Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Jewish question (disambiguation)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was duplicate nomination/wrong venue. This discussion is also going forward at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jewish question (disambiguation) and should be continued there. — Gavia immer (talk) 13:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC) Update: discussion at the linked page concluded with a result of "keep". See the link for further information. — Gavia immer (talk) 13:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish question (disambiguation)

The user clearly fails to understand the purpose of disambiguation pages. There is nothing to disambiguate.`'Míkka>t 15:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

• Note. Apparently this debate is also going on here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jewish question (disambiguation)

This debate has been moved to Afd, above, and should be continued there and not here. 199.125.109.99 (talk) 04:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

With all due respects, Mikkalai, we have these three(3) related articles which causes much confusion: :* (1) The Jewish question, or Jewish question, regarding the status of Jews within Christian Europe with respect to their disabilities and emancipation, particularly in the Ninteenth Century, after the French Revolution.

• (2) On The Jewish Question, a 1843 text, or compilation of writings, particularly his critisism of Bruno Bauer's prior 1843 text, or essay, On the Jewish Question.

• (3) Final solution to the Jewishish question, or Final solution in brief, which means the extermination of Jews, or the holocaust, during World War II, as executed after the Wannsee Conference.:--Ludvikus (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Here's the latest expantion/correction: The Jewish question, Jewish question, means, makes reference to, or implies the following:

• The Jewish question, or Jewish question, regarding the status of Jews within Christian Europe with respect to their disabilities and emancipation, particularly in the Ninteenth Century, after the French Revolution.

• The Jewish Quesion, the 1843 text by Bruno Bauer upon which Karl Marx had written his his On The Jewish Question.

• On The Jewish Question, a 1843 text, or compilation of writings, by Karl Marx, particularly his critisism of Bruno Bauer's prior 1843 text, or essay, On the Jewish Question.

• A World Without Jews, the 1959 compilation, rendition, imprint, in book form, English translation, by which Marx's said writing(s) is/are known.

• Final solution to the Jewishish question, or Final solution in brief, which means the extermination of Jews, or the holocaust, during World War II, as executed after the Wannsee Conference.

• --Ludvikus (talk) 18:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
  • This ""latest correction is wrong: "Jewish question" does not "means, makes reference or implies" "On The Jewish Question" User:Mikkallai (forgot to sign)
    • There is also this for us to consider: Final Solution (disambiguation) --Ludvikus (talk) 21:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
  • With all due respect, please read and understand wikipedia:Disambiguation. While it is true that people may confuse very many different things, disambig pages have a clearly described purpose: do navigate between articles whose topics have or may have the same name. Now, "On The Jewish Question" is not the same name as "Jewish Question". Mukadderat (talk) 16:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

• Delete. Not a disambig page. Mukadderat (talk) 16:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
• Strong keep. But willing to consider alternatives: {{Merge}}, etc.--Ludvikus (talk) 17:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Here's exactly the wording of WP:Disambiguation policy "a single term can be associated with more than one topic, making that term likely to be the natural title for more than one article. In other words, disambiguations are paths leading to different article pages which could, in principle, have the same title."
• keep All things link to are things that have very similar names. Someone could type in "Jewish Question" and be looking for any of these. It is thus an appropriate dab page. JoshuaZ (talk) 17:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
  • We don't disambig "very similar". We don't put America and Great America in the same page We have separate In America (disambiguation). Sopmeone can type anything they want, but we cannot read their mind. We don't put Garveyard and In A Graveyard in the same disambig page. `'Míkka>t 17:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
    • We do disabmbig very similar stuff. See for example Expulsion. JoshuaZ (talk) 18:23, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
    • OK. I propose a compromise: Jewish question should be a main article. And let's use the WP:Template in each of these extremely related articles' - "What to do with the Jews" or "What is to be done - to the Jews" the template: {{Main|X}}? --Ludvikus (talk) 18:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
    • And here's another compromise proposal:
      Not to be confused with Jewish question (disambiguation), Jewish Question, or Final solution to the Jewish question.
      --Ludvikus (talk) 18:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep tend to agree with JoshuaZ. This disambiguation seems reasonable. M0RD00R (talk) 19:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
• Why is this at MfD? This is in article space, and therefore should be at AfD, shouldn't it? seresin ( ¡? ) 22:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
  • But it's not an article, the page is MfD/Jq, not AfD/Jq, and if it was listed there it messes up the headers. Maybe an AfD/Jq can be created and close this one saying the result was moved to Afd. MrKIA11 (talk) 23:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep These are all reasonable possibilities that a user might be looking for when typing "Jewish question" into the search box, which is exactly the purpose of a dab page. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 06:22, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep for a very simple reason: There are three articles, Jewish question, The Jewish Question (essay) and On The Jewish Question that use the phrase "Jewish Question" in the heading so that having a disambiguation page for them is legitimate. I cleaned up the page and removed redirects. IZAK (talk) 10:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. IZAK (talk) 10:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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