Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:JimmySan

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was speedy keep. Seriously, geez. Thanks/wangi 11:29, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:JimmySan

Violation of WP:NOT. He is using it as a dating service provider/webspace. James, La gloria è a dio 03:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete--James, La gloria è a dio 03:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Here, here! Gutworth (talk) 03:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep So he gave a description of himself on his user page - so what. New user - give him a chance and don't WP:BITE. --130.15.219.160 04:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete word "hot" keep the rest. A one sentence bio is precisely what WP:UP says you can have on your page (I should know, I wrote that part of wp:up) But calling him hot is POV. -N 11:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • The account has existed for a week and has zero contributions outside of this single page. Wikipedia is not a free hosting service for autobiographies of people who are not actually contributing to the project. Unless contributions appear, delete. Uncle G 11:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Crunch13 14:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I deleted the word hot. Crunch13 15:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
    • I was being sarcastic. -N 10:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete- per WP:NOT. Eddie 21:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • You gotta be kidding. MFD for this? If you don't like it, blank it. Friday (talk) 21:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Don't be ridiculous, thats hardly a violation of WP:NOT considering it is one sentence. He may only have one edit to that page but that doesn't mean he isn't going to edit at some point in the future, and it is only 1 edit, not the thousands that some people have (Hence wikipedia is not myspace). The inclusion of "hot" is POV, yes but it is his userpage and he can write what he likes about himself within reason - I believe Rama's Arrow has "Just a sexy boy" after his sig and I doubt you are going to start chasing after him for that. This really is a waste of time. ViridaeTalk 02:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. For God's sake, this is ludicrous. I will make it my solemn duty to ensure anyone who believes this ought to be deleted will never become an admin, for exhibiting rank failure to assume good faith, an appalling lack of common sense, and a terrible attitude towards new editors. If he wants to describe himself as hot, let him. In fact, I'm going to describe myself as hot on my user page. I may even give out my a/s/l. Neil ╦ 09:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Hear hear. ViridaeTalk 09:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Ahem! It is you who is assuming bad faith, here.

      My rationale in deletion discussions of user pages has not changed in three years, and is not based upon assumptions of anything, let alone assumptions of bad faith. It certainly has nothing to do with the word "hot". It are based, and always has been based, firmly upon Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, in particular that Wikipedia is not a free hosting service. If someone has zero contributions to the project other than edits to xyr user page, then the user page should be deleted. One doesn't gain the privilege of a user page simply by dint of creating an account. One has to actually contribute to the project.

      Furthermore: This is nothing to do with biting newbies. As my rationale has always been, and as explicitly stated above, the existence of contributions elsewhere by the time of the closure of this MFD discussion will be enough to change my opinion. A closing administrator can easily apply my rationale to the circumstances as they exist at closure. This is why proper rationales, that closing administrators can employ to determine what an editor's opinion at closure would be, are good things, and bare votes are bad.

      As Friday points out below, your overreaction here is silly. Uncle G 15:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

  • WTF? - Since when do we nominate user pages for deletion over... what? Claiming that one is "hot"? Get real. Nominating this page for deletion is not a service to Wikipedia. -GTBacchus(talk) 10:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
    • By the way, nominating an editor's user page for deletion without even talking to the person first is one of the most obnoxious acts I've seen on this wiki. -GTBacchus(talk) 10:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Wait... this user made 1 contribution to the project while logged, but that was yesterday. Consider deleting it in a few months if he never contributes. But deleting it the day of its creation is WP:BITE at best. -- lucasbfr talk 10:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - No reason to ever delete a user page so soon after it's creation unless it is an attack page or involves clear vandalism. --After Midnight 0001 12:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Let's not get too excited. Sure, normally standard procedure would be talking to the user whose page it is. However there is zero indication that this person is anything resembling an active editor. As for having some vendetta against anyone who says delete, that's just plain silly. User pages exist at all only at the consent of editors. Friday (talk) 14:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I am very strongly tempted to close this myself before any more time is wasted on it. I've done more sorting through silly user pages than the rest of you combined, and JimmySan's page is par for the course - I could easily find dozens like it from the Special:Newpages in the user namespace. Enough already. YechielMan 16:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and please Yechiel go ahead and close this. Not in a million years would I have thought this was an example of using Wikipedia as a dating service. I mean...the guy's page gets MFD'd minutes after he writes a single sentence? Wonderful way to greet a new Wikipedian. Risker 17:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - What's next? We add "Wikipedia is not an online encyclopedia" into WP:NOT? So if I put "Cool Blue is a caucasian from Canton, Ohio", you're going to tag it as eHarmony on wheels? Wikipedia is the last place I'd come to search for my soulmate... Cool Bluetalk to me 20:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep since nominantor just failed an RfA due to WP:SNOW, I'm concerned his recent MfDs for otherwise non-existence user accounts are subtle sock accounts in order to show activity on policy issues... 74.107.35.253 03:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment, I can see the problem with users making Wikipedia pages into MySpace pages... and the fact that this is the user's only edit gives me little sympathy for if it's deleted. But, I would like to make it clear that I think users who substantially contribute to the project should be allowed to keep music / film / etc. lists on their user space which will link to articles of things they are interested in. So, if admins want to take (waste?) the time deleting user pages of editors with relatively no contributions that's fine but User:Raul654, me, and other substantial users with not-directly-encyclopedic-possibly-myspace-like-things should not be bothered by it. gren グレン 06:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep This is outrageous. And outrageously funny. Get this guy on IRC, he's a legend there. By the way, the nomination, and all delete arguments, are obvious bollocks, he's not breaking any rules. - G1ggy Talk/Contribs 06:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm a bit concerned about WP:BITE when we have such new users -- if the guy goes a few weeks/months and makes no edits, we can pretty safely assume he's not coming back, and just prod the page. The first few experiences of new editors are important, though -- in this case, it looks like we're jumping on the guy not even 24 hours after he's joined the project. – Luna Santin (talk) 06:57, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Could we just agree to 'common sense' guidelines of something like "if you have less than ~250 edits and haven't edited for ~a month then an admin can delete your userpage if they find it to be used as personal hosting". I think that address WP:BITE, WP:NOT, and people who fear for their own pages. gren グレン 06:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Something along those lines sounds fine by me. I might prefer "edited exclusively in userspace" (or perhaps very nearly so) if this is a speedy deletion crit, we're talking about, but those are details to be worked out elsewhere, probably. – Luna Santin (talk) 07:29, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • ONE DAY. His first edit was on the twelfth, you nominated his userpage for deletion on the thirteenth. No wonder he didn't come back. WP:BITE, anyone? But seriously, what's the procedure for a speedy keep? --Random832 06:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - calling yourself hot is not using Wikipedia as a dating service. Way, way premature there. --Haemo 07:45, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I over reacted here. Sorry.--Sir James Paul 09:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Extremly strong keep --58.165.164.181 10:45, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.