICLES (as in WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES)

  -My Retaliations to previous comments:

  • To Doc: This Committee will have cat experts, cat lovers, cat fanatics, and cat pictures to help with Wikipedia articles. After all, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia.- how can you call that unencyclopedic? When you quoted the page where it says "This is a Committee made for cats, based on cats", you quoted it out of context.
  • To Drini: this isn't a project that is based on talking about how cute kittens are and making friends because people like kittens. There is a designated subpage for discussion, but that is just a subpage.
  • To Commander Keane and Batmanand: this isn't mainly about "cat-breeds". Cat breeds aren't really important in improving cat articles..

  If you delete this page, you might as well delete Wikipedia:Birthday_Committee another un-official group. And that one doesn't help the encyclopedia at all. All it does is wish people happy birthdays. What does that help? At least the Wikipedia Cat Lovers Committee actually contributes to and helps the encyclopedia!--GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 00:51, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

• Start a wikiproject:Cats - for people who want to edit cat articles (whether they love, hate or screw cats) and no-one will have a problem. --Doc ^ask? 00:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Suggested compromise How about the page is moved to Wikipedia:Wikiproject cats, and the page is rewritten to make it sound more "encyclopaedic" and less "fluffy"? Batmanand | Talk 01:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or suggested compromise above. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 01:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  I'm OK with that, providing all references to 'cat loving' are removed. It must be for any user who wants to improve feline articles. --Doc ^ask? 01:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep ILovEPlankton 01:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Move to Wikiproject Cats and make it sound more like a Wikiproject than group of people who like cats. _-M ^o P-_ 01:29, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete this ditsy crap or reconstitute as a proper encyclopedic project under Wikipedia:WikiProject Mammals. See for example Wikipedia:WikiProject Dog breeds for how to run an encyclopedic project on subjects like this. --Tony Sidaway 01:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  Civility please, to everyone but to Tony in particular. Batmanand | Talk 01:51, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  Frankly, I think "ditsy crap" is an appropriate description. It reads like a bad Geocities site.Ral315 (talk) 02:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  There are politer way of expressing the view that you hold, regardless of its validity. Please have some respect for those that created this page. Batmanand | Talk 02:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete or re-focus per Tony Sidaway. This is an encyclopedia, not LiveJournal or MySpace. --Cyde Weys 01:40, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Cyde. —Khoikhoi 01:54, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. or turn this into a Wikiproject like Master of Puppets said Copysan 02:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as there is no reason to have this. There are other more appropriate groups for cats out there. Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Cat breeds and you'll see why this group is useless. Colin Keigher 03:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  Cat breeds have nothing to do with the group --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 00:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep since cats kick ass! It'll pick up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superior1 (talk • contribs)
• commentPlease stop putting links to cat breeds. Thank You, --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 05:17, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  See WP:POINT. --InShaneee 19:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• I thought it was a fun idea when I was invited to join, but I am also forced to admit that fun is not what Wikipedia is about. Then again, there are some pretty strange things on Wikipedia and all this is apparently doing is assembling a group of cat lovers. It still seems pretty harmless to me. Very reluctantly Delete. Then again I would like to Keep it, so I'm not sure if you can count my vote either way! --Historian 05:57, 17 April 2006 (UTC) P.S. As there is already a cat-egory for Cat Lovers I think the committee is unnecessary after all. Delete --Historian 08:52, 17 April 2006 (UTC) Wait, change that back to Keep just because Carnildo says Delete. --Historian 23:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

  What is your real vote. Keep or delete? --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 01:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

  It all depends on Carnildo. As long as he votes delete I shall vote Keep because I don't like his bot User:OrphanBot. But the whole thing is now so impossibly silly that I really don't care any more. --Historian 05:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

  I find this comment so absurd as not merit any sort of response, but I'll do so anyway because I'm a glutton for the absurd. First, "because the other guy did the opposite" is not any sort of valid deletion rationale, and your comment will be safely ignored in the final decision whether to keep or delete this page (I'll be thoroughly dissapointed if it isn't. Don't dissapoint me, please.) Secondly, your dislike of OrphanBot is entirely without basis.--Sean Black ^(talk?) 06:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

  I agree. Please vote on the merits of the proposed deletion, not on personal grounds... ConDem^Talk 10:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

  Oh, because Carnildo voted Delete. Sure. And it has nothing to do with a certain Sergeant's criticism of your betrayal? S.S

  Nothing at all, sorry to disappoint you. I don't mind Carnildo, but his bot which goes around wikipedia removing images uploaded in good faith on a "guilty until proved innocent" basis is an abomination, a Frankenstein, a monster. Just look at how "popular" it is: User_talk:OrphanBot In short my vote is to Keep (as a protest against that bot!). --Historian 12:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

  Funny how you only changed your mind after I left that note on your talk page...I also notice you have removed my second comment on your page...S.S, 14:19, 22 of April 2006 (UTC)

  *Sigh*. Yes, I removed your comment because it was both rude and tiresome. And if you persist in being both of these things I will change my vote back to Delete. Cheers! --Historian 22:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

  Then delete both, please, instead of engineering it to look as if you had the last word. If that's not rude, tiresome and downright pretentious, I don't know what is. And don't you ever threaten me again, Historian, because that's just cowardly. Cheers! Sergeant Snopake 23:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC) 22 of April 2006

  Delete--Historian 01:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Wikipedia is not Livejournal. --Carnildo 07:41, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• KeepThis is to improve articles about cats.No,I take that back, I vote delete.This is more like myspace, not Wikipedia.--Happycat93 11:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Happycat93
• Meow (keep) (Keep) Sceptre ^(Talk) 13:09, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - my obsession level is somwhere around 4, but I still think it has nothing to do with Wikipedia. Renata 14:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Send through grain thresher, then delete in favor of the much more adult and responsible wikiproject. Barno 15:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, but reimagine Perfectly valid project, as there is much more to cat-care than just breeds and breeding. The project should be made a bit more sober, however. Cat-keeping, an ancient practice, is expansive and encyclopedic; fawning over one's cat isn't. Xoloz 15:30, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  Did you read my comment? I said that this project has NOTHING to do with breeds and breeding. I know alot of people who try to get pure bred cats and reject other cats, that's mean to regular cats because they are denying the regular cats a home so they can have a pure bred, and they treat regular cats like trash. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 18:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  Please stop shouting. People will be less likely, not more, to read something all in capitals. Batmanand | Talk 18:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  What? Xoloz is agreeing with you: "there is much more to cat-care than breeds and breeding." (emphasis mine) Perhaps you should (re)read his comment. FreplySpang (talk) 13:25, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per above. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 20:53, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. AmiDaniel (Talk) 00:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. Black and White^USER_TALK^CONTRIBS 01:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• comment. If you delete this page, then you HAVE to delete Wikipedia:WikiProject_Graffiti, because it is less encyclopedic than the committee to help cat articles. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Graffiti is about gangsters putting graffiti everywhere. All the reasons about being unencyclopedic apply more to that page. Wikipedia isn't about graffiti. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeMoney (talk • contribs)

  Actually, it is, among other things. --InShaneee 04:37, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep For all you know, this may generate a great article on the American alleycat. Why delete? Septentrionalis 04:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

  The problem is that this page is nothing more than a "cat fans club". We already have a Cat Wikiproject, for improving cat articles. Ral315 (talk) 05:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

  Thank you, I have read the page; I do not choose to join the Committee. But why not leave them alone? Septentrionalis 05:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

  Because Wikipedia is not a free webhost, or a place to create clubs, or whatever. The primary goal of EVERYTHING on Wikipedia needs to be creating an encyclopedia. Ral315 (talk) 05:15, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

  More effort has been spent on this debate than is ever likely to be forced out of the members of the Committee by this deletion. Septentrionalis 05:51, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Suggested Compromise. Why not move it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Cats. It will be the same group (a group to help cat articles), but just a less social-club like name. Nobody will lose their membership. The whole committee is fine, except for the name, because it sounds too much like a social club. The purpose of the committee can stay. P.S. Please don't move it to Wikiproject Catbreeds. The committee isn't about breeds. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 07:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

  Comment The whole committee isn't fine, that's the whole reason this is up here. The entire 'list you level of cat obsession' section does nothing to help the encylopedia. --InShaneee 15:47, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - are there actually any people who are interested in contributing to a non-fan-club WikiProject Cats? I mean, one without the "cats are cool!" and the "I'm soo obsessed with cats I wish I was one?" I'm not sure that it's worth the effort of renaming/de-fawning the project. FreplySpang (talk) 13:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete A formalized association between Wikipians who love cats has nothing to do with building Wikipedia. --ElectricEye 16:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep People interested in cats can contribute to valuable articles related to this topic. Jasra 16:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless this becomes a formal cat WikiProject. Johnleemk | Talk 19:01, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• KEEP How bad could this be??? You don't even have to like cats! Jeez, Wikipedia is not this strict. Let them keep it, and I would like to join too. The ed17 19:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC) (talk)
• Delete unless this is made until a normal, formal wikiproject for cat articles per Tony, Johnlee and a few others. JoshuaZ 20:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. While funny, this really is not needed. And I like cats. All breeds of them. Even Persians. Kelly Martin (talk) 20:47, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete This is just a cat fanciers club, and I also love cats. I think this should be deleted, and a more normal Wikiproject created. There's a lot of potential material, breeds...breeding history, cat behavior. But it really should be normalized into a project. Rx StrangeLove 21:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete (unless they leave a substantial pet deposit). --Gmaxwell 21:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, per everyone else. To turn this into a proper WikiProject, one would have to overhaul it so thouroughly that the prior history would be meaningless. If someone wants to create a Cats WikiProject, that person should do so, but this social networking silliness should just go away as quickly as possible.--Sean Black ^(talk)
• Keep TINMC Ashibaka tock 22:15, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I don't see how this committee can improve the quality of cat-related articles. I encourage its members to revive WikiProject Cat Breeds. --TantalumTelluride 23:48, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete There's already a category. And a cat breeds project. Before anyone starts shouting, I understand that this project is not meant to have anything to do with breeds or breeding, but in my view, that doesn't leave a lot of scope for adding useful things to articles. A more encyclopedic cat project might be appropriate. ConDem^Talk 02:53, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. If we've already got a cat breeds Wikiproject, just tell them to go there. Mr. Fiver 02:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Dameon 03:14, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, definately keep!! What is this place coming to, when we can't have a committe for cat lovers? And, it's not just a club for people to hang around and talk about 'awesomy kittens' (thanks for that, Drini), but a committee with the express purpose of having cat experts, cat lovers, cat fanatics, and cat pictures to help with Wikipedia articles! I appreciate that we already have Wikipedia:WikiProject Cat breeds, but incase you haven't noticed, this WikiProject is believed to be inactive. This is just a committee that wants to help expand wikipedia, and I see nothing wrong with that. Stop being so narrow minded. And what's more, it's all very well to say wikipedia is about Wikipedia:WikiProject_Graffiti (among other things), it's just as much about cats. It's an encyclopedia, for Christ's sake! At least give us a chance to prove our worth and then think about deleting us. Sergeant Snopake, 16:58, 19th of April 2006 (UTC)

  comment If that project is inactive the solution is for users to revitalize that project, not to make this new un-encyclopedic club. JoshuaZ 21:51, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep At least compromise and place it wherever deemed by all most appropriate. cats can be pretty important entities, where would we be without thomas hobbes' faithful feline? Hikinthru
• Delete I mean... come on... this is an encyclopedia, not a fourth-grade aafter school club. American Patriot 1776 21:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or reconstitute to something encyclopedic per Batmanand or Tony Sidaway. As it is, this Wikiproject is not appropriate. bcasterline t 22:06, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

  comment Please, it's trying to help wikipedia, not just be a fourth-grade aafter school club! Baaa... (This is not a personal attack. It's just a joke. But no joke is any less serious for being a joke.) Sergeant Snopake, 22:48, 20th of April 2006, (UTC)

  I'm sure it was created in good faith. All the same, it's unencyclopedic and doesn't belong on Wikipedia. bcasterline t 22:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

  Indeed, I'm sure it was created in good faith but as per above, it doesn't have a place here. I would also suggest changing the name or restarting an old cat Wikiproject. American Patriot 1776 19:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Doesn't belong on wikipedia, but definitely created in good faith. DarthVader 00:58, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. As already suggested, why not transform this into a new WikiProject? Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cat_breeds seems to be focused on breeds/show cats/etc. This "kitten-hugging-committee" might actually evolve into a half-decent WikiProject. --LuciferBlack 06:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. But in keeping with NPOV and all that, rename to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cats_and_Humans or Project_Cats_(Domestic). The purpose is to work not on pages about particular breeds or show cats, but on cats as companions, cats as domestic animals, cats in literature, etc. Use Wikipedia:WikiProject_Philosophy or something similar as a model (including its version of a “members’ list”). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Goclenius (talk • contribs) 13:13, April 21, 2006.
• Comment - I don't see the problem, provided they are prepared to change the name to Wikipedia:Wikiproject_Cats (or something similar) and they really do contribute to the articles on cats, as opposed to just running a social club or support group. If they're prepared to compromise, I don't want to curtail their enthusiasm. Oh, and it would also make them seem more credible if they stopped shouting. Metamagician3000 13:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Move to Wikiproject: Cats and Remove unnessecary cat-loving fluff. - Pureblade | ^Θ 14:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Should be moved to a a Wikiproject however. My Russian Blue would be displeased by this' deletion. --maru (talk)

contribs 20:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

• There's already a Wikipedia:WikiProject Cat breeds that fulfills this purpose. Borisblue 03:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Borisblue 03:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
• Move to Wikipedia:Wikiproject cats and merge it with the seemingly defunct Wikipedia:WikiProject Cat breeds to make it a more comprehensive, more encyclopedic wikiproject on cats. -eniarrol- 12:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as a WikiProject per above. —Locke Cole • t • c 07:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, but I think it should be moved to WikiProject. If this was deleted, my cats would want revenge. --Oreos 17:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

  What he said. Paleo G

  I'm a she. -_- Yet it still SHOULD stay, or be moved to wikiproject. --Oreos 22:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep It has 10 members. If you do delete the page I will recreate the same page as one of my subpages and then it IS allowed. Paleo G
• Delete - From the way this discussion is going, it doesn't seem like the members of this group (for the most part) would be interested in participating in a non-fluffy WikiProject Cats. (I note that they haven't been contributing much, or at all, to cat-related articles.) It's not a bad subject for a WikiProject, but if nobody is currently up for working on it, why bother? FreplySpang (talk) 23:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

  Comment Very good point, I agree with FreplySpang. If nobody will be working on cat articles and such, the group degenerates into a club of people who like cats, which isn't allowed per Wikipedia:No Club of Cat Lovers. _-M ^o P-_ 23:24, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

  People from our group are contributing. Plus, there are many things the committee has to do before they start contributing at a rate of 10 edits/minute. One thing they have to do is not get deleted. Another thing is that they have to settle in; the committee is only a week old; give it some time. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 23:37, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

  Actually, no. With or without a "committee," any of you could add a fact or two to Cat or comment on Talk:Cat (for example). If some of you had done this kind of thing, it would really make you (as a group) look more like you're interested in working on articles. FreplySpang (talk) 23:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

  Comment If the dog lovers here would just get off our backs for a month, I'm sure we could do some good. Wine is just grape juice that has been allowed to age properly. That being said, we really need to drop the fluff and form a serious WikiProject; one that can do more than just exchange kitty pics. --LuciferBlack 04:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, becuse I love cats, and they need they space, made my wikipedians cat lovers. Sarah sofía 02:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment A cat related article has been created by this committee, you know.
  

Sergeant Snopake 09:10, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per Freplyspang. The most vocal defender of this page seems to avoid cat like the plague. None of his last 500 edits were too the article. Kimchi.sg | talk 09:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Nothing I've seen thus far tells me this is a committee organized to improve cat-related articles. Cats are cute and fun and nice to have as pets, but this committee seems to exist primarily to get more members. It's a social club, get rid of it. Tall Girl 12:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: Note that a number a users who were expected to be in favour of keeping were solicited to vote in this poll; see User talk:Pathoschild#Bulk_spam_and_vote-stacking. // [admin] Pathoschild (^talk/_map) 14:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment These users are not herd animals; they do have their own opinions and the power to make their own decisions. No one put a gun to their head. See Tall Girl (diff) for confirmation.
  

Sergeant Snopake 15:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Soliciting votes on AfDs disrupts attempts to get a reasonable discussion that represents a decent cross section of Wikipedians. This is why is it strongly frowned upon. JoshuaZ 15:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep: useful for generating quality content and facilitating a sense of common purpose and collegiality among wikipedia editors. Interestingstuffadder 16:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep: Having such a group encourages more editing on cats. I am a member of the dog project, and because of this I feel a certain responsibility to do regular editing on dog breed articles (and yes, I relize that there's a cat project too). However, the committee might want to focuse more on article editing, rather than to "Add raw data about cats" (it only has one piece of "raw data" there anyway).

Pharaoh Hound 20:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

• Merge with Wikipedia:WikiProject Cat breeds. Since cat breeds is **inactive** and this is **active**, let 'em just move in and take over --there's no one there to care, and we need someone doing cat updates on Wikipedia. Alba 21:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. When will this discussion be over? It has been going on for a week now. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 02:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete or Overhaul. This article could be turned into a wikiproject, such as others have suggested, but in its current form it is a ridiculous excuse for an encyclopedia entry. It's a message board!DougOfDoom ^talk 02:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. You may ask why? The reason is a cat is being ignored and somewhat portrayed ‎negatively in pop culture in comparison to a dog. Maybe this negative attitude toward the ‎cats has its roots somewhere in Europe but this highly useful domestic animal is ‎definitely being ignored when compared to the dogs.‎ Szhaider 04:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I see this as essentially a nascent WikiProject:Cats. Remember, these are 'cat lovers' we're talking about here; they're not going to be organized all at once. Give them time. Herostratus 06:34, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Harmless. --Dragon695 06:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and move to Wikiproject cats. Page has some legitimate material. Andjam 07:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

delete it as quick as possible... please.........cat lovers can for ma forum on many other free websites like yahoo group etc...

Keep Cats are people too, and great companions

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