Archive for January 2008

Archiveing

Do you archive user talk pages? If so, I'd like you to archive the messages on my User Talk page by month. Thanks!--Universal Studios Number 1 Fan (talk) 03:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Black Eyed Peas: The Chart History

Hiya. Could you delete and salt this article? The creator just keeps removing the speedy tags. Thanks. Chris (talk) 16:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

ANI size

Would there be any possibility of you implementing a feature which archives threads more quickly if they contain the {{resolved}} template? —Random832 20:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Should I add that to the FAQ or something? I'm working on it. There is a possibility, but needs a major rewrite of the bot, which is in progress. Миша13 20:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: My userpage

Thanks for the reversion! Also, nice to see you around again! ;) Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 04:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

archive box

Does this bot also normally make the little archive box in the upper right corner? Or is this something I have to do myself?--Rockfang (talk) 20:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

No, it doesn't, but if you use standard archive naming (/Archive N) you can just put {{archivebox|auto=yes}} and it will handle that automagically. Миша13 20:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info.--Rockfang (talk) 20:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

A request for your consideration regarding CAT:AOTR

Deleted historical television logos

I feel like a doofus, but a over a month ago I had gotten a bunch of logos restored in order to add fair use rationales, but then only managed to get around to fixing about half of them. Now I see that the ones I didn't fix got deleted again (so much for "There is no deadline"), so I was wondering if you could please restore them again so I can finish up with the rationales and add them back to the appropriate pages.

• The images, and the articles for which they are to be used, are as follows:
  • Image:FOX11- 1991.jpg in KTTV
  • Image:Cbs89 a.jpg and Image:Cbs90 a.jpg in Get Ready for CBS
  • Image:Cbs88.jpg in CBS: Television You Can Feel
  • Image:Cbs86 a.jpg, Image:Cbs86 b.jpg and Image:Cbs87 a.jpg in Share the Spirit of CBS/CBSpirit
  • Image:Abc90 a.jpg and Image:Abc91 a.jpg in America's Watching ABC
  • Image:Abc87 a.jpg, Image:Abc88 a.jpg and Image:Abc89.jpg in Something's Happening on ABC
  • Image:Abc86 a.jpg in Together (ABC Television Network)

The rationale I intend to add for each of these is:

• Fair use rationale for use in the article [[{article link}]]:

• It contributes significantly to the article, by providing historical information about the network's branding in a way that text cannot;
• It was widely distributed without charge for the purposes of promotion and advertising;
• No free alternative can be made of this copyrighted logo image which would adequately give the same information;
• It is low resolution and does not supplant any market role of the image; and
• It is only used for informational and educational purposes.

Thank you so much for your time. DHowell (talk) 08:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. Apart from writing rationales, remember to actually include the images in articles - the all got deleted because they were orphaned fair use images. Миша13 14:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Bug report - pywikipedia

Report here. Thanks, Mønobi 02:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Undelete

Hello, is it possible to undelete Image:Photoshop CS3 screenshot.png? The image was removed from the article by an IP here for no reason (probably anti Mac), and I was not notified that it was unused, and could not vouch for it. ALTON .ıl 23:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:PW newsletter

Newsletter for delivery. Thank you! The Chronic 00:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Umm... it appears MiszaBot sent out the wrong newsletter. It sent out the first issue instead of the current. Thought you should know. The Chronic 00:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Um, shit happens - I was kinda tired yesterday - when I get back home, I'll run the bot to replace it with the current issue. Sorry 'bout that. Миша13 10:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

In case you'd not noticed :(

[1] :( --Doc^g 23:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Bloody brilliant. Apparently the devs weigh consensus differently than the rest of Wikipedia (the original proposal was deemed rejected). At least this solution is smarter than some completely missed ideas and I can only hope that it will cause less problems than it solves. Миша13 23:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Problem is now that since there's no agreed policy, it is a free-for-all. I can grant and remove this as I want. Screw consensus, eh? :(--Doc^g 23:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

fnord. Enough for today, I'm going to sleep now. Миша13 23:46, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Archieveing

Thanks for archeiveing my user talk page. Could you please post a link to the archives on my talk page as well? Thanks!--Universal Studios Number 1 Fan (talk) 01:52, 10 January 2008 (UTC) Since you don't use a standard /Archive N naming scheme, you'll have to maintain the links on your own - please read about the {{archivebox}} template. Миша13 10:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

wrestling project newsletter

Why was I was sent the first one again? --Crash Underride 02:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

How...

Hey, how did you do this? :-o -- Mentifisto 09:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

zomgmagic. Миша13 10:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I wasn't referring to a simple font... it's the history when you did it, the very entry is altered... -- Mentifisto 11:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not about a font - it's about a character I have inserted into the page code. And in the edit summary as well - that's why it looks distorted as well. Миша13 12:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm trying it here but the distorted edit summary isn't working. :-| -- Mentifisto 12:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

You need to insert the character itself, not a HTML entity (which is 7 characters) that represents it. Миша13 12:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Um, what's the character itself? I just can't seem to succeed in doing it. :-/ -- Mentifisto 13:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Exactly the one I have pointed out - unicode character with a code of #202E hexadecimally, 8283 decimally - you need to google on how to input arbitrary unicode characters as it depends on your operating system and browser. Миша13 13:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually I found the character in charmap and it's just not appearing... some font problem. -- Mentifisto 13:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, brings back memories. My whole watchlist was backwards because of that article :0 ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 13:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Haha, you use it to 'encrypt' your userpage. Nice trick! :-D -- Mentifisto 03:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

The Current Events Barnstar!

		The Current Events Barnstar
		This Current Events Barnstar goes to Misza13 for outstanding contributions in helping to bring Wikinews and Wikipedia closer together through the workings of the Wikinews Importer Bot! RichardF (talk) 17:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I second that! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Third! Cirt (talk) 18:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC).

I also appreciate your efforts here. I'm gald wikinews↔Wikipedia cooperation is increasing. Bawolff (talk) 20:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

right to resist

discussion was not over, and many admins present. This is getting frustrating; maybe RFM? Xavexgoem (talk) 17:28, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Over or not, the page has been deleted under a different policy (with some plain old common sense), thus the MfD became immaterial, so I closed it. Quite natural. Миша13 17:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. Please consider reopening the discussion. CSD T1 does not apply to userspace as the criteria for speedy deletion explicitly state. Regards, IronGargoyle (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

T1 applies to templates. That page checks out as a template for me, is inflammatory enough and on top of that just plainly doesn't belong here. Миша13 17:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

There is no consensus for that interpretation and it has been repeatedly rejected by the community as I am sure you are very much aware. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

the DRV closed it and kept the template; MfD is closed and template gone with it. These are seperate. There was active discussion going on and could have been resolved. Please reopen. Xavexgoem (talk) 17:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but there's too much process wonkery in your comment and no merit at all. Миша13 17:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I apologize for being short: what is the merit of an admin, who had not casted a vote in an open review, jumping in and deleting the MfD along with the template with at least 3 other editors and 4 other admins present at an ongoing discussion? This could have been resolved. Xavexgoem (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

You're more elaborate now, but you've evaded the merit again. All I see is talk about process (which I am only making simple) while the merit is whether the page belongs here in the first place. So what that other admins were present? The matter is resolved (or at least, it were until it was yet again needlessly resurrected on DRV). Миша13 17:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

And I apologize again. Please don't hit that strawman. Xavexgoem (talk) 17:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

DRV of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:MQDuck/userboxes/Right To Resist

An editor has asked for a deletion review of User:MQDuck/userboxes/Right To Resist. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Equazcion •✗/C • 17:33, 12 Jan 2008 (UTC) 17:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Didn't mean to offend BTW

I hope you'll understand my comments were meant as rhetoric to advance an argument, and not as a personal attack against you or all of Catholicism. I only know "where the bodies are buried" because I'm a Catholic myself, so I got a little carried away. -- Kendrick7^talk 20:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

No hard feelings there. But I did check on cafeteria Catholic to make sure it's not a universally strong pejorative term (it does carry some degree of contempt in Poland). :) It's also probably not the best way to describe me; I would rather say that I view some issues from a wider perspective (like creation through evolution). Cheers, Миша13 21:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't check where that link went first; trying to define the term for all of Christendom has created a bit of a mishmosh, especially as a lot of other Christian churches aren't quite as dogmatic. In the U.S. it usually refers to Catholics who use birth control, and as such (IMHO) being a cafeteria Catholic is too widespread to be terrible derogatory per se. -- Kendrick7^talk 21:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews importer bot

Could you set it so that the dates are not wikilinked? There's really no reason for it, I think. I prefer the format that we used on the featured portal:medicine, which was

• Article title <small>(Day Month, Year)</small>

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 01:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I looked at every other featured portal. Not a single one uses this date format. It clearly is the outlier exception. Every other featured portal with a news section uses a leading date, almost always linked, with or without the year included. I oppose this suggested change. RichardF (talk) 01:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

An "interwiki transclusion bot"

Hi Misza13,

A number of editors have been working on ways to have portals take better care of themselves, rather than require lots of manual upkeep. One way to do this has been the random display of a selection of subpages. Another way has been to have a bot update a time-sensitive page, such as DinojermBot for Portal:Business and economics/Market Indices.

Another, yet unborn bot could take news items from Wikinews and place them in the applicable portal sections (probably by way of a section subpage). DinojermBot's creator doesn't seem to be active here these days, so I'm asking for your help. The basic idea would be for a general purpose bot that could copy the contents of one sister project page to a page at a different sister project. A bot user like myself would be able to specify the applicable source page, destination page, and a few other parameters along the lines of the MiszaBots.

I started some other discussions at Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Transcluding DynamicPageList results to Wikipedia pages and Portal talk:Film#An "interwiki transclusion bot" with more details about a specific portal, but the issue really is about any portal that could benefit from Wikinews updates.

If this proposed project isn't your cup of tea, could you direct me to another talk page where I could pitch the idea? Thanks for your time. RichardF (talk) 01:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

An interesting idea.

1. It shouldn't be that hard to write such a bot. One challenge is that we're not copying page code to page code, but rather the resulting rendered HTML must be converted into a wikisyntax list. But again, shouldn't be that hard and I can see what can be done.
2. On Wikia, the thing that you call "interwiki transclusion" is an actual feature. There you can transclude a page from one family into another. When and if at all will this be enabled on Wikipedia is another thing...

Миша13 13:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Do you have a time frame in mind when a bot might be up a running? By the way, does this feature have a real name I should be using? :-) RichardF (talk) 13:15, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Just thought I'd interject in this discussion. :D The feature is toggled in LocalSettings.php by a variable called $wgEnableScaryTranscluding, and it's also controlled on a per-interwiki basis by a bitfield in the database. The feature as it is currently implemented only works to transclude pages in the other wiki's template namespace (as of MediaWiki 1.11.0), so it probably wouldn't be applicable to your situation. Or am I talking about something else? Misza? (I'm not familiar with Wikia's system.) Tuvok[^T@lk/_{Improve me}] 17:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

And that's why I knew this would be the right place to come for help! >;-o) RichardF (talk) 17:34, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

The it's either something else, or the "scary transclusion" has gone further than the documentation says. For an example, see Jack Phoenix' userpage on a remote wiki (and on several more), which actually transcludes a central userpage (although I'm not sure where is it, as this is something different). Миша13 18:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks like Wikia's using 1.12, which is a version above the test wiki I have (I'm sticking with stable releases for now). Either the Scary Transclusion feature has been expanded in the SVN MediaWiki or they have some extension installed to do that. They sure do have a lot of extensions... Tuvok[^T@lk/_{Improve me}] 21:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

• This type of bot that could do this cross-wiki would be very useful. Several users are interested, and it could be used on almost every Portal on Wikipedia. No rush, but any ideas as to a time frame on if/when this could be available? Cirt (talk) 00:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC).
  • No idea how much time will I be able to spend on this due to real life, but let's see what I manage to brew in a week. Миша13 18:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Okay, no worries. Take your time. Cirt (talk) 21:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC).
      • Excellent! Any way you can make it so that the "en:" doesn't show up in the front of the links? Cirt (talk) 21:28, 4 January 2008 (UTC).
        • Is there a way to fix the double-bulleting that appears on the first line of news? Cirt (talk) 21:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC).
          • Actually, it would probably work fine/better if each line only had a single bullet. Cirt (talk) 21:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC).
• Nevermind, it's perfect! Cirt (talk) 21:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC).
  • Yeah, it either required that the </noinclude> and the first ** are on the same line (looks ugly in page's code) or just put the whole bot thingie at the end. I chose the latter. Cheers, Миша13 21:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
• For some reason it doesn't want to update Portal:Journalism/News/Wikinews. Cirt (talk) 22:10, 4 January 2008 (UTC).
  • Or Portal:Internet/Internet news/Wikinews... Cirt (talk) 22:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC).
    • Have patience now. :) The testing phase is over and I've set cron to run it hourly. The next run is scheduled *looks at the clock* in about 7 minutes. Миша13 22:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
      • Oh, okay. So I guess in order for it to work in the first place, there needs to be some sort of related Category at Wikinews to import from, so if no Category exists for a certain topic, it's not applicable, it can't somehow scan for a particular search term using the "Special:Search" function? Cirt (talk) 22:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC).
        • Technically, it can be any page where the <DynamicPageList> tag was used - can be a category page/portal page/whatever. The bot just looks for the first item list (HTML <ul> tag) in the page's content and imports that. Миша13 22:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
          • Okay, that's what I thought. Cirt (talk) 22:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC).

Misza13, thanks! Cirt just showed it to me. :-) RichardF (talk) 23:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

It appears to me the destination does not get updated from the source. Does the source have to be in template space for the bot to work properly? RichardF (talk) 03:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Seems there was a problem with caching - the bot was getting back a version of the page with only three items. I have logged it in on wikinews too, so that it's allowed to do &action=purge and should be fine now. Миша13 11:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll see if I can get it working on another portal this weekend before I blab about it too much. RichardF (talk) 16:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to keep bugging you, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the bot to work. Right now, Portal:Education/News isn't getting updated from n:Portal:Education/Wikipedia. Can you give me some specific directions on what is necessary to set up a new page? RichardF (talk) 02:59, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The dates that precede the news titles confused the bot - I have adjusted for that. Миша13 17:19, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, does that mean dates can't be used? RichardF (talk) 17:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I went the simpler way (a fix I could do in about one minute) - just copy the first link that appears in each item (this omits the date). I could probably make the bot copy the dates (and whatever else there is) but that would be more of a hassle. Миша13 17:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I know beggers can't be choosers, so thanks for all of your efforts. Time will tell if featured portal reviewers buy this undated style for news sections. :-) Regards, RichardF (talk) 18:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

By the way, if you get a chance to add the date at some point, my best guess for the preferred format is like what's at Portal:Science/News. → [[<month>]] [[<day>]]: ← Thanks again, RichardF (talk) 18:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Hah! I just came here to check you were purging the DPL'd pages first. ;-) It is great to see Wikinews coverage linked to. --Brian McNeil /^talk 08:48, 7 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianmc (talk • contribs)

Two questions to add to my above remark...

1. Is the code for this bot available for some of the French bot writers to employ?
2. If not, do you think it'll take much to make it available?

We have a user on en.Wikinews who is more of a Francophone and would love to see the same method of promoting Wikinews in French on the French WP. I also suspect the Polish and (possibly) Chinese would be among the next to want to 'purloin' your work. --Brian McNeil /^talk 14:44, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The code is available on the bot's userpage. Refactoring for any other language should be as easy as changing 'en' (to 'fr' for example) in the main() function. I also think I can set up the bot for the polish wp/wn (it's my native tongue after all). Миша13 16:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll pass on the news about fr, and that sounds great about pl. I'm trying to encourage people who adopt it on en to use it as an opportunity to get a new article that they're main contributor on up on Wikinews. If you get interest on the Polish wiki please suggest they try the same. --Brian McNeil /^talk 21:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• Any ideas on why the bot has not updated yet at Portal:Current events/Wikinews ? Cirt (talk) 05:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC).
  • Also, can you perhaps add a function to Wikinews Importer Bot (talk · contribs), so that it shows the dates of the articles to the left of each link? RichardF (talk · contribs) has brought this up to you in the past, and it seems that this can get to be a sticking point at Featured Portal peer reviews, and could possibly be an issue with Featured Portal candidate discussions - and it would be awfully tedious for someone to manually add the dates after every time the bot updates from Wikinews. Thanks for all that you have done so far. Cirt (talk) 20:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC).
    • Both done. It didn't update because there is a bug with unicode handling on one of the pages and the bot died with an exception before it got there. That said, I'll track the bug tomorrow or on Saturday (two pages still won't update); a terrible headache is giving me a hard time. Миша13 21:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
      • No rush, take your time - I hope your headache gets better. Cirt (talk) 21:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC).
      • Thanks, Миша. I see Portal:Education/News/Wikinews‎ is using dates now. Can you offer me any guidance on how I can get a Wikipedia date style to display, e.g., " [[<month>]] [[<day>]]: "? Can I do it using DynamicPageList or can the bot reformat the date? Thanks again. RichardF (talk) 23:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
        • It will be better to leave DPL output as is (i.e. plain text) and code the linking into the bot (btw: 10 January is a hard redirect to January 10, so technically speaking, DPL produces "invalid" (or at least MoS-wise improper) output). I have a few ideas and will get to it once my headache is over. Do I understand correctly that you'd like the year omitted and leave just the month and day? Миша13 23:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
          • Yes, I believe the date format at Portal:Science/News for "News on Wikipedia" is the preferred style for portals. The assumption is that items are for the current or most recent year. RichardF (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
            • Ok, headache is over, dates are ready and the unicode bug eliminated (should update on all pages now). Now this has gotta be the longest thread evar on my talk page. :) Миша13 13:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
              • Hey, I just noticed the latest updates. They look great! Thanks! Of course, you know this is now quite the rage over at Wikinews, e.g., The Wikinews Importer Bot. :-) I think they have a very legitimate point for how the bot could help update "See also" sections in current events-oriented articles like United States presidential election, 2008. Are you willing to consider allowing the bot to update article See also sections? RichardF (talk) 16:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
              • By the way, those Wikipedia portal news boxes and DYK boxes keep on whispering to me that they want bots visiting them too! I might have to start another groveling / any tips? topic here.  ;-) RichardF (talk) 16:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Another tweak? It looks like the bot is inserting one too many returns at United_States_presidential_election,_2008#See_also, causing too much white space before the References section. See this and this. Could you move the </noinclude> up a line? :-) RichardF (talk) 00:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. The next time the list of items changes the bot should start putting noinclude in the same line as the last item. Миша13 10:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :-) RichardF (talk) 12:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I saw this type of thing early on, then it went away. Now it seems to be doing it again, but maybe just for articles? Should the bot be doing "timestamp only" updates, e.g., like this and this ? RichardF (talk) 15:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, a minor glitch - fixed and shouldn't happen anymore now. Btw, thanks for maintaining the bot's userpage - I'm always too lazy to write documentation for my software. :) Миша13 17:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Please delete

Okay, so what was I thinking? Please delete Template:Wikinewshas/Article title. :-) RichardF (talk) 00:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Iraq template

So we go back to DRV again? Speedy delete was already rejected -- Kendrick7^talk 17:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't go to DRV with it. Why don't you ask Equazcion why he insists on playing this bureaucratic nonsense only to defend a piece of Myspace that doesn't even belong here? Миша13 17:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

See my reasoning at DRV. This has been speedied twice before, both times overturned. I don't know why you'd close the MfD with another speedy after all of that... Equazcion •✗/C • 17:42, 12 Jan 2008 (UTC)

You're referring to the process a lot but not in the least to the merit. Миша13 17:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I am requesting mediation. Xavexgoem (talk) 17:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Scratch that. I'll wait for an admin to do that or go to the cabal. Xavexgoem (talk) 17:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Just make sure you know what are you planning to accomplish with it. Миша13 17:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

(ec) It's a controversial issue and not clearcut. Just the fact that there are people who don't think it should be deleted is reason enough to let the MfD continue. That's why anyone is allowed to remove CSD requests from pages. In fact the MfD seemed to be leaning towards a keep (note that I myself voted for delete). Equazcion •✗/C • 17:47, 12 Jan 2008 (UTC)

First, just as anyone can remove a CSD tag, any administrator is free to fulfill the request and delete the page. Second, if you !voted delete then why are you reviving DRV? Do you want it deleted or not, for Pete's sake? Or is it just about process wonkery? Миша13 17:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I want it deleted. But I want it done the right way. The end does not justify the means. Equazcion •✗/C • 17:56, 12 Jan 2008 (UTC)

What makes my way worse? This is supposed to be a free encyclopedia, not a bureaucratic state. Anything that does not further (or worse, detracts from) the objective of building it can (and should) be deleted by all any any means necessary (and the faster the better so as not to waste further resources). Миша13 18:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Please revert your close. speedy is for unquestionable deletions and it is clear there was significant question of the UCfD. You should at the least have let the discussion continue to the end. Doing it as a speedy or snow is counterproductive, for, as you see, it always arouses resentment. As an admin you have the power to do a speedy, but also the resposibility to use the power appropriately in line with policy. IAR as applied to speedy is not correct when there is opposition. So far from not wasting further resources, it will cause a great deal more trouble. DGG (talk) 18:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I have deleted the page in line with policy. Be it CSD T1 or (if you question it) IAR which is always correct when applied to building an encyclopedia. It was not counterproductive. The people who drag it around blind and for the sake of process are. Миша13 18:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Misza I really think you went the wrong way on this one, your only supposed to close an MFD by consensus not your own POV. I personally don't like the userbox (my sister is in the USAF) but if the consensus is to keep it then it should be kept. --Chetblong^Talk_Sign 21:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't close the MfD per se. I have speedy deleted the userbox. Миша13 21:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

That doesn't make a difference you, as a sysop, are still supposed to follow policy created by consensus. Chetblong^Talk_Sign 22:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I, as an administrator am supposed to help maintain a free encyclopedia. That includes housekeeping tasks such as deleting trash that doesn't belong on one. If I find a page that qualifies for a CSD (T1 in this instance), I delete it, naturally. If you disagree with T1 (the bit about template space was added not long ago, and not without opposition), then G0 still applies, no difference. Миша13 22:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not for you to decide what's allowed and what's not the consensus decides that, just like consensus decided if you could be an administrator or not. Chetblong^Talk_Sign 22:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

If we were to discuss everything around here first, we'd never get anything done. Wikipedia stands on a pillar of WP:BOLD and it applies to admins just as it does to regular users. You can of course disagree with my actions, as I'm just your run-the-mill abusive admin, and struggle to lengthen the process outside the scope of building an encyclopedia despite my best efforts. And that's exactly what happened - a DRV overturned my decision and there we are at the MfD again. So let's close this issue as my personal failure - I still stand a chance of not being called an "asshole" this time round. Миша13 22:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

"Being Bold" does not excuse a disregard for the other guidelines/policies that comprise the five pillars of Wikipedia. --Chetblong^Talk_Sign 22:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Did you check the last pillar in detail before you commented here? In particular, the first link that appears in that section. Миша13 22:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Your kind of ignoring the fourth pillar, where it states "Find consensus", and Wikipedia:Be bold#… but don't be reckless. Chetblong^Talk_Sign 23:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Screeny

Czy można tutaj ładować screeny z gier:FIFA 08 i Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas na licencji fair use lub jakiejkolwiek innej licencji? Czekam na odpowiedź i pozdrawiam Alden(Sharon boyfriend) or talk 22:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC).

Można, ale nie jest łatwo. Poczytaj Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria - grafika musi spełniać wszystkie 10 warunków, w szczególności ostatni, tj. uzasadnienie niewolnego użycia - o tym z kolei szerzej na Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. A jak znam życie, to nawet jak przez to przejdziesz to ryzykujesz, że ktoś Ci wywali obrazek z artykułu (bo nie potrzebny, za dużo niewolnej grafiki itepe.) i po tygodniu już go nie będzie (kryteria "eskpresowego kasowania" I5-I7). Pozdrawiam, Миша13 22:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

A mógłbyś dokładnie mi opisać te dziesięć warunków,ale po polsku?(na razie gorzej u mnie z angielskim:/)Właśnie ładowałem niedawno kilka zdjęć i właśnie ktoś mi wywalił, z powodów jakie podałes wyżej. No i przede wszystkim:wyjaśnisz mi dokładnie i prosto jak mogę obejść to o czym mówisz,by m.in.ktoś nie wywalił etc.? 23:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Kryteria w skrócie:

1. Brak wolnego odpowiednika, czyli nie da się zdobyć równoważnego medium na wolnej licencji. Spełnia to większość screenshotów, bo firmy nie pozwalają na ich wolne rozpowszechnianie (ale są wyjątki, np. Ubisoft, p. {{ubisoft-screenshot}}).
2. Poszanowanie komercji, czyli że np. opublikowanie medium nie wpłynie negatywnie na korzyści jakie firma czerpie ze swojego produktu. Znowu, screenshoty się łapią, niemniej trzeba to napisać na stronie obrazka.
3. (a)Minimalne użycie, tj. chcemy, żeby niewolnych obrazków było jak najmniej. Bardzo ważne kryterium, bo na jego podstawie najczęściej obrazki wylatują z artykułów (wystarczy, że ktoś stwierdzi, że jest ich za dużo, ale to jest również kwestia do dyskusji). (b) Minimalne wykorzystanie, czyli jak można to użyć tylko kawałka obrazka, a ponadto w dość niskiej rozdzielczości.
4. Wcześniejsza publikacja - obrazek został wcześniej opublikowany poza Wikipedią.
5. Treść - obrazek sam w sobie powinien mieć encyklopedyczną wartość.
6. Obrazek spełnia politykę dot. mediów, np. Wikipedia:Image use policy
7. Jest użyty w przynajmniej jednym artykule (nie składujemy obrazków ot tak).
8. Jest istotny z punktu widzenia artykułu, czyli w jakiś sposób go ubogaca, np. pogłebia zrozumienie treści.
9. Jest użyty tylko w artykułach.
10. Wymagania dot. strony obrazka:

(a) Atrybucja, czyli skąd się obrazek wzięło, kto ma prawa autorskie.

(b) Oznaczony odpowiednim szablonem "galerii": Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Non-free, np {{non-free game screenshot}}

(c) Każdy artykuł, w którym obowiązuje fair use musi być wymieniony (w postaci linku), i dla każdego musi być osobne uzasadnienie. Ile już obrazków wyleciało, bo nie miało listy artykułów to nie zliczę...

Piekło, nie? Ale w końcu to ma być wolna encyklopedia, a nie zbiorowisko naruszeń praw autorskich (bo by nas w końcu ktoś pozwał). Миша13 18:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Z czystej ciekawości jeszcze spytam - co to na en wiki za zwyczaje,odpisywania na swojej dyskusji?:) Alden(Sharon boyfriend) or talk 23:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

No właśnie - takie zwyczaje. :) Choć ma to choćby tę zaletę, że dyskusja nie jest pokawałkowana na dwóch stronach. Миша13 18:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Dobrze, że chociaż znalazłem polskojęzycznego administratora:)Alden(Sharon boyfriend) or talk 11:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Auto-archive bots.

Hi. I've read that there are three bots which auto-archive talkpages: MiszaBot, ClueBot III, and MercuryBot. What are the differences between them? Which one is best? In other words, which one is prone to the least errors and stays up the most often? ☯  Zenwhat (talk) 01:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

MercuryBot is a clone of MiszaBot which only archives ANs. ClueBot III is Cobi's genuine creation that has mostly the same functions and apparently can also index the archives. But really, there's no great difference (both are stable, operate regularly and quite reliably), so it's really up to you whether you use MiszaBot or ClueBot. Миша13 18:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

archiving glitch?

Apparently there has been a glitch with your archiving bot this morning. ANI thread. -- lucasbfr ^talk 10:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

An extremely rare error. I can't even say I can counter it - must be some lost connection while posting monolithic amounts of text to the server. Миша13 18:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

Could you maybe shed a little light on the link to User:MiszaBot/conf8988ig near the top of Talk:Main Page? I was going to just remove it, but there was code, and so I assumed it was something to do with archiving. J Milburn (talk) 17:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it does - at least, User:MiszaBot/config does - it's the template the bot checks to see what pages want automatic archiving. It's parameters are options for the bot. It also gets vandalized pretty often on Talk:Main Page, so instead of removing, you should rather fix it and whack whoever broke it. ;) Миша13 17:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thanks, I'll keep my eye on it from now on. J Milburn (talk) 18:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Archiving date problem?

After your archive bot began on Talk:George W. Bush military service controversy I noticed some old sections had no signatures, thus no dates. I used subst:unsigned2 to sign entries in the sections. After several days, the bot doesn't seem to have archived the sections. Maybe there is something about the formatting of the dates which the bot is not recognizing, but I'm just guessing. P.S. The section "Signature" was signed, but with an unusual date format also. -- SEWilco (talk) 16:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The correct sequence is: day, month, year. Just see what ~~~~~ produces. And don't forget the timezone - without it, the timestamp remains undefined. The bot already accepts a variety of timestamps, but I can't possibly compensate for anything people think of. Regards, Миша13 17:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

But the timestamps on a History page have no timezone, so {{unsigned2}} entries aren't recognized. I manually fixed that Talk page. -- SEWilco (talk) 05:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Could the bot accept some part of </small><!-- Template:Unsigned2 --> instead of a timezone? "small" is not widely used, so might be unusual enough to be a reasonable pattern symbol. Unless the bot recognizes all timezone names, "small" might be more unusual than a random three letter abbreviation within parentheses. Or does the bot recognize un-subst unsigned/unsigned2 template incantation? -- SEWilco (talk) 20:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't understand a bit from what you're saying. "Small" is not a valid timezone name. The solution is simple: add "(UTC)" to the date whenever you invoke {{unsigned}}. Миша13 21:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Help, please.

I tried to set up auto-archiving with Misza3. See here. I'd like to have my archiving set up similarly to the way Jimbo has it set up: Partially based on date, but partially based on incremental size. That way, I can edit Wikipedia sporadically without having archives that are messy. Did I do it right? Usually, bots are quick and I haven't seen Misza3 appear just yet. ☯  Zenwhat (talk) 21:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

The counter is a meaningless parameter when you don't use it. Either incremental or date-based; I can't see how you could combine these two. Миша13 21:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

news importer bot - don't remove categories etc from target portal page?

Currently when the bot updates it's target page, it removes all current content and replaces it with the new information. Is there any way for it to leave any information already existing after the last </noinclude> so that portal categories and editing notes can be left alone? Nanonic (talk) 06:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to add to this about perhaps having a link to a page over on Wikinews encouraging people from Wikipedia to get involved with the sister site. I've been scratching my head for days and still can't figure a pithy 3-4 word invite to put on the templates the bot maintains. I have RichardF and a couple of the other people who're making use of this bot looking over what the transition to Wikinews involves. I've proposed creating Wikinews:Wikinews:Welcome from Wikipedia as a landing page for this and would welcome your thoughts on this. --Brian McNeil /^talk 12:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't delete redirects!

Please don't delete "unnecessary" redirects, even orphaned talk pages. A redirect that was once made is likely to be useful again; redirects should be deleted only when they are actually harmful. See this policy. Since they're all Talk pages, it's probably not so important. (That's why I've decided against going through the list and restoring them.) But it's always possible that an external site linked to one of these old talk pages before it was moved, and Wikipedia has plenty of room (it's primarily bandwidth that Wikimedia needs money for), so they really should not be deleted. —Toby Bartels (talk) 01:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

The redirects were created as a result of a page move (of the article). Being orphaned, they provide no internal added value (you don't search the Talk: namespace) and only amount to clutter (we may have a lot of space but that does not excuse from having a mess) and may even stand in the way of future moves (although it is just as unlikely as the page being linked to from outside of Wikipedia). What I'm doing is basically what DerHexer was doing back in 2007 - he once told me that it's a long-standing de.wiki practice - you might ask him how this idea was originally born. And since he was doing it in batches which apparently took him some time to prepare, I have devised a mechanism for full automation and have been running it ever since. On a more humorous note, it's good for your mental health that you have refrained from restoring those pages - DerHexer and myself have deleted some 30-40 (or more) thousand pages since it all started. :) Миша13 20:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Which speedy deletion criteria was that again? None? A link to where consensus was decided, then? Bot approval?

I'm not saying I'm actually opposed to this (I can see pros and cons, and do indeed value good housekeeping), but your response to this guy seems to be "I know best"...

Just to be clear, it's only orphaned talk pages you're deleting?--kingboyk (talk) 00:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Hm, I didn't know we needed a CSD to delete something... :I

And it's not like "I know best"; I'm just doing systematically what takes others greater effort to do.

And to be completely clear, they're not only orphaned redirects, but also have only one item in page history (i.e. they were created by a move) and that move took place at least 30 days ago. Миша13 11:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I already talked to DerHexer about it, and all that he said was "I've not deleted unnecessary redirects for days. Misza13 is doing this at the moment.", so I checked it out and came over here. You're right that I would have a hard time deleting 30 or 40 thousand of these; that's why BOT policy requires preapproval. Your bot is apparently not checking the page's logs either, since it's not true that the only activity on these pages is a page move; some of them have been deleted and restored three times. Also, these pages are hardly clutter; they're well behaved redirects that no one will stumble upon from within Wikipedia (only from outside, which is why it's harmful to delete them). Furthermore, they won't stop page moves that reverse the previous move; more generally, they won't stop any page move that the non-discussion article allows. Finally, it's backwards to restrict your activity to old talk pages; it's new ones that are less likely to have received incoming links. (But it's really the length of history of the unmoved name that matters, not the length of time since the move.) —Toby Bartels (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok then, I'll work to redesign the bot to consider only new redirects (say, up to two weeks) and make sure there are no underlying deletion log entries. On the other hand, however, I wonder how often talk pages are linked to externally (examples?)... Миша13 17:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk page of History of California

Hello Misza13. I have re-created the talk page of History of California. You deleted it in December, 2007. I would like to know your views. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 12:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

My only view is that the page was a year-old redirect to Talk:History of California to 1899, so makes no difference to me. Миша13 17:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Please be nice to people

I see that you blocked User:Yoooooooooooooooooooo. Please be nice to people. If you block them, it is nice to leave a politely worded message on their user talk page and instructions to pick a new name. Mrs.EasterBunny (talk) 16:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Waste of time. They'll get notified when they try (if they do) to edit by the block message. Plus, no need to further populate CAT:TEMP. In short, thanks, but no, thanks. Миша13 17:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Reliable Sources/Noticeboard

Your MiszaBot tag is embedded at the top of the [Reliable sources/Noticeboard] but the board is already up to 573K and the archive max is set to 250K. Not sure if it's working or I'm just missing something. Thanks. Wjhonson (talk) 03:58, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

The bot is set to archive any sections that haven't been edited for 28days, the 250k limit refers to the maximum size an archive page can reach before another is created. As the top section was last edited on 31 December, it will be archived on 27/28 January if no further comments are made to it. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 04:09, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks that's very helpful! Wjhonson (talk) 04:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Deleted image

I was reading the article John Keston and noticed there was an image tag missing its first bracket. So the non-free image Holmesplaybill.jpg showed as unused in an article and you deleted it. I'm wondering if there's a way you could undelete it as can be done with articles? If you manage to do it, can you perhaps fix the tag on the article or send me a message so I can fix it? I just wouldn't want to to be delete again for the same reason! :p --Dandin1 (talk) 18:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. Can you in turn provide a fair use rationale for the image (in addition to removing the "orphaned" tag)? Миша13 18:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews importer bot/Main article space

Your bot is doing a good job but unfortunately the pages used by the article are placed in stories in development (main namespace). To stop this happening I would suggest you created an account and put them in the user namespace. If this is not possible you could put them in Portal:Country name/Wikipedia. --Smallbig/Anonymous101 on Wikinews 18:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me? All pages the bot updates are either /Wikinews subpages of relevant portals or subpages of Template:Wikinewshas. As far as I can tell from the bot's logs, pages on Wikinews it feeds from are portal or category subpages. Миша13 18:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews Importer Bot stalled?

Is the Wikinews Importer Bot stalled? Haven't been any updates to any subpages in quite a while now... Cirt (talk) 12:29, 20 January 2008 (UTC).

Seems to be running now. The toolserver had a downtime for the first half of the day. Миша13 17:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

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Bot requirements

Hi, Misza! I was wondering what it would take to run a copy of MiszaBot for use on my own wiki. Is that possible to do? If so, what would I need? This isn't urgent, as my wiki's being set up rather slowly, but eventually I'd like to get an archiver and an indexer running. Your indexer module idea in the header has me excited; I wouldn't have to also get a copy of HBC Archive Indexerbot. :) Tuvok[^T@lk/_Improve] 12:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

That shouldn't be all that hard. Once you have a family file for your wiki, it should be as simple as setting up something similar to User:MiszaBot/config and running the bot with correct parameters. There might be wrinkles (like some non-standard timezone), but these can be ironed out - one wiki I know to use it is the Battlestar Wiki. As for the indexer part, the development is on hold currently as I pursue a different project, but I'll get back to it soon enough. Миша13 17:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, so I'd just need to get the pyWikipediaBot framework and install Python on the server (if it's not present). I wouldn't need to get SVN commit access to make a family file, would I? I'd just have to add one to my local copy of the framework, yes? Tuvok[^T@lk/_Improve] 18:25, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, a local copy in ther families/ directory would suffice. But once your wiki gets sufficiently "notable" ;) it could probably be added to the SVN tree. Миша13 19:25, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, then. Thanks! I'll be back to ask about source code in however many months it takes to get the site set up and working properly. Which could be a while... Tuvok[^T@lk/_Improve] 01:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

PS: I doubt this wiki will get put in SVN; it's going to be a restricted-access site for project collaboration.

Viewing and editing Wikipedia while running scripts

Hi there. I'm asking you this as I think you (or your bot) run some scripts (image deletion scripts?) An issue at ANI involves whether an editor can view and/or edit Wikipedia while running a script. Could you advise on how easy it is for this sort of inability to arise, and how easy it is to get around? The idea is that editors should be able to respond to concerns and queries while running such scripts. This was an image deletion script running for 2 hours after a manual check. The thread is here. Any opinion on whether such "script-blindness" situations are common, and what the guidelines/workarounds should or could be, would be welcomed. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 22:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

My bots, being based on pywikipedia are by nature run from command line (either my PC or the toolserver). Thus, I have no problems whatsoever with using/browsing Wikipedia otherwise. The question whether I am at all online while the bots are running is on the other hand of completely different nature. Миша13 17:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

please allow covers

I am trying to update the Portugal The Man page to be accurate but you are deleting my files/comments. I manage the band this is correct info and we own it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fearofmusic (talk • contribs) 18:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

If you're referring to Image:Wizard cover hi.jpg, please read Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria - one of them requires that non-free images be used in articles - this one was orphaned and consequently deleted. You can reupload it if you actually include it in an article and write a fair-use rationale for it (or you can release it under a free license, like GFDL, which will mean that others are free to modify and/or redistribute works based on it). Миша13 19:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR

When you get a chance, can you generate a key for Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. Regards, Mercury at 02:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

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Yet Another Deleted Image

You deleted the image in the "info box" on Turn Left. It was not unused as it obviously was uploaded and displayed prominently on that page, and it was not unfree as it was uploaded by an editor of the paper. We can't find a copy of the file so can you please give your reason and restore it if possible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eastcoastmystery (talk • contribs) 02:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

PR

Hej. Czy wiesz, może jak zostać ekspertem tu na en? Tzn. Jak zostać Peer review? Jeśli mogę to proszę o wytłumaczenie mi tego, bowiem uważam że umiesz skutecznie tłumaczyć. Pozdrawiam Alden(Sharon boyfriend) or talk 20:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

No dzięki za komplement. W Wikipedia:Peer review chodzi mniej więcej o to, żeby ściągnąć do prac nad artykułem większą rzeszę ludzi. Jest na to jakaś tam procedura (sekcja "Nomination procedure") i tak się zaczyna - potem wolontariusze (Wikipedia:Peer review/volunteers) zaczynają się znęcać nad artykułem (na tej stronie jest napisane żeby dać im znać na ich dyskusji, że pojawił się do przeglądu artykuł z ich "dziedziny") i jakoś się tam kolaboracja rozwija. Oczywiście nie chodzi tu o prawdziwych akademickich ekspertów, tylko "eskpertów"-amatorów (bo nikt Ci nie sprawdza w papierach, czy znasz się na tym, co piszesz). Nigdy w czymś takim nie uczestniczyłem, bo zajmuję się raczej techniczną stroną obsługi Wikipedii, ale żeby się zahaczyć jako "ekspert", to trzeba by pewnie zaciągnąć się na wspomnianą listę wolontariuszy, a główną stronę dodać do obserwowanych i... czekać na okazje. :) Миша13 21:48, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Jak rozumiesz pojęcie "Znęcać się nad artykułem"? No i czy wtedy, ja jako osoba znająca np. Harry'ego Pottera, mogę być ekspertem w tej dziedzinie? A tak przy okazji - czy masz komunikator internetowy? Pozdrawiam:-)Alden(Sharon boyfriend) or talk 22:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

"Znęcać" w potocznym sensie - czyli weryfikować i dodawać źródła, poprawiać/wywalać bzdury itepe. Jeżeli znasz się na HP, to po prostu dopisz się do listy wolontariuszy z adnotacją o Twoich zainteresowań i śledź główną stronę PR w poszukiwaniu interesujących zgłoszeń. Z komunikatorów używam tylko IRC, na freenode często można mnie spotkać. Миша13 21:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Mógłbyś podać mi linka, gdzie mam się zapisać? Znam się na geografii i innych tego typu pierdołach Przy okazji - jest tu prócz ciebie i Piotrusa polskojęzyczny admin?:) Kasia a.k.a KatLos 22:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Tak jak pisałem, Wikipedia:Peer review/volunteers. Z innych swojskich adminów jest jeszcze Darwinek, a więcej można by poszukać na WP:PWNB, ale ostatnio rzadko tam zaglądam. Миша13 17:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Image

Apparently, you recently deleted an image I uploaded: Image:Gunz0148gp2.JPG. That image was not an unused, unfree image, as its been in the article for Gunz: The Duel for over a year. What's more is that image was not tagged with an orphaned image tag (I believe I get a new message when that happens, but I did not), and recently (3 days ago) re-added the picture to Gunz article after someone deleted it off the article for no real reason. The time between that deletion and the re-add is six days, which is sooner than the seven-day cutoff period for the orphaned image restriction, which, as I said, was never added. If you could, please, restore the image? Thank you. --Antoshi~! ^{T | C} 01:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

The image was tagged on January 15th. Please discuss it with Mr.Z-man, who removed it from the article. Миша13 17:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Bot not working

i dont know if this's the place to ask but User:MiszaBot is not working on my talk page. would you mind helping me? Σαι ( Talk ) 03:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Archives have to be on subpages of the page that calls the bot. You had "User Talk:" in the settings, when the namespace is "User talk:" (lowercase 't'). I fixed it; post back if it still doesn't work and I'm sure Misza will get on the case ASAP. :) Tuvok[^T@lk/_Improve] 04:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

You were correct. I really should make the bot case-insensitive with regard to namespace. Миша13 17:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Personally, and this is just my own opinion, I wouldn't bother. Setting up archival is usually a one-time thing. Making the bot case-insensitive could confuse people into thinking that links like User Talk:Voyagerfan5761 should work. I know one of the central tenets of software development is to adapt the program to the user, but I don't see how it would be particularly useful in this case. But you do whatever you want with your bot; I don't care that much. ;-) Tuvok[^T@lk/_Improve] 00:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I think you deleted this image:

Image:Pie pequeño.JPG, that is. It was deleted once before because it had no fair use rationale. It must have been restored and had a rationale added, but it got removed from the article it had occupied, and apparently no one bothered to return it. If you'll please restore the image, I'd like to return it to its article. Please and thank you! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 05:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Restored, but the image lacks any rationale whatsoever (see WP:FURG) - please write one and then add the image to the article. Миша13 17:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

You may delete it now. It is visible in Littlefoot's article again, but not under the same file name. I re-uploaded it under another file name which I had already placed in there, but it now has a proper fair-use rationale at last. Thank you for your time!!! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 01:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

super hawt drama

Ok, that section header made me absolutely laugh out loud. Thanks for adding perspective. Keeper | 76 19:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Bot issue: no links to new archives

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before (sorry if it has), but when the archive bots create a new archive page after the previous one fills up, they do not make a link from the (current) talk page to the new page. This makes it seem that discussions archived to newer page(s) before links to those pages are made have disappeared/been deleted. Maybe use something like {{Special:Prefixindex/User talk:Misza13/Archives/2008/Archive}} (based on Template:afd2)? Jason McHuff (talk) 11:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's been asked before. If you use a standard naming scheme for your archives (/Archive N), you can use the {{archive box}} template: {{archive box|auto=yes}}. Миша13 19:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Marsupial Lion

11:19, 15 December 2007 Misza13 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Marsupial Lion" ‎ (Orphaned redirect talk page (moved or created 366 days ago))

Hi, not sure why this was deleted, but could you restore it please? Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 12:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Simple housekeeping. It was merely a redirect (not an actual talk page) to Talk:Thylacoleo. Not links to it anywhere, unlikely to be searched for, thus I see no reason why it should exist. Can you name one? Миша13 19:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, are you saying the talk page for Talk:Marsupial Lion was moved to Talk:Thylacoleo? That's what this seems to suggest. I'll move the project tags back to the talk page and see if I can reclaim any old talk. FYI, it was an actual talk page but was subject to many moves, and in the process, the original talk page and page history were lost. So this is a bad page move that needs the history repaired, not the talk page deleted. Someone forgot to restore the old talk and history. See also:[2] I need an administrator to restore the lost talk and article history. —Viriditas | Talk 23:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Hold on, this is a real mess. Someone has now duplicated three pages on Marsupial Lions, the newest being Thylacoleonidae. Might take some time to fix all this. —Viriditas | Talk 23:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Bot for auto-rating?

Hey Misza13, I know this exists somewhere, just not sure where and you seem like a good person to ask. Do you know of a bot that checks to see if an article talk page has a quality/importance rating from a project, and then fills in empty ratings for the other project tags on the same page? I want something to auto-assess talkpages for {{WikiProject Theatre}} - all the categories are empty since I just added the quality-assessment function - but I don't want to go rating 1,000 articles manually... Cirt (talk) 11:16, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I can't recall any bots from memory, but I have found this: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BotCompuGeek linked from Wikipedia:Bots/Status by searching for "assess". It's "only" AWB, but still would speed up the process (you'd probably nned a plugin like the Kingbotk). Миша13 20:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't follow, could you give me an example of how to do it? Cirt (talk) 21:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can't since I don't use WP:AWB. But I imagine it's as simple as installing it and adding the plugin (the user guide explains how). Whether there is a non-AWB bot that does the same, I don't know. Миша13 22:01, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, I'll look into it further. Cirt (talk) 18:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Archives not archiving

I set up Misza bot to archive my user talk page, however I just discovered it isn't really archiving anything. It removes the old threads from my page, but it never puts them in the archive. On the archive summary, it says it is archiving "to /dev/null." I've removed it from now, but this is the code I used:

{{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 250K |counter = 2 |algo = old(3d) |minthreadsleft = 0 |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |archive = User talk:Collectonian/Archive %(counter)d }}

Did I set something wrong? Collectonian (talk) 01:25, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

It may not be explicitly stated in the user guide, but the template simply cannot be compacted onto one line like you did - it must be one parameter per line. Миша13 10:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Ahhh...thanks :) Collectonian (talk) 18:38, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Trackers - analysis of logs

Hi Misza. I was looking at the trackers updated by your bot, and I was wondering if the same sort of thing can be done with block logs? Have a look at Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy#Block logs analysis - logging indefinite blocks (still being written). If you think something could be done, please indicate this over there. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 02:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

archiveheader parameter

Hi, and thanks for adding the archiveheader parameter to your wonderful bot! I have a couple of questions about its use.

1. Does the bot assume that the target is in the Template namespace? That is does the template need to be in curly brackets ({}) or does the namespace need to be specified (i.e. Template:Example)?
2. Can it support sub-page templates outside of the template namespace? For example, the Drawing board's archives are three layers deep (/Archive/<year>/<month>) and the standard templates won't reach up back to the main discussion page. I'd like to set up a subpage of the project page with the needed template if the bot will support it.

Thanks again for writing/running this bot! I love how organized the date format makes the Drawing board's archives. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 00:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I can't speak for Misza, but I think the archiveheader is raw wikitext. I've put in {{User:Voyagerfan5761/talkarchive}} and it seems to be working quite well. Of course, the bot hasn't created a new archive page quite yet; I still have a few KB to go. (I used to have Werdnabot/Shadowbot3.) Tuvok[^T@lk/_Improve] 01:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

1. I'm afraid I don't quite understand - the parameter is just raw text that will be put on newly-created archives.
2. Create a template wherever you want - the parameter also supports substitution of variables if you need them. Миша13 17:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually I think you answered quite well. Thanks for the help! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 17:18, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

ACCESS (TV channel)

Hiya! I was wondering, if you would be able to un-delete the ACCESS TV logos, would you also let me place the appropriate non-free image copyright tags (with sources) so they can be used on wikipedia again? I can list the images in question if you want. they are:

• Image:ACCESS Television logo.svg
• Image:Access Logo 1.jpg
• Image:Access TV Alberta-3.gif

Thanks for taking time to read this. RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 01:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. Your job now to clean them up, provide fair use rationales and so on. Миша13 17:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Adding proper licensing tags now :) RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 18:05, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

MY Rfa

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Email

New message. Regards, Rudget. 17:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Archiving not working?

I've set up archiving as per the instructions on my talk page, but it doesn't seem to be functioning.--Crossmr (talk) 00:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I've tweaked the code for you. You should go in there and set the minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive options (defaults 5 and 2, respectively) to lower numbers if you don't get very many talk page messages. Tuvok[^T@lk/_Improve] 07:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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Archive Map Special RfA-thanks Year 2005 Year 2006 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2007 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2008 I II III IV V VI Archive for February 2008 Archiving for WT:SHIPS Before I place the tag for MizaBot to get to work, I was concerned about our existing archives and whether they will cause any conflict with the bot? Specifically, I had to move archive pages 1-9 to /Archive 1 instead of /Archive01 etc so there are redirects in place. I also compacted 13 archive pages into the current 7 pages and pages 8-13 are currently blank [3]. In case it matters at this point I believe we will go with a 28 day time period and archive pages at about 200k in size. All the best :) --Brad (talk) 14:55, 1 February 2008 (UTC) How long to start archiving? I put the tag on my user talk page, and I was wondering how long it took it start archiving. Here's the code: {{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 120K |counter = 1 |archive = User talk:QuasiAbstract/Archive%(counter)d |algo = old(1m) |minthreadstoarchive = 1 }} ~QuasiAbstract (talk/contrib) 16:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC) "1m"? What's that? The manual clearly states that only days and hours are supported. The bot runs on a daily basis (you really can figure that from its contribs) and will visit your page only if you fix the error. Миша13 16:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC) Ah, I missed that, thanks. (It was supposed to be month) ~QuasiAbstract (talk/contrib) 00:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC) peer review I was wondering if you could take some time out of your schedule to head over to the Heroes (TV series) talkpage and give us an honest peer review. The page has gone through some major changes in the last few months, and it would be fantastic if a prominent editor/contributor like yourself, could head over and give us at the Heroes Wikiproject some sound opinion and ideas on improvements for the page. We have all worked very hard at improving the page, and we need great outside, reliable and trustworthy users to come over and help us improve. I you are interested in joining the peer review discussion with other prominent users/contributors, much like yourself, please follow the link. Thank you very much for your help and your continued effort to improve Wikipedia and its quality! Wikipedia:Peer review/Heroes (TV series)/archive2--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 04:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC) Archiving I set up the Miszabot Archive code on my Talk Page. Could you check if I have done it right ? as it has not archived anything. Thank you, Tovojolo (talk) 09:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC) Please see User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained and read about minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive - there's not enough threads on your talk page. Миша13 18:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC) WP:PW Newsletter This newsletter is ready to be released. Please distribute it as soon as you can. Thank you! iMatthew 2008 17:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC) Done. In future please double-check the newsletter when you make significant layout changes. You forgot to close the outer (nav) table with a |} and I had to make a second run with my bot to fix it. Миша13 19:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC) What did I do wrong? What did I do wrong here? Something stupid I assume. Nothing was archived last night. Thanks. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:35, 4 February 2008 (UTC) Woops. Not sure how I did that. Thanks. —Wknight94 (talk) 18:43, 5 February 2008 (UTC) WT:CSD Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the placement of the MiszaBot config template which you altered to prevent the first section ("Read this before proposing new criteria") from ever being archived? Of course you'd know more about the workings of your own bot than I do, but I think it is the intention of the archive system at WT:CSD to not have that first section archived. Happy‑melon 18:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC) The template must be placed before the first header as the bot looks for it only in the page introduction. And sections are not archived only if they contain no valid timestamps. Миша13 19:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC) Month incrementing... Just as a question... when MiszaBot archives, doe it use the sig date of the thread or the date the archive is done for %(monthnameshort)s? - J Greb (talk) 23:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC) It uses the last date out of all timestamps (signatures) in the thread. The run time is only relevant in determining the thread's age (for the old(...) function). Миша13 17:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC) OK... that makes sense with what I'm seeing. Thanks, - J Greb (talk) 23:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC) Not working for me Sorry to bug you with this since it probably happens a lot, but Miszabot has stopped archiving my talk page... not sure where I went wrong. Help please? Nobody of Consequence (talk) 16:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC) This is indeed a FAQ #1. Please see User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained and read about minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive - there's not enough threads on your talk page. Миша13 17:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for February 4th, 2008. Weekly Delivery Volume 4, Issue 6 4 February 2008 About the Signpost Special: 2007 in Review, Part IV Tensions in journalistic use of Wikipedia explored  Best of WikiWorld: "Calvin and Hobbes" News and notes: Milestones  Wikipedia in the News Tutorial: Adding citations  Dispatches: New methods to find Featured Article candidates Features and admins  Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation  Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 08:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC) Artykuły Hej, mógłbyś luknąć na te artykuły:? Proszę tak z ciekawości, czy są w miarę poprawne językowo. Sam mieszkam w Bydgoszczy i niedługo porobię zdjęcia:) Alden(Sharon boyfriend) or talk 21:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC) Andrzej Polkowski Media Rodzina Wyżyny(Bydgoszcz district) Glinki (Bydgoszcz district) Inpedence district (Bydgoszcz) Tatrzańskie (Bydgoszcz district) Flisy (Bydgoszcz district) Zapomniałem:Dasz mi dwugodzinną blokadę? Czuję że wpadam w wikipedioholizm..Alden(Sharon boyfriend) or talk 22:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC) Pre-problem with Misza Bot Please take a look at [4] — something went wrong! -- Lea (talk) 09:21, 10 February 2008 (UTC) Yes. Someone's been messing with ==thread headers== inside a <pre> environment (and I think also forgot to close the tag), which cause the thread to be decomposed into individual ones. Using an HTML entity that represents the equal sign is a solution (the bot does not have a built-in wikiparser to detect pre and nowiki blocks). Миша13 16:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC) The problem was actually in the preceding archiving (diff). Search the diff for "== Heading 1 ==". This was inside <pre> ... </pre> so it was a part of the section at [5]. MiszaBot II caused a misformatted page because it archived </pre> but left an open <pre>. I fixed the problem by moving the start of the section to the archive. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC) Help please I had Wernabot which is no longer active. I am trying to set up Misza bot to archive my talk page but I can't seem to do it correctly. I asked for help from my mentor and it's still not working. Would you please help get this to work of my talk page for me? Thanks in advance, --CrohnieGalTalk 14:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC) If you look at User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained you'll note that even if not specified the bot will use default values for minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive. Since minthreadsleft defaults to 5 and you only have 5 threads on your talk page currently, it will not archive. Your talk page meets the minimum of 2 for minthreadstoarchive but archiving these will leave less than 5 threads on the page. So to clarify, the bot will only archive if there are at least two threads older than your setting and there will be at least five threads/sections left on the page when it's done. Hope that helps. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 16:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC) Thanks I understand and I copied this to my mentor who helped me set it up since we both didn't understand if it was working. One more question, should there be a notice on my talk page that it is archiving for me? I've seen others who use Miszabot and they have a box on the top saying so. Thanks so very much, --CrohnieGalTalk 17:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC) You can have such a tag, but it's not obligatory. It's more of a courtesy note, but people could "discover" the bot anyway by looking in the page's history. Usually an index of archives (either an {{archive box}} or a custom one like mine) is enough. Миша13 19:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC) Plaster of muppets Sorry to sneak around you. :P Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 19:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC) Physical science article trying to be a portal Hi Misza13, What's the deal with the Physical science article trying to act like Portal:Physical science? What's the proper tag that won't get reverted? RichardF (talk) 21:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC) Archiving NINE threads ? See [6] ! A very minor issue, but this was puzzling :) NicDumZ ~ 17:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC) What's so puzzling about it? Looks like 9 to me. Or am I going blind? Миша13 18:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC) WikiProject Universities newsletter Would you be able to add the WikiProject Universities newsletter to your bot's list of monthly things to do? If not, it's ok, but it would really save me a bunch of time! Let me know here, thanks! —Noetic Sage 20:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC) Not a problem at all. Just signal me whenever it's copyedited and ready for delivery and I'll run it. I assume the delivery list is the participant list? Also, is there an opt-out list (if not, is one planned)? Миша13 20:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC) Thanks so much! Yes, the participant list you linked to is the right one. The current opt out list is here. I usually deliver on or soon after the 31st of every month, and the code is == The WikiProject Universities Newsletter: Issue X (MONTH YEAR) == {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities/Outreach/Newsletter link|MONTH YEAR}} —~~~~ where MONTH YEAR is equal to the month and year of the issue (e.g. February 2008) and X is equal to the roman numeral of the issue (e.g. VI). The edit summary should read: [[WP:UNI]] Newsletter Issue X Delivery If you have any questions let me know, but thanks again and I'll let you know when it's ready!!—Noetic Sage 21:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC) Images Hiya. I was wondering if you would be able to undelete or restore Image:Wicu1278.jpg and Image:WOIO CBS 19 Cleveland logo.png. I have the source information for the image, but i just dont have the image at this time. as well, the same holds true for [7]'s images. I have the source information, but not the images... RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 01:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC) Happy Valentine's Day! User:Wilhelmina Will has wished you a happy Valentine's day, and good luck in love and friendship! A short/sweet little message, which I hope has made your day better! Happy Valentine's Day!!! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC) request to enable bot for Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms is the sub project talk page to Wikipedia:Route diagram template, which has already enabled the same bot as well. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 07:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for February 11th, 2008. Weekly Delivery Volume 4, Issue 7 11 February 2008 About the Signpost Petition seeks to remove images of Muhammad Foundation's FY2007 audit released  Vatican claims out-of-context Wikipedia quote was used to attack Pope Best of WikiWorld: "W"  News and notes: Working group, Wik-iPhone, milestones Wikipedia in the News  Tutorial: Basic dispute resolution Dispatches: Great saves at Featured article review  Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News  The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 08:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC) User talk archiving problem Hello - I've been trying to set up my talk page to have MiszaBot III automatically archive it, but I must have gotten something incorrect as it's still not archiving. I've read over the help section a few times, but still can't get it to work. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. DJBullfish 01:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC) Thanks so much for the fix!DJBullfish 02:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC) Archiving Betacommandbot's Talk page Is it set up to archive immediately? Enigma (talk) 17:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC) I'll let you figure that on your own (hint: see where have they been "archived" to). On a side note, it's entirely none of my business what archiving settings people use. Миша13 17:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC) OK, whatever. Forget I said anything. Enigma (talk) 17:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC) Speedy delete for images Can images be speedy deleted? Image:Destination X 2008.jpg (which you deleted last week after it went 7 days with no source) has just been re-uploaded by the same editor. Once again he has provided no source (and also applied the wrong license, not that it matters). TJ Spyke 05:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC) He just uploaded the same pic AGAIN, and once again provided no source. He doesn't seem to be getting it. TJ Spyke 06:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC) User talk Update? Hi. Is it possible to configure Misabot so that it appends new archive names to the {{archive box}} tag? TINYMARK 13:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC) Thank you. TINYMARK 14:24, 16 February 2008 (UTC) Archiving question Hi Misza - I'm trying to help my adoptee, Grrrlriot (talk · contribs), set up archiving on her user talk page using your bot. I've been using it for months and I had no trouble setting it up, but I can't seem to make it work for her. Could you have a look and let me know what mind-numbingly dumb mistake I'm making? Sarcasticidealist (talk) 01:02, 17 February 2008 (UTC) Image upload and deletion stats (2007) If you have time, would you be able to comment on Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria compliance#Weekly uploads and deletions and bot taggings? Discussion should be taking place at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content criteria compliance. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 01:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC) User talk archiving problem Hi, i've been trying to set up MiszaBot III to automatically archive my talk page to anything longer than 3 days (as I used to use Werdnabot, but that has stopped working now and they directed me to Misza. I think I must have gotten something incorrect tho as it's still not archiving anything. I've looked over the help notes, but still not working properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated Timclare (talk) (sign here) 00:45, 20 February 2008 (UTC) US Portal talk archiving Hi, do you need to activate BotII to use it for Portal talk:United States? RichardF (talk) 15:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC) I guess not! ;-) RichardF (talk) 19:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC) Status of rewrite You've had your rewrite notice up a while now and I was just wondering what the status is. Many are anxiously awaiting your ability to recognize the {{resolved}} template.↔NMajdan•talk 14:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC) Most of the components are written, but works on integrating the bot are somewhat on hold for now as real-life issues aren't leaving me with enough free time. Миша13 19:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Archive Misza have i done the configuration correctly, i mainly manually archive my talkpage, but decided that i should let your bot to do but could you check the configuration. Terra What do you want? 18:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC) I've changed the 9 hours to 18 hours, is that fine, and thanks for correcting the code. Terra What do you want? 19:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC) I wouldn't say a thread that's 18 hours old qualifies for archival; even WP:AN/I uses 24 hours and that's an extremely busy forum. Most people use a setting of several days (5 in my case) on their talkpages, if not weeks. But that's your decision to make. Миша13 19:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC) I've increased it to 24 hours, mainly because i don't want my talkpage getting too long. Terra What do you want? 19:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Judging from the activity on your talk page, I don't predict it getting long anywhere soon. Besides, the bot won't even touch it unless there's more than a couple threads on it (or unless you adjust the minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive parameters; User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained). Also, not all people visit Wikipedia every day and they might consider it a wikiquette violation if their messages get archived before they have a chance to read the response. But then again, that's your decision, I'm only offering guidance. Миша13 20:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC) I've changed it to 70 hours, that should be long enough now. Terra What do you want? 20:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Gallardo Superlegerra My image was deleted. Why? I uploaded the image I took myself, and tagged it as well. Bearingbreaker92 | Talk 03:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC) If you're referring to Image:Gallardo Superlegerra.jpg (why make me guess?), you forgot to remove the "no license" tag after retagging it. That's why OrphanBot removed it from articles. Aditionally, my deletion bot didn't have {{self}} on the list of free license tags. Миша13 09:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC) Newsletter ready for delivery The PW newsletter is ready for delivery. If you may please deliver this newsletter as it is on a 2 week delay. Thank you.--TrUCo9311 23:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC) Extremely stupid question Hi Misza On the instructions for setting up archiving using your bots, you leave out one teeny tiny important piece of information: When does it kick in? How do we know if it is working? Does it happen immediately? Thanks Rfwoolf (talk) 09:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Not that stupid question, but still, you could figure that out from the bots' contribs. They run once daily (twice for AN and AN/I) at preset hours. 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 08:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC) Bot archival Hi Misza. I hate to be a wet rag, but I always found bot archival to be mind-numbingly complicated, although I'm usually good with programming stuff. Could you set up the bot archive Commons:Café? If I see you go through with an example, it might help. Thanks a million. 64.178.99.246 (talk) 16:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Thanks. 64.178.96.168 (talk) 19:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC) WP:AE We keep trying to add a "resolved" section to this page, for the resolved cases, but we think the bot keeps wiping it out. Sometimes the "resolved" header even appears in the archives. Can you check this out? Maybe it doesn't like single =. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC) I'm having difficulties finding that in the page history. Can you provide an example diff? Thanks, Миша13 21:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Me too (it's had lots of edits lately), I'm put the section back in and will keep a close eye on it. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC) OK, I've put it back. Can you look at the 00:11 edit and see if there's any reason the bot couldn't handle that setup? — Rlevse • Talk • 00:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC) It's something different. At present, the bot only recognizes ==second level== threads. Thus, a =first level= section header was treated as a part of the previous thread and archived along with it (but only the header and not content). The sections under the =completed= section were archived normally, i.e. when their time came. After the supposed rewrite, the bot should be able to handle any level threads, but not yet. You can put the completed section on a subpage and transclude it on the main one for now. Миша13 19:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC) BOT not wiping the resolved section [8], it pulls threads from both resolved and non-resolved without wiping out the resolved header, must be people keep changing it. Thanks for checking. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC) Na mojej. Witaj. Zanim jeszcze pójdę na urlop dokładny, muszę załatwić kilka spraw. Pierwsza: Jeśli mógłbyś odpowiadaj na mojej stronie dyskusji. Druga to to, że jakbyś chciał coś ode mnie/miał jakąś sprawę pisz pod e-mail Alden Jones małpa wp pl. Kolejna to obserwowanie strony wikipedysty tomty1, gdzie wandalizm zauważyłem po ok.2 m-cach. Poprosiłem również Visora aby sprawdzał tę stronę, ale wiadomo ostrożności nigdy za wiele. Ostatnia: Obserwuj wpisy użytkownika KatLos w dyskusjach innych użytkowników, momentami te wpisy, których dokonuje KatLos są nie na miejscu. Jeśli możesz odpisz na mojej stronie dysksuji. Z poważaniem. Paweł Alden or my talk page 17:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC) Image:Wiki2 uclalat 1387 b39 24931-1.jpg Could you undelete Image:Wiki2 uclalat 1387 b39 24931-1.jpg. I'd like to fix the problems with the image. --evrik (talk) 20:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC) Done. Миша13 21:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC) This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. Archive Map Special RfA-thanks Year 2005 Year 2006 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2007 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2008 I II III IV V VI Archive for March 2008 User talk page not archiving Hi there, MiszaIII doesn't seem to be archiving my articles. Seems to have stopped working. Any chance of a fix? Thanks for your help Timclare (talk) (sign here) 22:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC) Which articles? My bot serves hundreds of pages. I wish people were more specific instead of making me guess. Also, please check that the settings are correct, the template hasn't been tampered with and that there is sufficient material to be archived (at least 2 threads, with at least 5 more to remain). Миша13 21:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC) Archiving Misza13, can you archive my talk page. Thanks. --MisterWiki da ya think i'm sexy and ya want to speak me?, come on sugar let, come here! humour. - 23:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC) I don't archive talk pages. My bot does. If you wish it did so on your talk page, please read the instructions and only ask me if you encounter problems in the procedure (I strongly suggest picking a consistent archive naming convention - the bot will not guess what you have in mind). Миша13 21:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC) Here you go What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar Why haven't you gotten one of these already for programming MiszaBot and WdefconBot? Those two things are genius! Thus, you get this. Two One Six Five Five τ ʃ 17:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC) Archive of WP:ANI Hi, this evening's archive moved threads which had posts dated today in them. I didn't think the bot was supposed to do this. Can you look at it please? Cheers --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 20:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC) I'm sorry, but in this edit I can't find a single thread dated March 1st which was removed from the page. Can you point out one? Миша13 21:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC) Miszabot archiving algorithm Hello, I was wondering if you are close to providing any archiving algorithm beyond "old". Some pages should be archived as a snapshot at a specific interval, such as once a week. I could write a one-off code for what I want, but if you had something close it would be great. Gimmetrow 00:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC) In fact, the algorithm is ready. But I have written it for a more advanced version of the bot (a rewrite from scratch, basically) which is not yet entirely assembled. Миша13 20:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Importer Bot Misza13, I tried following the instructions to import news from wikinews into Portal:Fire but am not sure where I went wrong. If could or someone else you know wouldn't mind taking a look at it, I would appreciate it. The relevant pages are: Portal:Fire, Portal:Fire/Fire news, and [9]. Thanks, --Daysleeper47 (talk) 19:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC) The bot only updates pages whose names end with /Wikinews. Миша13 20:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Bot help for fixing redirects, in preparation for some template moves/renaming Please see Wikipedia:Requested moves#Incomplete and contested proposals - re: proposed changes/moves of usage of {{Scientology}} and {{Scientology}} and {{WikiProject Scientology}}. Your help/expertise in finding some quick way to fix the redirects of {{Scientology}}, to directly instead be to {{WikiProject Scientology}}, would be greatly appreciated. Cirt (talk) 20:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Please seek assistance on WP:BOTREQ - I'm afraid I don't have much free time to spend recently... Миша13 20:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Okay, will do. Cirt (talk) 21:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Prośba o mediację Witaj, zwracam się do Ciebie z prośbą o mediację. Czy ważne są prośby userów przez gg o zmianę ich strony? Pytam, bowiem 29 lutego zostalem poproszony o poprawę tej strony. 2 marca moja edycja została zrewertowana, a Visor nie pomyślał o tym, że może ten użytkownik zażyczył sobie zmiany, tylko od razu zrewertował. Dziwne dla mnie jest też, że gdy pewien wikipedysta (wolę zachować anonimowość tego użytkownika) wprowadzał zmiany na moją stronę użytkownika, na moją prośbę, wtedy Visorowi to nie przeszkadzało. Ogółem problem jest taki, że ostatnio w "real life" zwaliło mi sie sporo rzeczy na głowę: obowiązki zawodowe+studia+prywatne sprawy i sam nie mam zbyt czasu, aby to wyjaśniać, dlatego proszę Ciebie, jako doświadczonego użytkownika, mającego spore doświadczenie: jeśli możesz zainterweniuj w tej sprawie. Czekam na odpowiedź od Ciebie na temat wszystkiego co Ci napisałem, oraz na Twoją decyzję. Z wyrazami szacunku dla doświadczonego użytkownika Paweł Alden or my talk page 20:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Dodam jeszcze, że nie chcę wchodzić w żadne osobiste polemiki i editwary z Visorem, dlatego proszę o mediację. Paweł Alden or my talk page 21:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Problem już nieaktualny. Paweł Alden or my talk page 22:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC) WP:UNI newsletter is ready Hey! The WikiProject Universities February 2008 newsletter is ready to be distributed. If you can distribute it ASAP that would be great. If you have questions, I will refer you back to our original discussion. Thanks so much, you're a lifesaver!—Noetic Sage 00:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC) Tiny note about WQA Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts was nearly 300kb, so I archived some threads which were inactive, resolved, withdrawn, or referred elsewhere. Archives 39 and 40 are both over 100 kb now, Archive 41 is barely over 60kb with room for more. I'm just letting you know, O saviour of bloated noticeboards, because I heard somewhere that the bot has to be told which archive to use next. Keep up the GREAT work! — Athaenara ✉ 05:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC) BTW, Archive 41 (Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts/archive41) is not appearing on the main WP:WQA page in the archive list. Can you take a look and see what might be causing that? — KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC) That's because the archive navbox is maintained manually. Миша13 21:33, 5 March 2008 (UTC) Ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying - I didn't see anything on the WQA page that indicated how that worked. 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Ralbot (talk) 08:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC) Fault? Hi; the archiving on my talkpage seems to not be going ahead; can you see where the problem is? Cheers, —TreasuryTag talkcontribs 12:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC) Working now; don't worry! —TreasuryTag talk contribs 20:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC) Your fix to my user page Thanks! I've been meaning to ask about that. [10] Bovlb (talk) 20:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC) Heh I was wondering about that and was going to ask you . . . thanks. :) -WarthogDemon 00:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Bad archiving MiszaBotII sent the latest WT:CSD archiving to /dev/null. Just to let you know, can't see why it would have happened.--Nilfanion (talk) 12:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Thanks for fixing my talk page I'd lost track that I didn't know how to do that. Спасибо, Миша. Or is it 'dziekuje'?--Gregalton (talk) 12:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC) How to search subpage trees within Wikipedia You may find this section interesting: Template:Google custom/doc#How to search subpage trees within Wikipedia. It tells how to easily make an archive searchable. Perhaps you would consider mentioning it somewhere under User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#After you have set up archiving. --Teratornis (talk) 18:25, 3 March 2008 (UTC) That's quite irrelevant if you remember that the {{archive box}} template accepts a parameter auto=yes which auto-displays the list of archives as long as you use a standard naming of /Archive N. Миша13 20:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC) How does displaying a list of archive page titles allow searching on the full text of the content of those pages? Or perhaps I do not understand your referent of "That". --Teratornis (talk) 21:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Ah, I probably misunderstood - I read that as listing/indexing the archives and not searching. Interesting tip, thanks. Миша13 20:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC) User talk:Rcooley/Archive 1 Another editor has added the {{prod}} template to the article User talk:Rcooley/Archive 1, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 15:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC) WT:IAR We have changed the MiszaBot II settings on the page WT:IAR. Is it possible to force the bot to archive the page now? I understand that "force-refreshing" is not a tool you would want the public to have, but that talk page is over 300 KB long now. - Chardish (talk) 21:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Archiving my talk page Hi there. Just wanted to say thanks for fixing the archiving of my talk page; I couldn't work out why it wasn't working (I hadn't used the template correctly). I probably should have just asked you, but I see you noticed anyway and corrected it. Thanks again. :) Terraxos (talk) 03:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC) Archives Hello, I have a question regarding your bot, what's happened to archive one and two here?[11] Funkynusayri (talk) 13:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Hello Funky. I'm not Misza, but I notice when you set up your archiving you set the counter to start with Archive 3. There is no evidence that 1 or 2 were ever used. EdJohnston (talk) 19:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Ah, ok, there doesn't need to be evidence for anything, as I simply copied the parameters from another page, without really knowing what I was doing. What can I do yo change it? Funkynusayri (talk) 22:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC) One way to do it is: rename Archive 3 as Archive 1 (using the Move tab), rename Archive 4 as Archive 2, then edit your User_talk so that 'counter=2' in the bot instructions. The bot will then archive any newly-expiring items into Archive 2, and it will automatically increment the counter from now on as the archives fill up. EdJohnston (talk) 20:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC) All done. Миша13 21:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC) Thanks! Funkynusayri (talk) 00:09, 9 March 2008 (UTC) Bot not archiving comments marked with {{unsigned}} Hi Misza. Do you think you could edit the script to handle unsigned comments that are marked as such (e.g., [12])? I have tried both subst'ing the template, and directly using the template, but the bot does not recognize date stamp. If you need any help creating this, feel free to give me a shout; the changes should be fairly straight forward. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Evil Spartan (talk • contribs) 17:12, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Oh irony, you forgot you sign your own comment. It shouldn't matter whether the template is substed or not as long as there is a timestamp in the format of "HH:MM, D Month YYYY (UTC)" in the page's code. That thread you mention is on the other hand only 3 days old, whereas the archiving configuration for that page is set to archive 30 day old messages. Its time will come soon enough. Миша13 20:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC) This suggests that the use of {{unsigned}} with two parameters would allow the bot to take action, provided the time stamp is UTC. Even though that's a lot of typing. EdJohnston (talk) 21:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC) The auto-signing bot uses the two parameter version and so do I - it is a bit of a hassle to find the time of the post in page history (remember the "(UTC)") but I don't complain. Миша13 21:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC) OK, here's an example where it didn't work: [13]. The Evil Spartan (talk) 17:17, 8 March 2008 (UTC) Note the missing comma after the hour. <insert dumb face here> I can't possibly compensate for all variations, it's only a simple parser, you know... Миша13 18:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC) Ah. Apparently the unsigned template on commons needs fixing. The Evil Spartan (talk) 00:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.178.97.27 (talk) Can't sleep, clowns will ban me You may want to respond to this help request. Bovlb (talk) 23:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC) It did wipe out the section See [14], the bot did wipe out the resolved issues section, though it didn't the last time. ??? Can you look into this? Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC) See idea here. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC) bot I'm afraid you must get this question all the time, and I'm sorry, but the bot's not hitting my page. My code is: {{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 50K |counter = 9 |archive = User talk:Revolving Bugbear/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(3d) |minthreads = 1 }} Did I do something wrong? It archived once, and I toggled the max archive size, and now it won't anymore. - Revolving Bugbear 17:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC) ... Whatever just happened, it's now archiving again. - Revolving Bugbear 21:12, 9 March 2008 (UTC) I couldn't figure what was wrong, so I ran it manually on your talk page only. It sometimes just misses a page for a few days for unexplained reasons (I suspect it doesn't get extracted from Special:Whatlinkshere but am not sure - it's quite nondeterministic). Миша13 22:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC) Talk archive bot down? It ran once, but nothing since. Talk items are overdue for archiving. Please advise. DarkAudit (talk) 19:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC) Does this look like "down"? Миша13 20:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC) No, but it does look like a different bot. I checked the III log, and now I wonder if I broke something on my end. Items dated 2/26 should have been archived, but haven't yet. DarkAudit (talk) 20:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC) You should have been more specific regarding which bot, an that you actually had your talk page in mind. Please read User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained about minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive. In short, there are not enough threads on your talk page. Миша13 21:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC) WP:PW Newsletter The newsletter for WP:PW is ready to be released. It is here. Thanks! iMatthew 2008 02:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC) Archive size by date? Do I understand correctly that Miszabot cannot do a dated archive by size? Only numbered archive by size appears to work with current settings. --Brad (talk) 04:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC) I think it's quite logical. If archives are named by date, then assuming it filled up to the specified maximum, where would the excess threads go? Миша13 09:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC) My thoughts for a dated archive by size would be to report first topic date to last topic date within the alloted archive size. So if an archive started at 1 March 2008, filled by size on 15 March 2008 the next sized archive would start 15 March 2008 (If there were topics left over from 15 March that did not fit) and then dated when full, etc. So, a slower talk page might get something like an archive dated 12 January 2008 to 27 June 2008. --Brad (talk) 22:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC) "Dated when full" - that's the concept I didn't like when I designed the bot. That would most probably require it to move the page after it's closed - even with pywikipedia, the framework is still prone to errors and it often happens that it fails to either save an archive or the page (timeouts, edit conflicts, etc. - this is not a database and commits are not guaranteed to be atomic), not to mention having to execute an extra move. Миша13 20:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC) Chronological talk archive? Can the |archiveheader be set to {{Chronological talk archive|dates}}? If so, what should the date parameter be set to?--Doug.(talk • contribs) 23:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC) Or is the bot able to fill that in?--Doug.(talk • contribs) 00:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC) See my very own talk page - I have archiveheader = {{User:Misza13/Archive Header|header=Archive for %(monthname)s %(year)d}} - I just use a custom template instead of {{Chronological talk archive}}. Миша13 20:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC) Image:Zndjsalfjas.jpg Could you undelete Image:Zndjsalfjas.jpg? In going through the uploads of User:ChristyHuey and I believe that the images were just poorly tagged. I'd like the chance to fix them. Take a look at Image:Sophia Bush at TRL.jpg and Image:Normal 014.jpg. --evrik (talk) 18:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC) Done. Миша13 20:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC) Archiving My talkpage has the Archive script {{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 30K |algo = old(2d) |archive = User talk:Terra/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s }} This was changed today but the previous one was created on the 6th March and i had it set to archive my talkpage every 2 days so far the Archive bot hadn't archived my talkpage is there something wrong with the script previously, all the messages on my talkpage are very old now. Terra What do you want? 21:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC) Please see User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained. A combination of default values of minthreadsleft = 5 and minthreadstoarchive = 2 prevents the bot from acting when there are only 6 threads on your page (regardless of their age). Миша13 20:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC) I've updated the configuration on my talkpage, is there a chance if you could have a look at it, just to see if I've done it correctly, if I have I'll leave the script alone on my talkpage. Terra What do you want? 12:48, 14 March 2008 (UTC) It's working, I wondered what happened to my messages when I logged back on. Anyway I'm glad that your bot is now archiving my talkpage, impressive, first time seeing it in action on my talkpage. Terra What do you want? 14:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC) Would it possible if you could tell me how to include my Global-Borders, this is the current configuration. {{User:MiszaBot/config |archiveheader = {{User:Terra/archivemessage}} |maxarchivesize = 14K |counter = 2 |minthreadsleft = 1 |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |algo = old(2d) |archive = User talk:Terra/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s }} Would the configuration for the Global-Borders be this {{User:MiszaBot/config |archiveheader = {{User:Terra/Global-Borders}} |archiveheader = {{User:Terra/archivemessage}} |maxarchivesize = 14K |counter = 2 |minthreadsleft = 1 |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |algo = old(2d) |archive = User talk:Terra/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s }} I'm asking this so that I don't have to do it manually. Terra What do you want? 12:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC) That won't work (the last setting for a parameter is effective). But how about |archiveheader = {{User:Terra/Global-Borders}} {{User:Terra/archivemessage}}? Миша13 17:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC) Y Done however though is there a chance if the bot could try it with the messages which I've placed the archivetop & archivebottom template from my talkpage or should we just wait until it goes through the next archive process, which would probably be tomorrow. Terra What do you want? 18:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC) Bot Hello Im planning to start a bot in the Telugu Wikipedia. Im completely new to bots and everything. could you just help me on how to set up your bot for the Telugu Wikipedia. I have the archivebot.py file which came with the pywikipedia framework. Σαι ( Talk) 06:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC) Very difficult? Σαι ( Talk) 10:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC) It's certainly not trivial. Basically, you'll need a "template" like User:MiszaBot/config to place on talk pages. Then you need to run the bot - in most cases something equivalent to (and assuming the bot is configured and logged in - see pywikipedia for step-by-step instructions on using the framework): python archivebot.py 'User:MiszaBot/config' should do fine. But the bot can do more - like working only in specified namespaces, only on a specified page etc. A full help can be obtained by running: python archivebot.py --help —Миша13 10:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC) M.K Hej Misza piszę do ciebie już z konkretną sprawą. Przejdę od razu do rzeczy: wczoraj o godzinie 21:09 dałem wpis do dyskusji M.K: [15] O 21:36 M.K zrewertował moją wypowiedź w, której po rozmowie z Piotrusem na prive zarzuciłem M.K nieznajomość historii polski (przeczytaj linki) Dzisiaj o 12:05 rewertowałem M.K, który skasował niepochlebne dla siebie rzeczy. Chcę Cię poprosić o to, abyś miał tego gościa na oku i w przypadku dalszego takiego działania usera M.K zablokował go. Jeżeli blokady nie będą pomagać wniosę spór do Arbitration Comitte. Czekam na odpowiedź najlepiej na mojej stronie dyskusji. Alden or talk with Alden 12:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC) Do tego doszło jeszcze, że Renata 3 sstraszy mnie blokadą za ataki osobiste. Misza naprawdę proszę Cię zrób coś z tym, bo ten trolling działa mi już na nerwy. Alden or talk with Alden 14:59, 18 March 2008 (UTC) Nieaktualne, złamałem zasadę 3 rr wiec bedzie dobrze jak nie zostane zablokowany.. Alden or talk with Alden 16:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC) Problems archiving I have had different problems getting the bot to run (thanks for the help you have already given) but it never seems to archive my talk page every day (for the last 3days), it seems to do it sporadically. Could you take a look and see why it hasn't archived items that were posted on 8th March and the bot ran on 11th and 12 March. Thanks! Timclare (talk) (sign here) 20:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC) P.S. I used to use Shadowbot3 to archive my talk pages but having shut down switched over to MiszabotIII. However I think the problem above may be that it is leaving the 5 most recent items in the talk page. Is it possible to set it not to have the last 5 items left. When I was using shadowbot3 it archived all of the items. Thanks Timclare (talk) (sign here) 20:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC) Please see User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained and read about minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive. Миша13 10:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for March 13th and 17th, 2008. 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 23:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC) Mizzabot. Am i able to ask if the bot delivers the WikiProject Formula One Newsletter. This may seem rude but me and LB22 are looking for a bot. If I need to know more contact me. Chubbennaitor (leave me a message!) 20:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC) My talk page? Normally my talk page is updated/archived by your bot, but lately it seems to not be archiving...--Jimbo Wales (talk) 23:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC) Depends on what you mean by "lately". It did visit you yesterday and I suspect it will today (in some 3 hours from now). Mind you, however, that it will only archive when there are at least 2 threads to be moved (the default value of the minthreadstoarchive variable - you can read more about them on User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained). If you however simply want less threads on your talk page then I suggest adjusting the algo=old(5d) part from 5 days to something less - I suppose 3 should be enough in your case (it means that threads that have the newest timestamp 3 or days older will be archived). Cheers, Миша13 10:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC) Status Can you add a 'school' tab for the status script. Obviously you would have to create a separate status.js - but it would help. Thanks, - Milk's Favorite Cookie 01:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC) Obviously or not. :> I have updated the script to be configurable in this regard - please see User:Misza13/Scripts#statusChanger and scroll to the bottom of the section - it explains how to add new statuses (you'll have to update your template too). Миша13 11:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Happy easter! Open your card >> >> >> Happy easter you guys! Sorry if the picture looked crappy, but it's the best I could do on such short notice. Sincerely, BoL (Talk) 04:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC) Credits: This card was inspired by BoL, an administrator/bureaucrat and head designer of Codesnippets. Join the community today! WP:PW When you get a chance. the newest edition of the WP:PW newsletter is ready to be delivered. Thanks! iMatthew 2008 19:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC) Wait, hold on. I'll leave you a message tomorrow when it is ready, as it is not yet. Sorry for the inconvenience. iMatthew 2008 02:39, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Hehe, here's where my laziness pays off - I was about to send it yesterday evening but was too lazy to do so and have put it up until today. Ok, waiting for signal. Миша13 11:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC) lol. Here's the signal, it's ready to go. Thanks! iMatthew 2008 15:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC) MiszaBot III Non-archive? Is there any way I can make a section not be archived [short of removing timestamps], prehaps by writing "MiszaBot, do not archive! or some such? Whilst the rest of the page is archived? Thanks, Microchip 08 12:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Please {{talkback}} on my user talk when you reply. Thanks. There is no explicit tag, but I would add some extremely futuristic timestamp like <!-- 00:00, 1 January 3000 (UTC)--> - this way the thread should never (in this millennium anyway) age to be archived. A hack, but works. On a side note, {{talkback}} is a sorry excuse for laziness. Миша13 17:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Ah, but it saves having to add more than the 536 pages already on the watchlist. Thanks. Microchip 08 17:09, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Wikipedia:New contributors' help page I set up the bot code on this page. It ran once fine and then I went and changed the archive header. Since then it has not run. I made this change today to take out the archive header if that was the problem. Would you mind taking a peak and seeing if there is anything wrong. GtstrickyTalk or C 15:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC) I noticed your change. Thanks! GtstrickyTalk or C 17:36, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Your bot on my talk page Hi, yesterday I tried to set my talk page up to be archived by your bot. I'm not sure I've done it correctly. Would you mind checking, and, if something's wrong, either fixing it, or telling me how to do so? Thank you, Aleta Sing 17:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Quick response, thank you very much! Thank you for the bot service, too! :) Aleta Sing 17:51, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Status switcher Since your script was my inspiration, I figure you might like to know about something that I am working on called: Qui. It is still a work in progress, not working on IE and with some HTML and CSS that still need some cleaning, but the basics works for now. Big smile to you !. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:22, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Status switcher Hello Misza13: I've installed your status switcher, but when I clicked "out", the script created this page. Could you please fix the bug? Macy (talk) 00:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC) Done. You may need to clear your cache. Many thanks for pointing that out. o_O Миша13 10:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC) Edits made to Omega-3 fatty acid There was possibly a screwup in edits made by the bot for Talk:Omega-3 fatty acid. See the revision history for that article. The bot's edit were reverted. I don't know what exactly could've gone wrong, but if you investigate, maybe you can find out if there was actually any problem, and fix it. --AB (talk) 14:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC) It was my fault; I set the bot up wrong. It should work this time. —Werson (talk) 20:24, 25 March 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for March 24th, 2008. Weekly Delivery Volume 4, Issue 13 24 March 2008 About the Signpost Single User Login enabled for administrators Best of WikiWorld: "Clabbers"  News and notes: $3,000,000 grant, milestones Wikipedia in the News  Dispatches: Banner shells tame talk page clutter WikiProject Report: Video games  Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News  The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 07:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC) User:Wikinews Importer Bot What is the logic of User:Wikinews Importer Bot? Does it look at WP:ITN for items with {{ChicagoWikiProject}} on the talk page or some similary method?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC) Have a look at the bot's page - it imports pages from Wikinews. For example, Portal:Film/Film news/Wikinews gets fed from n:Portal:Film/Wikipedia. Миша13 22:04, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Happy Birthday! Happy Birthday, Misza13/Archives/2008, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! wwesockssign 05:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Happy Birthday too. Microchip 08 08:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Happy Birthday from the Birthday Committee Wishing Misza13/Archives/2008 a very happy birthday on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Don't forget to save us all a piece of cake! --Nadir D Steinmetz 10:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Hungry? Here's a little snack for you on your birthday, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day, Misza13/Archives/2008! I also vaguely remember giving you a "What a Brilliant Idea!" star for building Wdefcon/MiszaBot (although I rpobably should've used a Bot Builder star)... 21655 τalk/ ʃign 18:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Thanks, everyone! Cheers, Миша13 22:04, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Talk:Mostrim railway station Not opposing the edit automatically, but is there a CSD or other justification for deleting this page? Stifle (talk) 20:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC) No specific CSD, just general housekeeping (you're free to call it pointless). Reversing your question, is there a reason to keep a redirect to a talk page that's not even referenced? Миша13 22:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC) No, was just wondering as I haven't kept up with policy very well lately and was wondering if things had changed. Stifle (talk) 12:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC) Help with Miszabot Hi - I've tried to set up Miszabot to archive Wikiproject Aircraft's talk page, but must have munged it up somehow, because it doesn't seem to be working. When you've got a minute, could you please see what I've done wrong? Thanks in advance! --Rlandmann (talk) 01:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC) The problem is that normally archives should be strict subpages of page being archived. This is not the case, so the bot refuses to work. There are two solutions. The easier one is for me to provide a magic key that will unlock the restriction for that page. The appropriate one is to change the target to a subpage, i.e. archive = Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft/Archive %(counter)d and preferably move all previous archives, so they can be auto-indexed using {{archive box}}. Let me know which you prefer and if you decide on moving old archives, I can run a bot that will batch-move them. Миша13 17:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC) If it's not too much hassle, could you please run the bot and relocate the old archives? Setting up "special case" exemptions is too often a recipe for disaster in the future...! --Rlandmann (talk) 07:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC) Done. Миша13 20:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC) Many many thanks! :) --Rlandmann (talk) 20:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC) Talk:Omega-3 fatty acid I added a bot header to Talk:Omega-3 fatty acid and undid the revisions after I put the wrong settings in; since then the page has not been archived at all. Is there a reason? —Werson (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:11, 28 March 2008 (UTC) Now that Miszabot's being rewritten... Now that Miszabot's being rewritten, I have a feature request. I think I requested it early last year, but now that it's being rewritten it would be a good time for me to ask again. It would be nice if one could change the {{archive}} template at the top of archived pages, and instead have it use a different one via the configuration template. It's always a pain to have to change it every month (the "current talkpage" link never points to the real talk page). Cheers, tim.bounceback 14:18, 30 March 2008 (UTC) I thinks that's already supported to a degree that should satisfy your needs. There is an archiveheader parameter. It uses {{talkarchive}} as default, which (I think) correctly points to the real current talk (ever since it's been fixed). Can you point out an example where it doesn't work and required manual intervention? Миша13 14:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC) Sorry, you can tell I just came back from a long wikibreak ;-). Thanks for pointing that out. Cheers, tim.bounceback 14:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC) Actually, I should probably point out that (for me) everything archives in a format like this: User talk:Tim.bounceback/Archives/Month Year, so it points to User talk:Tim.bounceback/Archives. tim.bounceback 14:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC) That seems to be the case because the fix got reverted for no good reason and I just had to reintroduce it again. Миша13 14:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC) Thanks, it works now :-). tim.bounceback 19:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC) Support for nowiki date format Hi, I'm trying to set up archivebot.py on nowiki, but it fails as we use a different date format. We use the follwing format: 30. mar 2008 kl. 18:36 (CEST) This is the same time as 16:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC) Note that the month names are localized, the months being "jan, feb, mar, apr, mai, jun, jul, aug, sep, okt, nov and des" and that the timezone varies between CET and CEST. What would be the proper way add support for our date format? ZorroIII (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC) And as always... You faithfully beat me to the username block :P: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:%22Persian_Poet_Gal_is_a_fat_bitch%22_-Catgnat%2C_2008...¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 18:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC) And I thought you gave up fighting with a bot long time ago... :P —Миша13 18:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC) March 2008 WikiProject Universities newsletter is ready! Hello! The March 2008 Newsletter for WikiProject Universities is ready to go. Delivery and everything you did last month worked great! Let me know if you have any questions, thanks!—Noetic Sage 03:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC) The bot looks like it ignored Wikipedia:WikiProject_Universities/Outreach#Delivery_options. Or at least in my case (it looks like others on the list did not receive the newsletter). It wasn't a huge issue, just a heads-up. Metros (talk) 18:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC) Ah, that's because "Metros232" is on the participant list, which is why "Metros" on the opt-out didn't exclude you from delivery. When the delivery list was ready, the bot just followed a redirect and didn't double-check against the list again. Meh, a rare bug. Миша13 19:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC) Oh weird. I've updated it on that list. Thanks for figuring that out, Metros (talk) 19:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC) Help archiving my talk page I am in desperate need of help with the proper code to have MiszaBot archive my user talk page. My intention is to have the bot archive my page based on time, say every 15 days. Is this the proper code to use: {{User:MiszaBot/config |algo = old(15d) |archive = User talk:Ukexpat/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s }} Do I need to manually create the archive subpage(s) or does the bot create it automatically? Do I need a "counter" option so that the various archive pages are created or archived to incrementally? Help please!!! Thanks.  – ukexpat (talk) 17:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC) The above looks perfectly fine to me. The bot will create the subpages on its own. Also, the counter is irrelevant when you use an archive naming scheme based on thread date, so must not be specified. Миша13 17:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC) This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. Archive Map Special RfA-thanks Year 2005 Year 2006 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2007 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2008 I II III IV V VI Archive for April 2008 Eyebot Hi, Misza. I've been trying to convert my antispam adminbot to use your eyebot framework, but am having a bit of trouble with it - and was wondering if you'd be willing to help me out here. Since it seems like you're like me and have been enjoying a bit of reduced activity, I wanted to know if it's OK to really start bothering you. :-) east.718 at 02:26, April 1, 2008 I'm not exactly being less active by choice. Not long ago I got this thing called real life, you know... I would nevertheless be willing to help (as time permits) - just ask the question (here or via mail if you prefer) and we'll see when I get around to answer it. Миша13 21:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC) Thanks a million! This is what I've got so far - I took out the threading and most of the remote control functions since they're not really needed for me. Right now it detects and reports page creations fine, but seems to refuse to do anything related to the wikipedia or userlib libraries. I'd appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction on fixing this. east.718 at 01:59, April 2, 2008 MiszaBot II and archiving talk pages Woukd it be possible to tweak it to recognise the date-stamp in my sig? Rich Farmbrough, 11:16 1 April 2008 (GMT). Not directly, I'm afraid. But you could (if possible) add a regular timestamp to your signature, albeit hidden in comments. Миша13 21:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for March 31st, 2008. Weekly Delivery Volume 4, Issue 14 31 March 2008 About the Signpost Wikimania 2009 to be held in Buenos Aires Sister Projects Interview: Wikisource  WikiWorld: "Hammerspace" News and notes: 10M articles, $500k donation, milestones  Dispatches: Featured content overview WikiProject Report: Australia  Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News  The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 21:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC) A bug in MiszaBot II? Please take a look at WP:AN#Notice, which seems to claim there's a bug in a bot you operate. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC) Archiving target on AN This diff [16] has mizabot claiming an archive to /dev/null. Is there a problem?AKAF (talk) 06:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC) May I suggest that one solution would be to check that the archive destination is a subpage of the page to be archived? Ie ANI>>ANI/ArchiveXX. If it is not a subpage, then return an error and stop. How often is the desired destination not a subpage?AKAF (talk) 09:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC) It does perform such a check and skips the page if it's not satisfied. Additionally, it allows the target to be blank. Миша13 11:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC) Biurokrata Hej Misza, czy nie zastanawiałeś się nad kandydaturą na biurokratę na EN-Wiki? Niedługo będzie masa roboty w zw. z wprowadzeniem SUL-u, na polskiej wiki głosowań na biurokratę się mnoży, a na en nie mamy niestety polskiego biurokraty:( Zawsze to jakiś prestiż. Pytałem się Piotrusa o to samo co ciebie, ale nie chciał. Ja za to formalnych wymogów na admina nie spełniam:) Alden or talk with Alden 22:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC) Codesnippets Are a wikian Codsnippets wikia cause i am and well it seem's that are very familar like the time i found penubag and Macys123 on Codsnippets my Codesnippets wikia username is Wiki Wiki Dogg 101 i will most likley respond to your message on metal wikia just metal.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wiki_Wiki_Dogg_101 and go to my contribs their not mine cause i will let you when i am ready ok so well also penubag is leaving wikipedia for a little while but will be back that's the new's right now.  Demon Hunter Rules  {UserTalkPage} 19:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC) Evolution Hey Misza. I know you've been busy lately, but Evolution has been having some serious trouble with sleeper accounts vandalizing. Would it be possible to have a bot auto-revert the vandalism and then ping in a channel (any channel will do) with a direct block link? The vandalism is always replacing large parts of the text with Genesis -- pretty easy to spot. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC) MiszaBot Resolved. Hi, the bot used to be archiving at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts, but it doesn't seem to have done anything since March 24, and there are many threads on the page older than the 14 day cutoff. Any suggestions how we can "goose" the bot to start up again? --Elonka 09:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC) FYI, it's still not working. An ANI report is here: [17] --Elonka 22:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC) All better now!  :) --Elonka 06:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC) WP:PW Newsletter The latest issue is ready for delivery here. Thank you! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 06:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC) A little help... I forgot how to get to my archived pages Thnx, Habaneroman SignTalk 21:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC), esq. I'm not Misza, but I notice that you have some archived Talk postings in User_talk:Habaneroman/Archive/2007. I'm not sure why there are none archived for 2008 yet. Perhaps those newsletter postings don't qualify for archiving. Since you had your account renamed in fall 2007, you should change this line in the MiszaBot configuration on your Talk: archive = User talk:Ootmc/Archive/%(year)d SHOULD BE: archive = User talk:Habaneroman/Archive/%(year)d EdJohnston (talk) 22:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Activation of MiszaBot III? Do I need to request or sign up to have MiszaBot III archive my user talk page? I had placed {{User:MiszaBot/config}} (with proper parameters, I thought) on the page about a little more than a week ago and thought from the instructions that that was all that was needed. Any info appreciated. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC) Argh. I hate when I do stuff like that. Sorry to bother you about it, and thanks again. — Bellhalla (talk) 17:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC) Counter update bug? Miszabot is archiving Talk:Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. Archive 2 reached its limit a few days ago, but Miszabot hasn't incremented the counter to Archive 3. As a result, each day it adds one thread to #2, checks and finds the size is too big, and adds the rest to #3. I could fix the problem by changing the counter manually, but that wouldn't fix the bug. —WWoods (talk) 02:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC) Hi! A few things, Your bot isn't archiving my talk page. Would it be okay if I ran your bots over at the simple english wikipedia? Thanks, CWii(Talk|Contribs) 19:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Duh! Go right ahead. Миша13 13:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Quickie Question If Misza goes to archive a page and it has a blacklisted link in it, will Misza be unable to archive the page? Trying to figure out if a blacklisted link is why the bot hasn't archived Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films in awhile. Did a manual archive, removing the link, to try to fix, but curious to see if that was indeed the issue. Collectonian (talk) 17:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC) Misza (me) doesn't archive pages; MiszaBot (my bot) does. And of course it won't - no reason why it should be able to bypass the spamfilter. Миша13 13:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Archiving problem Hi, something odd is happening with the archiving of Wikipedia:No_original_research/noticeboard. I found an Archive 1 had been created, but with no content, then the bot created an Archive 4 with what should have been in 1. Would you mind taking a look? SlimVirgin talk|edits 04:12, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Zabezpieczenie Hej mógłbyś zabezpieczyć Armia Krajowa z powodu wojny edycyjnej Proszę akurat Ciebie a nie Piotrusa o zabezpieczenie tego artykułu ponieważ też jesteś Polakiem, a po drugie Piotrus jest stroną zaangażowaną w spór w tym artykule, a Ty jesteś osobą bezstronną. Jeśli możesz odpisz na mojej dyskusji. Rodzaj zabezpieczenia: edycja tylko dla adminów. Alden or talk with Alden 08:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC) doesn't archive auto-signed comments On my talk page (link in sig), there's a post that wasn't originally signed, that was automatically signed by a bot right after, that's not being archived. I think it's a bug in the archiving bot. Is it known already? I see that you're rewriting the bot. ETA on that? Could you make sure the rewritten bot doesn't have this bug? If it'll be long before you release the rewritten bot, could you put a fix in the current one? — Mini-Geek (talk) 11:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Not a bug - expected behaviour - see my reply to post right above and read about those parameters. Миша13 13:36, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Bot III Your bot ws excellent in doing an archive of my talk page, but nothing since, despite threads passign the archive by date. I presume this is my fault, but could you advise? Thanks. MikeHobday (talk) 11:24, 13 April 2008 (UTC) See User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained and read about minthreadsleft and minthreadstoarchive. Миша13 13:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Clearly! Thanks again. MikeHobday (talk) 15:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC) LesTout.com Image LesTout.com was recently unprotected from salted location. Image:LesTout-favicon.png and Image:lestout-2008-screenshot.png is being deleted during the time article was unprotected. Can I request you to bring both the images back or should I upload both the image once more. Thanks.--Shivaji Mitra (talk) 05:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Also during the time the orginal article was not unprotected, I was actively working on the same article in a user-space subpage User:Shivaji Mitra/LesTout.com.--Shivaji Mitra (talk) 06:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Redirects and speedy deletion One such discussion started at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#CSD G6 clause "cleaning up redirects". I've also proposed that anyone who wants to expand the current criteria for speedy deletion of redirects do so over there. For you specifically, though, what can be done about the code you publish conflicting with Wikipedia standards? What is to stop other admins running the code and "cleaning up redirects" without realising that there are objections? This is why admin bots need open discussion. Carcharoth (talk) 10:31, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Indeed I haven't provided any licensing information in my files. Yet by default I use the MIT License which, among others, states that "THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND", a.k.a. "use it at your own risk" - there is no way to actually prevent anyone from running any code - disclaimers or not. It's the spirit of open sourcedness. Additionally, let me reiterate: admins always run adminbots on their own risk and are accountable for each and every sysop action they perform. Миша13 15:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC) I looked it over a bunch of times, honest! I hate that I didn't figure this out myself, but why is the bot not archiving at Talk:Divine_Light_Mission? please/thank-you. -- Maelefique (talk) 05:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC) Ugh... I knew it was gonna be something simple! Thanks for that. Is that mentioned in the archiving setup page? Might save you a bunch of msgs if you added a sentence about topics with spaces, unless of course, it's already in there! Thanks again. -- Maelefique (talk) 15:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for April 7th and 14th, 2008. Sorry, it seems that the bot quit before completing its run last week. Here is the last two weeks' worth of Signpost. 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 08:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Armia Krajowa pp-protect I'm curious who requested for you to apply pp-protect to this page?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 13:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Alden Jones pointed my attention to the article 3 threads above. I was slightly hesitant few hours ago but your recent fire exchange with Darwinek has put me over the top. Миша13 14:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC) And what do you hope to achieve by this pp-protect? If an article requires a pp-protect, then I would say it also requires to go back to the sandbox since it obviously failed the B-rating for which it was nominated.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 23:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Misza, I would like to point out that when a single user is adding unreferenced claims and revert warring - breaking 3RR! - over them (Talk:Armia_Krajowa#Soviet_partisans_largest.3F), the best solution may not be to protect the article (keeping the version with an unreferenced dubious claim) but to deal with the (single) user who violated 3RR ([18], [19], [20], [21]). PS. For the record, I am not requesting a block - Mrg3105 is an otherwise good editor, that he went too far here should not prevent him from contributing to talk or other pages. But protection is not needed, just a reminded that he should watch the 3RR.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:12, 13 April 2008 (UTC) It seemed to me that there are at least two editors ont "that side", as M.K reverted to the current version. That's why I reasoned that this should be stopped before mode editors step in on both sides and the deispute brews into a full-fledged war with a nationalist background. It is always sad when an article gets protected because of a few editors but experience tells that it encourages sides to cooperate (in this case, providing sources backing their claims perhaps?). Regarding 3RR, I'm not the type that counts those reverts down to a milisecond, understanding that people get swayed by the heat of the moment. Миша13 15:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC) I'd agree with you, however consider this: protecting the article in the version preferred by the editors who have failed to cite their references is hardly going to make them do anything - their version is now safe from being reverted back, so why should they do anything more? After you protected the article, I have started a new section on talk asking for references for the dubious claim (do note we have plenty of refs to the contrary in the article and on talk already); there is so far no response with refs, but instead more ORish research - plus bad faith about you (due to your Polish background). Please note that there is nothing I can do: I have already presented several refs here disputing the unreferenced claim that led to this edit war. How long are we to wait, protecting the version of the article that violates WP:OR and WP:V, if - as I predict - the other side will not present any references (they already had two days to do so). Do also note that the article in the version without those ORish claims have passed GA and mil hist A-class review. PS. All that said, I also have a final question: once we lift the protection, whenever this happens, how do we stop those editors from edit warring and inserting their unreferenced text? This is why I'd prefer warning them - which may make them rethink their disruptive behavior - rather then protecting the version of the article which only makes them satisfied.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:21, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Piotr, you are disingenuous. Firstly I had not broken the 3R. Secondly, it is blatantly obvious that your suggestion "to deal with the (single) user", namely myself, is your idea of getting out of a discussion you don't want to be in. That's an interesting tactic; if you don't like the message, just "kill" the messenger. Where have I seen that before? I am not one of "the editors who have failed to cite their references", you are. Your references are all derived from sources that all sound the same, and fail to provide Comparative contextual analysis as part of Content analysis commonly found in Comparative research in this case specifically in Historical comparative research. The first source I questioned, who is a retired professor and a specialist on Polish-Soviet relations with other published works, immediately agreed with my proposition, and corrected her own notes. For your benefit I will contact each and every one of the editors of the sources you site, though some (like Oxford University Press) do not allow direct contact with authors (just heard from history and social sciences editor today). I have heard the "disruptive behavior" rhetoric before, but have you read WP:SYN? It is not disruptive to question claims even IF they are referenced. That is the point of article assessment - to discuss it based on its merits. In the academia its called peer review. If you can't handle it, I suggest you find yourself a different hobby.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 23:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Misza, for the record, as the article will be unprotected soon. I've tried to deal with that editor. He has not provided any sources, he at best quotes other wikipedians or some unverifiable emails, and he keeps on offending the other contributors. I expect that with such attitude, we will see the edit war resuming soon.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 05:09, 17 April 2008 (UTC) I'm keeping an eye on the issue (on the talk page at least) and so far I am glad that any discussion at all is taking place. Most specifically, I'm looking forward to the summarizing thread and how it concludes - my impression being that the unverified claims can (and will soon) be removed. If further warring (by any side) continues after this point, I might resort to other means of policy enforcement and/or take an active role as a mediator. Миша13 18:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Well the second issue got resolved, I hope. The first one, alas - is still going on, with one side failing to present any sources to back them up, but insisting on adding the NPOV tag to the article. Several neutral editors have so far commented on talk that they find the article neutral, I don't know what can be done - one side, we have an overwhelming consensus of editors and on the other, a dedicated one or two who just won't give up and will keep restoring the tag till... I don't know what.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 05:28, 19 April 2008 (UTC) I don't know which "unverified claims" you refer to, or whom you are going to apply WP:BP to, but go easy with your threats. You are welcome to contribute to the discussion, but your administrative "abilities" will not conjure up better sources, or clearer historical data. I also don't need any mediation. There is no dispute, other then the epistemological one. I don't need any summarising disputes to restate for the umpteenth time what I have already said elsewhere. Anastasia was called in, and she had kindly provided the sources to back up my statements based on general knowledge. If you Piotr can't accept this, then there is very little I can do about it, particularly since the recent declaration by another editor that all Soviet historians are not to be taken seriously.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 05:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC) Image:Chalogo1.png Hi Misza. Last year you deleted Image:Chalogo1.png as lacking fair use information. Could I ask you to undelete this image so that I can add the fair use information? Thanks in advance. Powers T 17:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Hi Misza, hate to bug you but I'd appreciate a yes or no on this request. Thanks! Powers T 14:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC) Done. Sorry, your post kinda slipped my attention in the crowd. Миша13 14:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC) Thanks! Powers T 18:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC) Regarding my comment It seems to me that mediation is always a better solution then just putting the discussion off for a few days. This is not the case of a dispute though, but points made by myself relevant to the facts, or claims, and layout as well as language use in the article. Its not something that was likely to change after a few days, or weeks, etc. The English rendering of Misza made me think you were from Poland, and somewhat suspicious of motives. Nationality however really has no bearing on the discussion here, other then the fact that many sources used are in Polish, and therefore really need to be quoted and translated, at least in talk, if requested. What I really didn't appreciate is the use of your admin privileges without any discussion in talk.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 23:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Apologies Sorry for insulting your Bot. I'm sure it was very good, it's just that I couldn't get it to work. Best wishes, --Major Bonkers (talk) 13:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC) Still, I fixed it for you and yet you didn't give it a chance to catch up, and still call it "foul", meh... Миша13 14:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC) Have a drink on me. True, although I have removed what abuse I could! I apologise again. Thank you very much for your help, even though I haven't used it. I'm afraid that the simple truth is that I'm not very good with computers; I managed to get Werdnabot to work and it worked brilliantly until January this year, when it suddenly stopped and, as you can see, my Talk page has rapidly filled up with the usual abuse/ complaints. The fault is not with your Bot, it's just that I'm too thick to work it! Best wishes, --Major Bonkers (talk) 14:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC) On helping Artsojourner with archiving Many many thanks. Artsojourner (talk) 02:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC) viewSource I have attempted to install viewSource, but it has changed nothing. I have logged out and then in. I have closed my browser (Firefox, v. 2.0.0.14). Nothing gets it to work. What should I do? --SMP0328. (talk) 01:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC) Did you try WP:CACHE? Миша13 18:08, 19 April 2008 (UTC) Never mind. When I started my computer today and went to Wikipedia, viewSource was functioning correctly. I guess I should have rebooted my computer. --SMP0328. (talk) 19:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC) That had nothing to do with it by itself - you should have cleared your browser's cache (like you should every time you install new code into your monobook) - otherwise it may only happen spontaneously. Миша13 19:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC) MiszaBot I and talk page archives Could you change MiszaBot I so that it follows WP:ARCHIVE a bit more closely, please? The {{talkarchive}} tag should be at the top and bottom of an archive page, and an {{archive-nav}} tag with the appropriate archive number should be included on the archive page as well. Also, the talk page's {{archive box}} should be updated when a new archive is added. I just had to manually fix those things elsewhere, so it would be nice if they were included in the bot. Thanks. -- HiEv 17:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC) What is put on top of the page is controlled by the archiveheader parameter. {{archive box}} has a parameter auto which makes it update whenever a new archive is started. Handling an extra footer of the page is too much of a hassle for me for too little gain, sorry. Миша13 18:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC) Archiving question Hi, your bot has been archiving my talk page. In its latest run, it put "ARCHIVE FULL" in the edit summary. Will it automatically change the parameter to start the new archive page, or do I manually need to set it? Thanks, Aleta Sing 13:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Nevermind, I see where it already started the next one. Aleta Sing 21:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Archiving bot parameter limits Misza, first thanks for all the work of your bots. They really are a big help. There is a concern at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Fake_New_Messages about User talk:Jeanenawhitney setting the archive bot to archive at 1 hour. Some people are concerned but just an FYI of how it could be misused, so just something to think about. Thanks! -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC) WP:PW Newsletter The latest issue is ready for delivery here. Thanks! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 00:11, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Wait, not yet, give me a little bit and I'll leave you a message. iMatthew 2008 00:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC) It will be ready sometime tomorrow, and I'll leave you a message. iMatthew 2008 01:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Ok, it's ready. Sorry for the wait! iMatthew 2008 11:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC) I'm sure you noticed the problem right? iMatthew 2008 16:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC) Duh! I noticed and fixed that somewhere halfway through the delivery. Sadly, I don't really have time to make and run a bot that would remove that extra text - I'll just have to make a more thorough review on the next delivery. Миша13 17:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC) Archiving of my Talk Page Hi Misza13 ;). A couple of days ago, I added the config template to my talk page. I've clearly done something stupid, or am misunderstanding the config template, but I expected the top thread on my talk page to be archived today (being older than 30 days), but MiszaBot II has passed the I's now... if you've got a mo, could you glance over it for me, and tell me what I've done wrong? Thanks! TalkIslander 14:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Scrub that - it was me being stupid. I set it to archive a minimum of two threads, but only one was older than 30 days. Appologies for wasting your time ;). TalkIslander 15:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC) Thanks I saw your name on my watchlist and remembered you as the user who welcomed me to Wikipedia back in July. I just want to say thanks for welcoming be back then and helping me become the user that I am today. STORMTRACKER 94 Go Irish! 19:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC) Bot broke it again The bot took out the resolved link again, see [22]. Can you fix the bot so it won't do this? — Rlevse • Talk • 10:17, 25 April 2008 (UTC) I am desperately trying to make myself clear on this issue, but apparently I keep being misunderstood. Please fathom the following concept: the line with the text =Resolved notices= is the last line of the ==second level== thread that precedes it. That's how the bot sees the page at the moment, and until I finish the rewrite (which I don't have time for recently), there's nothing that can be done about it. Миша13 12:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC) German username block I think I just blocked a related one. could you chime in here: [23] if you know what's going on, and review my block of the other account? --barneca (talk) 13:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC) Oddities archiving Talk:Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed Hi. MiszaBot I has been creating large numbers of almost-empty archives on Talk:Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed recently. The page is insanely voluminous which had caused the bot problems in the past. Additionally, checking the page history, I found that this change was recently made to its settings. If you could let me know what settings to set up for maximisedly-bulletproof operation of the bot for a high volume talkpage, I would appreciate it. Thanks. HrafnTalkStalk 15:33, 24 April 2008 (UTC) Does it help if parts are manually archived, or would that confuse the bot even further? The page there is getting over 450k. --Merzul (talk) 10:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC) Cannot use; feel am stupid Resolved. I've tried copying configs from the Talk pages of other users. I've read all of the instuction page. I've tried manually creating an "Archive 1" page. I have run out of ideas. Why does the bot do nothing? SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 13:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC) Actually, I may have made an error. I'll let you know if so. SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 14:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC) Cut and paste problem. My bad. SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 15:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for April 21st, 2008. 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Ralbot (talk) 16:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC) Image deletion I checked the deletion log and noticed you deleted a picture I uploaded here because it had no copyright status.Within deleting it,you do realize I have no idea how to copyright.Owlwinds (talk) 20:27, 25 April 2008 (UTC) What image? Please don't make me guess. Also please post messages properly instead of breaking the layout of my page. Миша13 21:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC) Deletion of sock usertalk page A long while back you deleted this page. This is a sock and there was evidence on the page. Is there a reason the page was deleted other than that it (apparently incorrectly) showed up in CAT:TEMP? If not, can we undelete it? The user has showed back up and made further edits. I'd prefer to restore, blank, tag, and possibly lock the page. But you deleted so better to ask you first in case you know something I don't.  ;-) --Doug.(talk • contribs) 02:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC) Hearing nothing, I deleted the new page which had only nonsense on it and redirected it to the userpage.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 17:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC) Found another one here; same puppeteer.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 02:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC) Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed Miszabot does not seem to be working on the talk page of this article. Can you help? --Filll (talk) 13:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC) It's now archiving inactive sections all right, but it isn't cutting them from the Talk page, or updating the counter. Of course, the poor bot may simply be choking on the sheer size of the thing. —WWoods (talk) 15:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC) Nope. Oddly enough, the bot receives edit conflicts on archive pages (because they were deleted - the framework thinks it was *just* deleted). Миша13 17:13, 30 April 2008 (UTC) Question I can't seem to make the archivebot.py working right. Can you give me an example syntax? Not the archivebot.py [OPTION] [LINK(S)] but the real syntax that one will use to make the bot archive something. I plan to use is at tl wiki. -- Felipe Aira 04:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC) That is the real syntax. Anyway, the simplest would be: python archivebot.py "User:MiszaBot/config" where User:MiszaBot/config is the template used for configuration. All others are just bells and whistles (like, running only on a specified page, in a specified namespace, etc). Миша13 17:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC) This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. Archive Map Special RfA-thanks Year 2005 Year 2006 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2007 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2008 I II III IV V VI Archive for May 2008 New WP:UNI newsletter ready! I'm just letting you know that the April 2008 Newsletter for WikiProject Universities is ready to go. Let me know if you have any questions, thanks!—Noetic Sage 04:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC) I'm Guessing I Should Talk To You, Too. I am getting a bit frustrated (not that you'd care) because my pic is not copyrighted. It has been uploaded onto my PERSONAL Page, and has not been shown as comic canon. In fact, I made note of that on my PERSONAL page, and as such, I would like to have my picture restored. This seems ludicrous that I would be accused of presenting a counterfeit picture ( or whatever the reason you deleted the picture). Please clarify youir intentions, and help me find out how to get copyright info on a pic with NO COPYRIGHT. btw: did you even read my page, to know how the picture was used? RandyS0725 (talk) 11:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC) How about tagging it properly as instructed? Миша13 21:22, 2 May 2008 (UTC) User:The way, the truth, and the light You blocked editor for pagemove vandalism. It was probably because he moved the page Faggot (slang), and the bot picked it up. I have unblocked, since it wasn't vandalism. Just FYI. seresin ( ¡? ) 07:12, 3 May 2008 (UTC) Oops, thanks. Shit happens, I guess. The threshold is 3 "bad moves" in a short time span - very hard to trigger unintentionally - I think it's the first time it happened. Миша13 10:09, 3 May 2008 (UTC) You're being discussed at AN, see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Rogue_admin_bot. KnightLago (talk) 01:29, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Bot question Your name has come up here and your comments are welcomed. Franamax (talk) 19:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC) Hmm, ok - it came up - not the first time, really - whatever - just please don't insult my bots with suggestions along the lines of 100 tabs in my browser or something. Thanks & Cheers, Миша13 21:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC) No, I'm not trying to insult anyone or anything, and certainly not anyone who has the skill and patience to code up a useful piece of operations. The "100 tabs" was a wry reference to other discussions I've seen where people question high edit-rates (ANI I think, I can dig those up if you wish). I've notified you here because I think this is a serious discussion as to how tools are used, and what exactly constitutes "bot edits". No offence intended, apologies if any perceived, and give your bots an extra 10 volts for me. Bots are extremely useful and need to be here, for sure, I just see a cloud of confusion around the issue. Skoal! Franamax (talk) 21:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC) No offense perceived; in fact, I was referring to the numerous discussions where people (like Pascal.Tesson) repeatedly play "surprised" and "outraged" to have found out operating adminbots. Seriously, it's been said and admitted so many times that the only reason I haven't yet painted a big "THIS USER IS RUNNING ADMINBOTS ZOMG" with blinkenlichten on my userpage is because it would deface it. Some of my sysop bots have been running for as long as over 1.5 years (as that joke userpage reminds me) without issues worth noting and I have yet to see a reasoning that would compel me to change the status quo. Миша13 22:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC) Well, the "surprised and outraged" part might apply to eight-month-old's like me who are still struggling to encompass the full culture of the site. It's somewhat depressing to put all the work in of learning, and still be met with "hah - newbie, that's not how we do things". Unwritten rules are great, but it's also nice to be able to find some place where they're written. It's also somewhat disconcerting to watch a botop/BAGer who throws the f-bomb freely and responds to genuine concerns with "stop lying" and "removed vandalism" come out with a mystifying "shh, hunting wabbits" remark. (Quotes are paraphrased, but guess who?). Perhaps it would well behoove you, to the benefit of the project, to make just such an adminbot statement on your userpage (sans blinking lights) to make all and sundry aware of the status quo. Regards. Franamax (talk) 22:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC) Just what you need: Misza uses ADMINBOTS!!! Dragons flight (talk) 22:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC) haha, srs tho - are you saying I and everyone else who dares to ask questions should just go away and leave the big boys alone? Franamax (talk) 23:18, 2 May 2008 (UTC) No, I have a long history of pushing for more transparency and favor it. Dragons flight (talk) 23:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC) I'm saying that whoever has questions is welcome to ask them here. I openly admit to operate an adminbot and my bots are opensourced - checks out as transparent to me. If I didn't get any "official" approval (with RfA, bells and whistles), it is because the expectations at this moment are that the bot has a 0% error rate which: a) is impossible and b) would seriously compromise the bot's efficiency if I were to go into lenghts of writing such a code that everyone would agree it has said 0% error rate (but then again, it wouldn't, since it's impossible). Instead I settle down for a very low error margin and continue along my merry way. Миша13 10:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks. I like this reasonable-questions / reasonable-answers approach with not a policy TLA or swear-word in sight :) I think I found some of your source at archivebot.py. Can you point me now to what code you run with admin privilege? Python is something I need to learn anyway, I need to get that 19th language under my belt ;) Franamax (talk) 20:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Archivebot is what I keep in the pywikipedia repo. The adminbots are kept in my repo on the toolserver. This specific block bot is under the inconspicuous folder eyebot/. Миша13 22:07, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Thanx and cool stuff, I'll add fisheye to my list of "environments" eventually. Now I just need a hacksaw to figure out your code, but that's my problem, not yours. It actually looks pretty self-documenting, I see you don't use variable names a, aa, aaa1, miszafixbug, and so forth. I'll reiterate here that the maximum possible open-ness you can provide is going to be best, such as a brief statement somewhere outlining what tools you use, why you use them, where they can be inspected, what they do, etc. I'm not asking that for myself, I know how to read code, but there are a lot of less-technical people around here who do have genuine concerns, of the non-Skynet variety. Anything you can do to further the goal of transparency is most appreciated. Thread is resolved as far as I'm concerned, thanks for your help! Franamax (talk) 22:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC) WP:PW newsletter The latest edition is ready for delivery here. Thank you! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 12:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC) NOOOOOO STOP THE BOT! iMatthew 2008 14:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Please try to stop the bot, it wasn't ready when Nici asked you. iMatthew 2008 14:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC) I guess it can't be stopped, but is there any way you can re-run the bot to re-deliver the newsletter from the #'s to User:Cimmo? iMatthew 2008 14:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Rouge Bot Award An Adminbot Award In recognition of the long-term constructive service provided by your adminbots, I have created this Rouge Bot award just for you. Dragons flight (talk) 19:09, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Next page How does Miszabot know when to start a new page? I've just split Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)/Archive 96 in two. I would be good if Miszabot were to start on 98. How do we tell it to do so? JIMp talk·cont 00:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Adjust the counter variable in the configuration template on the discussion page being archived. Миша13 21:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks. JIMp talk·cont 07:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Archiving bot caught in an infinite loop ... with a period alternating between 10 minutes and 30 minutes. The page in question is WT:WPSPAM, see history, but everything else seems fine. MER-C 11:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Pretty odd. The logs show that the bot was struggling against an error which the pywikipedia framework interpreted as technical problems with the site (but that wasn't true as the Wikipedia was otherwise accessible). Can't really do anything about it but also this seems to be a random (and irreproducible) error. Thanks for the info though. Миша13 17:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Bot adding blank lines Hi Misza, when your bot archives my page, it adds blank lines between the header titles and the body of the section. I don't want those lines. Is there a parameter I can set to tell it to leave what it's not archiving alone and not put in the blank lines? Aleta Sing 20:20, 6 May 2008 (UTC) No, not really. They are placed there due to the nature of the algorithm - if decomposes the entire page into threads (as python objects), separating their titles from contents. Then, some threads are moved to the archives while the rest is again composed into a complete page. At this point, they get standarized - and the standard (according to what the "new section" button produces) is that the title is separated by single spaces from the surrounding == header markers == as well as with an empty line from the thread's contents. This also makes the code of the entire page more readable - a title which is glued to the thread's text is easy to miss when scrolling at a fast pace. This is not a specifically by-design-intended behavior but rather a (useful in my opinion) side effect. Миша13 21:30, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Oh, OK, thanks: I'd still rather not have them, but I appreciate the explanation! Maybe I'm just weird, but I like the headers connected to the contents. Oh well... :) Aleta Sing 21:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Hello I had a question. How do you animate pictures? ex. the dog you have on your userpage.    Juthani1   tcs 21:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Actually, I only made the static .png version by scanning an old photo. The animated .gif (as well as some of the Wikipedia banner ads) is provided courtesy of User:Gurch - maybe you could ask him about whatever magic tools he uses. I've never had the patience nor skills to produce animated images. Миша13 22:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Thank You    Juthani1   tcs 03:12, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Bot not working? My talk page hasn't been archived in quite some time... is there a problem? because I haven't changed anything in a while. = ∫tc 5th Eye 13:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC) User:MiszaBot/Archive FAQ#Q1 - see reason 2. Миша13 17:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC) Just a few posts not archiving On Talk:Omega-3 fatty acid, I have it set to archive posts after 30 days. Most of them have been archived successfully, but just a few random ones (from November 2007, January 2008, and March 2008) have been left behind. Any idea what's causing this? —Werson (talk) 19:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC) User:MiszaBot/Archive FAQ#Q1 - see reason 2. Миша13 17:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC) My talk won't archive I just noticed today that the bot has't archived my page for over a month. --Rschen7754 (T C) 08:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC) For some reason, the pywikipedia framework is raising an edit conflict error when trying to save a page that was deleted (in your case, the 9th archive). If you recreate it (even a blank one), it should continue normally. Миша13 17:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 2nd and 9th, 2008. 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 06:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC) Not archiving? I've added the template to Talk:Masturbation but it's not archiving; am I doing something wrong? The Wednesday Island (talk) 23:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC) User:MiszaBot/Archive FAQ#Q1 - see reason 1. Миша13 17:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC) Oops. Thanks. The Wednesday Island (talk) 15:33, 10 May 2008 (UTC) Unblock Thanks for the unblock. I hope it'll be safe for me to include the permanent link in a few more page moves as there a few more to do. (I don't usually include URLs.) What really surprised me was the immediate indefinite nature of the block, i.e. no warnings or build-up to an indefinite block. Perhaps something to factor into future block setups? Also, since this block was accidental, can it be removed from my record? (I lost sight of the page where I can check whether or not it has.) Thanks. Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:02, 10 May 2008 (UTC) The problem with external links is that we have a notorious vandal going around mass-moving pages and using external links to shock sites in the summary. It is so annoying and tedious to clean up after that I have decided to write a bot that detects such moves and blocks automatically after a few "transgressions". Seems that blacklisting URLs globally (as it was proposed a while back) wasn't a good idea. I'll make the patterns address-specific. Regarding removal of the block log entry, it's not generally possible (save bugging the developers about it), but it doesn't really matter either if it was a mistake and immediately reverted (it is not considered a stain or anything). Миша13 13:47, 10 May 2008 (UTC) Understood. It was the first time I'd included an URL rather than a wikilink, as it was a link to a talk page. Should I ever want to do something like that again, it'll be simpler to use a wikilink anyway and later look in an archive if necessary. And, so long as the record shows the block was accidental and/or unintended consequence, I'm happy. Thanks. Sardanaphalus (talk) 14:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC) Barnstar The da Vinci Barnstar I award you this barnstar for the helpful scripts you've created and other technical work around Wiki. Keep up the great work. ~AH1(TCU) 00:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC) A big thankyou The Special Barnstar For the invaluable work which your bot does in archiving talk pages. This a repetitive task which I suspect is fully automated by now, but that doesn't reduce it's importance in keeping talk pages useable while retaining well-organised archives. I didn't fully realise just how important this was until Werdnabot's demise left my talk page to grow into an unuseable monster, and it was rescued by your bot. Thank you for running this very important bot, which plays a huge role in facilitating collaboration between editors. —BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC) My picture Why did you delete my picture? It wasn't being used anywhere and I didn't know how to attach to my user page so I just created it the normal way. TeePee-20.7 (talk) 15:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC) Sorry, but all images on Wikipedia need a proper copyright tag along with source information (your image was missing that and was deleted). Furthermore, any non-free images (yours looks like one, being a logo) can only be used in articles (and not on userpages) and if they're not used, they're deleted. Миша13 15:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC) Egg on their faces That mistaken grawp block from last week, if only we hadn't unblocked User_talk:The_way,_the_truth,_and_the_light#Blocked Congrats on your clairvoyance. MBisanz talk 19:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Indeed it's amazing how things sometimes turn out around here... Миша13 22:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Wikinews importer bot Hi, If you check my contributions you'll find that I've been trying to add Wikinews content to the anouncement template for WP:AIRCRASH. However, I think I've messed it up. Can you see what I've done wrong here? Thanks, Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 21:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC) The page = parameter is the page on Wikinews where the bot should import from. There is no "Wikinews Importer Bot/Aviation accidents and incidents" page there. Миша13 22:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks, I've mended that bit. It needed 'Wikinews:' added to the start. And on the template itself? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC) image Slammiversary 2008 Thanks for deleting that image. I uploaded it and I didn't know how to delete it. It came out wrong. It was suppose to be bigger. Thanks!--WillC (talk) 01:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Please undelete an image Hi, the image Image:Kennelley.jpg was deleted as an unused non-free image not long ago. It turns out it was actually in use, but wasn't linking properly to the related article due to someone playing around with some template parameters and breaking it. Can you please undelete? Nobody of Consequence (talk) 00:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Done. Please provide a fair use rationale for the image. Миша13 17:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC) User_talk:AlasdairGreen27 Hi Misza13, At User_talk:AlasdairGreen27 I have set up the code as per your instructions (as far as I can tell successfully). Thanks for that. The bot has archived successfully. The only thing is that the bot seems to have put old threads into two archives, with some duplication. It's not urgent, but when you've got a few minutes over a cup of coffee could you have a look at what I've done wrong? Something, obviously ;-). I think I need just one archive just now. Many thanks once again, AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 19:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Isn't that obvious? You set up the bot to archive to archive #2, it did, then you reverted it, but only on your talk page - the bot didn't magically revert itself in the archive (why would it?). Then you changed the counter to 1, it archived again - that's why you have the same content in two archives. No mystery. Just blank archive #2, I suppose... Миша13 19:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Well, I'm sorry, but, like many such things around WP, the instructions were not the most user friendly I've ever come across, to say the least. I reverted it because it didn't work - my fault, I'm sure, but what can you do? No archive was created yesterday, so I'd obviously done something wrong, so I reverted and tried again today. I'll blank archive 2. To be frank, I found the instructions so incomprehensible that yesterday I copy-pasted what another user had done on his user talk page. That's why there's an archive 2, I guess. I'd suggest entirely deleting your instructions. They make no sense. I'd (kindly) advise you replace them with colour coded instructions that say 'to start a new archive for your talk page, paste the following into your user talk page, entering your user talk page name over the green text and leaving everything else intact'. Much more user friendly :-) AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 20:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 12th, 2008. 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Ralbot (talk) 09:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Threats I need to complain about the threats and inexplicable arch-hostile behaviour of user LUCPOL towards me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:81.106.128.119 LUCPOL zaczął bezpodstawnym atakiem, cytuję: "że twój chory polski nacjonalizm nie będzie tolerowany nigdzie na Wikipedii." za to iż ośmieliłem się napisać że Ślązaków jest 173, 000. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.128.119 (talk) 14:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC) He wrote it in Polish, but I do not know why I should be bullied without any reason here... How can I officially reprot this??? Użytkownik LUCPOL agresywnie zaatakował mnie bez żadnej podstawy, obraził i zaczął grozić za to iż w temacie Silesian language napisałem, iż liczba osób o narodowości Śląskiej wynosi 173,000 wg polskiego spisu, a nie 0,2 miliony jak chce tego LUCPOL. Osobnik ten zrewertował moją edycję, po czym wystosował pod moim adresem agresywny i obraźliwy tekst 29 kwietnia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.128.119 (talk) 14:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Cześć. Piotrus mi Ciebie polecił bo jesteś neutralnym adminem umiejącym zarówno język angielski i język polski (co w tej sprawie jest bardzo ważne). Chodzi o to, że mam obecnie konflikt z IPkiem. Ten IP zaatakował mnie dotkliwie na pl.Wikipedii oraz wprowadzał polskocentryczny POV, został zrewertowany przez użytkowników i adminów oraz zablokowany przez administratorów. Następnie przyszedł na en.Wikipedię. Ja mu wprost na dyskusji napisałem że jego skrajne polskocentryczne POV będzie rewertowane bo to jest Wikipedia. Nie napisałem mu tego w sposób miły, ale nie można tego ode mnie wymagać po czytaniu takich jego ataków na moją osobę. On zaczął następnie spamować do innych użytkowników oraz pisał prawdziwe ataki osobiste (cytaty oraz linki w jego dyskusji, proponuję dogłębnie przeanalizować jego dyskusję jest tam wszystko napisane), tu podam kilka przykładów: "to znaczy, że jesteś zwyczajnym śmieciem...", "nie ma miejsca dla takich idiotów jak Ty", "Twoje brednie...", "Twoje schizofreniczne..." "Twoje chore majaki", "chore, pomylone neo-nazistwoskie teorie", "A tak na marginesie świrze", Gdzie Ty widzisz "polski nacjonalizm" nazisto", "Wszystko się zgadza nazistowski świrze". Jego nie miłe teksty mogę przełknąć, WikiLove nie jest zasadą i nie upoważnia do blokady, ale takie ataki osobiste już łamią zasadę Wikipedii i to jedną z głównych. Nic sobie z tego nie zrobił i dokonał następnego ataku osobistego. LUCPOL (talk) 14:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC) O, i jeszcze następny atak osobisty. Ile ich jeszcze będzie? LUCPOL (talk) 14:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Odłóżmy może polską wiki i to co tam miało miejsce na bok. Faktem jest, iż Lucpol został słusznie usunięty z polskiej wikipedii przez administratorów z powodu swojej otwartej nienawiści do Polaków oraz wielokrotnych prób zastraszania i ciągle ponawianych ataków na innych użytkowników. (Odylen) Zostałem usunięty z polskiej Wikipedii z powodu otwartej nienawiści do Polaków? Co takiego? Kolejny twój wymysł. LUCPOL (talk) 15:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Na ang wiki, LUCPOL bezpodstawnie zaatakował mnie i zrewertował moją edycję "Silesian language" mimo iż była zgodna z prawdą (oficjalna liczba osób narodowości śląskiej to 173,000 a nie 200 000. LUCPOL postanowił "zemścić" się na mnie za to, iż nie podzielałem jego opinii na polskiej wiki. Zrobił to w sposób bezpodstawny gdyż nieczym nie zasłużyłem sobie na ten atak, a już na pewno nie zasłużyłem sobie moją działalnością na ang wiki. Poza tym wiki to nie miejsce na załatwianie osobostych "porachunków". Faktem jest, iż zostałem 28 bądź 29 kwietnia zaatakowany i obrażony bez żadnej podstawy. Padłem ofiarą osobistej zemsty. Moje edycje również zostały zrewerotwane bez podania oficjalnego powodu. Niezależnie od tego jak później zareagowałem to LUCPOL zaatakował jako pierwszy i ten agresywny i bezpodstawny atak pozostanie nieusprawiedliwiony. (Odylen) Po pierwsze nie rewertuję twoich edycji w artykułach aby się zemścić. To jest tylko twój wymysł. Zrewertowałem twoją edycję bo kolejny raz zapominasz, że Śląsk nie leży tylko w Polsce! A co do ataku osobistego to najpierw musisz poczytać co to jest atak osobisty, nie nazwałem cię w żaden sposób, jedynie zapowiedziałem że będę rewertować polski nacjonalizm i mam do tego prawo gdyż mam za sobą zasady Wikipedii. PS. Zemsta? To kolejny twój wymysł. Gdybyś już nic nie robił to bym o tobie zapomniał. LUCPOL (talk) 14:53, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Powiem jasno: można pisać do kogoś w niemiły sposób, ale jawne przezywanie innych użytkowników takimi wyzwiskami powinno natychmiast skutkować blokadą. Biorąc pod uwagę że tych ataków się już nazbierało to blokada powinna wynosić co najmniej miesiąc. Gdyby IPek 81.106.128.119 / świeżo zalogowany User:Odylen pozostał przy niemiłych tekstach typu "Twoje brednie ..." etc nie bym nic tu nie pisał, jak już wspomniałem wcześniej - nie miłe teksty nie są wystarczającym powodem do blokady. Piszę, bo IP/Odylen używa poważnych ataków osobistych. Nigdy bym nie przypuszczał że będzie można jawnie nazywać kogoś nazistą, świrem czy śmieciem i w ciągu kilku godzin nie doczekać się blokady. Na dodatek niepokoi jeszcze jego wypowiedź "Poczekam sobie spokojnie aż sam ukręcisz sobie bicz na własny zadek... no może czasem troszkę Ci w tym pomogę" - teraz już są jasne jego intencje. LUCPOL (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Piknie. Miałem spokój przez jakiś czas aż tu znowu mi się taki klops zwala. Czy wy ludzie nie potraficie już dyskutować jak przystało na przedstawicieli cywilizacji informacji? Jak się wszędzie wietrzy podstęp, to się powinno w domu zamurować i nosa nie wyściubiać. LUCPOL: zachowałeś się nieprofesjonalnie (jak na doświadczonego Wikipedystę, którym mienisz się być) zaczynając od tekstu w stylu "chory polski nacjonalizm" - tym samym już na wstępie przyjąłeś agresywną postawę i zrobiłeś grunt pod nacjonalistyczny flame war. Poza tym, uważasz, że IP trolluje, to czemu nie stosujesz zasady #1 czyli ignoruj? Wreszcie po ostatnie, powinieneś wiedzieć, że blokady mają charakter prewencyjny, a nie penitencjarny, więc nie wyliczaj mi tu na ile miesięcy mam zakładać blokadę. IP/Odylen: jeszcze gorzej - Ty chyba w ogóle nie czytasz co ludzie piszą. Wiesz od czego są strony dyskusji? Od dyskusji (no kto by pomyślał!) Jak ktoś Ci tam tłumaczy dlaczego zrewertował Twoją edycję, to polemizuj (byle rzeczowo), a nie bezmyślnie klikaj na "undo". I przestań obrażać ludzi, bo napawa mnie to obrzydzeniem. Jak zobaczę, że nie jesteś zdolny do dyskusji i kolaboracji przy tworzeniu encyklopedii, to zostaniesz praw do edycji pozbawiony. Podsumowując, ten komentarz dobrze określa również moje stanowisko. Jak znowu zobaczę, że któraś ze stron zachowuje się wbrew zasadom harmonijnej współpracy, to zacznę zapobiegać rozprzestrzenianiu witriolu przez pozbawianie praw do edycji, bo chamstwa nie zniese. Миша13 21:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC) MiszaBot request: force section archive Is there any chance of a template to mark a section as ready to archive, even if it doesn't have a recognizable timestamp? The first three sections of my talk page (counting the first and third as being the WikiProject Time newsletters seem to have a timestamp which I've added, and the second has an {{unsigned2}} timestamp. Sorry if you've already set up one of these, and I'm looking at the wrong page. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC) No, not without adding a correct timestamp. Note also that none of the first three threads on your talk page have a correct timestamp: the correct order is day-month, not month-day timezone must be specified just see what format ~~~~~ produces when in doubt. Миша13 22:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Targets Misza, come on chat so I can point to something once again open for shots. DS (talk) 23:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Osho archiving Can you explain why you have selectively excised specific threads from the Osho discussion page in the last number of months? Where is the evidence of attempting to arrive at a consensus before the actions were taken? The editing ignores chronology, can you explain this? Semitransgenic (talk) 18:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC) Osho Archiving 2 Again, I ask,: Can you explain why you have selectively excised specific threads from the Osho discussion page in the last number of months? Where is the evidence of attempting to arrive at a consensus before the actions were taken? The editing ignores chronology, can you explain this? Are you aware that you have totally screwed the order of discussion and effectively concealed relevant debate about pressing issues? Unless you respond to this I will be reinstating all the filed discussions in the appropriate order.Semitransgenic (talk) 07:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC) What in the world are you talking about? If someone placed the archiving template on the discussion page without consensus, it's their problem, not mine. I only provide the archiving service that works according to a specific algorithm - the business use of it is outside my interest. I have no clue what you mean by "ignoring chronology" - the bot only archives threads that have reached a certain age - yes, they might get pulled out from between others that didn't qualify (because they were still active - quite logical) - as a result, the threads are stored in the archives in order of ceased activity. I didn't "screw" anything, so take your angry stomping elsewhere. Reinstate whatever you wish, I couldn't care less. If you don't like my bot, don't use it - I don't care either (imagine I'm not being paid per customer served). Миша13 13:07, 17 May 2008 (UTC) The specifics of how this bot works are not my concern, but I have obviously misunderstood it's functionality. Having viewed the manner in which it has excised material for archiving purposes it does appear to defy chronological rationale, therefore I would have to question it's usefulness. The bot is described as semi-automated so I asumed human intervention played some hand how it behaved, forgive me for assuming incorrectly. Semitransgenic (talk) 15:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC) Talk:List of commonly misused English language phrases This bot archived content from Talk:List of commonly misused English language phrases [24], but failed to create links on Talk:List of commonly misused English language phrases pointing to the archives. Is this the expected behavior or a bug? In either case, I think the results are a problem: archivers are responsible for linking to the archives they create. Nohat (talk) 08:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC) "archivers are responsible" - oh are they? Well, this one ain't. In any case, just use the {{archive box}} template with an auto=yes or auto=small parameter and it will be a fire & forget - new links will appear automatically. Миша13 13:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC) It seems to me if you remove content from a page and put it somewhere else there is an obligation to provide a link to the moved content. It's just poor manners to do anything otherwise. How did it come to be that your bot archived the contents of Talk:List of commonly misused English language phrases? I'm not really interested in learning how to use your bot, but I am interested in it not erasing content from pages I work on. What is the value of offering an option to archive content but not provide a link to the archives, other than to disappear discussions into the ether, never to be seen again? Seems somehow sinister, almost. Thanks for your assistance. Nohat (talk) 05:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC) In that case, it fulfilled your expectations. Please examine the edit more closely - all archives where the content went to are named in the edit summary. The bot doesn't pick pages on its own - someone put the User:MiszaBot/config template on the page. Finally, the configuration has been set to archive threads that are older (as in, not commented upon) than 30 days - hardly ones that are "worked on". Nothing sinister, just read more carefully. Миша13 15:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC) There does not seem to ever have been any attempt to get consensus for the use of your archiving bot. I do not think that "archiving" content without creating links to that content should be a valid type of editing activity for anyone, including bots, and this mode of your bot's software should be removed, or at least only be available by special request and after a consensus agreement that it is necessary. Including the names of archive pages in edit summaries is not sufficient: no one is going to think to look in the edit summaries in the edit history for content that might have been deleted if there is no evidence on the page that the content existed in the first place. I removed the MiszaBot config template from the page. Can you please restore all the deleted content, or at least create a list of links to where the content was removed to? Thanks for your assistance. Nohat (talk) 17:58, 18 May 2008 (UTC) The links are available in page history (in fact, all the bot's edits are on the first page of it). If the archive naming was standard (".../Archive N"), {{archive box}} would've taken care of everything. Contrary to what you suggest, no content is deleted either; it's just moved. If I removed the functionality you speak of, there wouldn't be anything left as it's exclusively an archiving bot (it's its only "mode of [...] software"). If someone uses it conversely to your liking, take that to that person, not me. I have placed a warning enough that consensus should be sought before setting up archiving on a public page. I'm afraid "Don't like it? Don't use it." is all I have to say here (having no time to develop the bot further at the moment). I'm not getting paid per customer served, either. Миша13 18:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Links in the page history are not sufficient. There are mixed in with all the other edits and, besides, who is going to look in the page history to find archive pages? I'm not suggesting your bot's functionality should be removed—archiving bots are useful—all I'm suggesting is your archiving bot should not archive content without also creating links to the archives. If you are unwilling or unable to make your bot do that, then I request that you turn it off. The act of removing content from a talk page without creating a link on that page to where the content was moved to is, if not vandalism, then at the very least mangling, and should not be allowed. I am concerned that there are pages all over Wikipedia that your bot has mangled in this way. Your bot has mangled Talk:List of commonly misused English language phrases, and, frankly, you have a responsibility to fix it. Nohat (talk) 18:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Again, if you used a standard naming for the archives (in fact, you still can, just move the archives around) then combined with {{archive box|auto=yes}} it's a "fire & forget" system that definitely most pages around use. Whoever decides on a non-standard system (like I did on my talk page and like Rm w a vu did on the talk page in question) must maintain an index on his own - that comes bundled with the box and I'm not able to change that anytime soon (even though it's been on a TODO list for a while now). Requesting the bot to be shut down because of this is, frankly, ridiculous and calling it vandalism is way over the top. Миша13 18:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Well, the problem is that the page was not very high-traffic, and did not need monthly archives, and the use of your bot was added unilaterally. Now there are 19 tiny archive pages, and it's going to be a hassle to merge them into larger archive pages, delete the monthly archive pages, and then create links to the new archive pages. Furthermore, I now realize that there are probably talk pages all over Wikipedia which have not been responsibly archived, and someone, probably me, now has to go through your bots' edit histories to find those pages and come up with a way to fix the problem. It seems that it is very easy, indeed too easy to add archiving to low-traffic talk pages, and then when a problem is discovered months later, like no links to archive pages, or too much granularity in the archives, it's a big burden to be placed at the feet of the person who discovers the problem when the bot owner refuses to accept any responsibility for the problem, especially if the person who requested the archiving did it maliciously or incompetently, and is unwilling or unable to fix the problem.. Nohat (talk) 19:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Thank you for taking care of the problem. I appreciate it. Nohat (talk) 19:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Image:Nfk.png Hello. I was wondering why the image was deleted. The deletion log indicates that it was unused and tagged improperly. I believe after I uploaded a higher resolution image of the CD cover, I also added a fair use rationale. Maybe somebody removed it? Article Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan was linking to it. Thanks --Kimse (talk) 21:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC) Well, if it was not used, then whatever rationale there was doesn't matter. If you wish to reinstate it in the article, let me know and I'll restore it. Миша13 13:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC) Yes, please restore it, so I could put it back in the article. By the way, while I'm on this topic, is it okay according to Wikipedia's policy to include a non-free image to an article's infobox about a person? In this particular case, it is a CD cover that has a photographic image of the deceased singer, so I used it in {{Infobox Musical artist}}. Thanks Миша. --Kimse (talk) 21:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC) Restored. I don't see any reasons why it couldn't be used in an infobox, so go ahead. Миша13 15:30, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks a lot. I put it back in the infobox. --Kimse (talk) 03:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC) How could I do this... Hi, I want to archive my talk page. I currently manually do it every 10d, to the last time stamp date. So, a post on 8th May would be archived to my May 08 archive, User talk:Bluegoblin7/Archive 11. Does that make sense? I don't know! I would like the archive to automatically change and be created in the archive box every month. Thanks, BG7 17:13, 17 May 2008 (UTC) There is currently no way to use a counter that increments every month, but you can use archives named after months (like "/Archives/2008/05" or similar). Миша13 15:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Image:Rehevkor.JPG Hey there! I noticed you CSD'd the file Image:Rehevkor.JPG. This file is currently referenced by D'ni language. I believe that this image may be covered under a permissive license by Ubisoft. Would you be able to undelete this file, if it is still able to be recovered? Thanks! — OranL (talk) 21:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC) Restored. You can fix the licensing information accordingly. Миша13 15:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Is MiszaBot archiving user talk pages? I checked its contributions and it doesn't seem to be. If it is, can you check my configuration to see eif I've done it correctly? Thanks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC) The case might've cause problems. Apart from that, it's the third bot that works on User talk: pages. Миша13 15:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks, it seems to be working now. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC) WP:PW Newsletter Is ready for delivery here. Thanks! King iMatthew 2008 10:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC) {{MonthlyArchive}} Archives 2005 2006 January 2006 February 2006 March 2006 April 2006 May 2006 June 2006 July 2006 August 2006 September 2006 October 2006 November 2006 December 2006 2007 January 2007 February 2007 March 2007 April 2007 May 2007 June 2007 July 2007 August 2007 September 2007 October 2007 November 2007 December 2007 2008 January 2008 February 2008 March 2008 April 2008 May 2008 June 2008 I've built this new template based on a complaint at the bot owners noticeboard. It creates automatic archive links to archives stored as some root location using the schema "YYYY/month" as the archive name. For example it would document any page using one of the folowing (in your bot format syntax):  %(year)d/%(monthname)s  %(year)d/%(monthnameshort)s  %(year)d/%(month)d  %(year)d Maybe this could alleviate some of the hassle from chronological archiving? If you think it might be helpful I would be happy to add a link to it and explanation to your HowTo. Adam McCormick (talk) 21:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC) No objections, but first please make it work correctly. (see to the right) Миша13 22:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC) What about that is not working correctly? It just links the pages if they are there, no more and no less. Adam McCormick (talk) 22:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Less, actually. If you see my real archive map near the top of my talk page, you'll see that I have many more pages than that. Миша13 23:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Ah I see what your getting at, I thought it was an objection to the year pages, I've accounted for the leading zero. Is that better? Adam McCormick (talk) 01:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Much. :) I'll start recommending that to people. In your free time you could also design a version that groups them into quarters (much like my own archive map, which is however maintained mostly manually); three months in a row. Миша13 17:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Deletion review for Image:The-Incredible-Hulk--1-.jpg An editor has asked for a deletion review of Image:The-Incredible-Hulk--1-.jpg. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. The Evil Spartan (talk) 00:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC) Hmm, you could've just asked me to restore it... Why, oh, why is the art of conversation lost in the tubes of teh internets... Миша13 19:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC) HELP ME PLEASE I NEED HELP!!! I need my page revived!!!! I will do anything!!!!!! User:east718 deleted it! I need help!Altenhofen (talk) 01:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Before you consider this, Misza, read East's talk page. Apparently Altenhofen's been using Wikipedia as a web host. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 05:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC) I ask you to ignore the situation. I'm trying to get the user to take my help. He should have at least a day to reach out and take my hand before the consequences of his actions are carried out. Cheers, -The Hybrid- 05:15, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Are you referring to me or Misza? -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 05:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Well, I guess both, but then again who am I to ask anyone to ignore anything, now that I think about it? And in response to the below statement, yes the user is canvassing everyone he can find a link to, as well as acting very immature all around. Like I said, I'm making one last ditch effort to help the user. If he doesn't take my help, I would recommend a block of some extended length. Peace, -The Hybrid- 05:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Please note that User:Altenhofen is asking all the admin he/she can find to restore his or her user page. He has personally attacked User:East718 as well. This user is constatly begging for admins (you call also call that "admin shopping") to restore his user page. Regards, RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 05:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC) He asks me, he's not even going to get the current hour. I've redacted the obvious personal attacks from east's page. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 05:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC) I have read east's talk page and I'm pretty surprised you're not indef blocked yet. It certainly itched my trigger finger when I read your rude (hmm, this word is an understatement) comments there. I do no wish to get myself involved in this, however, so per Hybrid's suggestion I shall ignore this request. Миша13 17:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC) MiszaBot II key Could I have a key for telling MiszaBot II to archive Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Fulfilled requests to subpages of Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Requests/Fulfilled/ (Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Requests/Fulfilled/Archive %(counter)d to be precise)? That page hasn't been archived in ages due to Werdnabot going down, and I don't think anyone's looked at it for a while; I tried to change it over to MiszaBot II, but due to the archiving setup there (archiving to a slightly different subpage) it won't archive without a key. --ais523 10:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Done. Cheers, Миша13 17:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Talk pages were archived, but archive box did not update Hello! Thank you for this great archiving tool. Unfortunately I have not implemented it correctly on my own page. The archiver ran and in the History I can see that it made a nice set of archives. The archive box on my Talk page did not update though. If possible can you take a look and point out where I screwed that part up? I understand if you are too busy. Rob Banzai (talk) 15:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Awesome! Thank you for your help!Rob Banzai (talk) 17:11, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz Cześć. Ja znowu w niezbyt przyjemnej sprawie - prosiłbym o zabezpieczenie tego artykułu. Powód: Editwar. Alden or talk with Alden 20:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC) question Do you really have nothing better to do than to sit around all day watching for page-move vandalism so you can block the user within a couple of seconds of the page-move? E. Morland III (talk) 19:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC) Actually I don't "sit around all day" at all (have bots for that), but thanks for your concern about my mental health. Миша13 20:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC) From Oblivion Lover Oblivion Lover (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. You do a great job Oblivion Lover (talk) 06:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC) For an awesome job in all the things you do! Oblivion Lover (talk) 06:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC) Secret page stuff Regarding your post here: yes, you may. I don't maintain it, and when it appears in my watchlist, I don't take much action. Thanks in advance! Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 22:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks for deleting I made the secret page and never got around to making it. I made an extra account because a few users would try to find me by refering to me as "Juthani" rather than "Juthani1". I thought making the account and redirecting the userpage of the account to my actual account would be helpful for a few users. Can I do this or is it against Wikipedia user account rules? I put the secret page there or will so that users will have trouble finding it. Is it ok to have an account like this or have I done something wrong?    Juthani1   tcs 00:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC) It's perfectly fine to have such an account per WP:SOCK#Doppelganger accounts. However, before you decide on creating another "secret" page and use Foundation resources for fun please take a look at WP:NOTMYSPACE. Thanks, Миша13 14:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Is Miszabot I offline on purpose? Hi I've noticed that the last run date for User:MiszaBot I was on May 23 (see contribs). Was this outage known? Thanks -- KelleyCook (talk) 14:26, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks for pointing that out. An extremely rare bug on one of the pages actually caused the entire batch to fail. Миша13 17:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Heh It seems that it's been found out that we're the same person. :) Acalamari 16:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Archive bot timing I'm a bit of a night owl and I'm used to seeing your archive bot come through in the very early morning doing various pages. Now I see it's working in mid-afternoon (my time). No big problem, just wondering if you know that the timing seems to have changed? Franamax (talk) 21:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC) No, it hasn't - it was a manual run to catch up (it wasn't running for the past few days). Миша13 22:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Ahh that explains it. I said to Keeper that I thought we'd worn it out. Glad all is well in bot world and thanks for the service it/you provide TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 23:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Test wiki Hey Misza13, whenever you're over at the test wiki next, could you help with an issue? I registered there with both Metros and Metros232 to prevent impersonation today. However, it appears that User:Xp54321 has decided to be overzealous or whatever it is you'd call it and protected the user pages against creation. Would you please unprotect it so I can leave a note of the account's purpose and WP:TROUT Xp54321? Thanks, Metros (talk) 22:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Hello, Misza13. I have already fulfilled User:Metros's request here. Regards, RyRy5 (talk) 02:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC) Actually, Misza13, could you follow up on this? I think Xp54321 needs to be dealt with by soneone with authority, plus half the request wasn't fulfilled. Thanks, Metros (talk) 02:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC) RyRy5 seems to be "coaching" Xp54321, whatever that encompasses... And there's plenty of sheriffs (with desysop capabilities) in case he misbehaves. As to the other half of your request, what else needs to be done? Both user and talk pages seem unprotected. Миша13 17:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC) Ah, I misread the protection log. For whatever reason, Xp54321 protected Metros & Metros232 as articles and only User:Metros as a user page. After he was told by RyRy5 that protecting User:Metros would have no effect, he decided to protect the articles... He also protected Iridescent as an article (not as a user). So, I guess there's nothing left to do if you think that the sheriffs or others over there can handle things, if needed. Thanks, Metros (talk) 23:15, 28 May 2008 (UTC) Default change Hiya, I was wondering if the archiveheader default, instead of being {{talkarchive}}, could be {{talkarchivenav}}? Would that make sense? Or would it break something that I am unaware of? Thanks, --Elonka 03:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC) One possible problem might be that "This template will only work for archive pages up to 50." I surely know some pages that are now past that mark or quickly closing on it. In those cases, {{archive-nav}} would probably a better idea (the archiveheader accepts and substitutes variables such as %(counter)d). However, one thing to keep in mind is that the bot is used on many wikis and {{talkarchive}} is much more common world-wide (and there is currently no way to specify per-wiki defaults). 17:22, 28 May 2008 (UTC) Your archiving bot Is there a way to make it create a page at User:username/Archive # instead of User:username/Archive/# ? — DædαlusT@lk / Improve\ Contribs 19:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC) You control it using the archive = User talk:Daedalus969/Archives/%(counter)d parameter. Миша13 22:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC) I know, but I don't know if what I suggest is possible, as in if it is possible with the given parameters; in short, I don't know how to change it so that what I ask will work.— DædαlusT@lk / Improve\ Contribs 23:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC) Seriously, replace slash with space? archive = User talk:Daedalus969/Archive %(counter)d Миша13 07:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks, I didn't know if it would mess up the coding or not.— DædαlusT@lk / Improve\ Contribs 10:01, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 19th and 26th, 2008. 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 07:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC) This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. Archive Map Special RfA-thanks Year 2005 Year 2006 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2007 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2008 I II III IV V VI Archive for June 2008 WP:PW newsletter The next issue is ready to be delivered here. Thanks! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 20:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC) WP:Pro Wrestling Newsletter Hey there. I am having a problem with your bot that delivers the WP:PW Newsletter. My name is on the No Spam list, but I'm still getting the newsletter. Can you help? Thanks! -- MeHolla! 23:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC) Hmm. A subtle bug in the delivery algorithm. You are listed in the memberlist as "Jasont82" but on the spam opt-out as "Me". As the bot first creates a complete delivery list (by subtracting one list from the other) and only follows redirects when actually delivering (without checking the opt-out again) it explains why you received the post. Now we have two options. I can either try to accommodate for this situation (i.e. check for nospam on delivery instead of on preparation), which might not be as easy as it sounds (due to the nature of the bot's code). Or (the lazy approach, perferable for me :P) you can just update your username on the memberlist. Which will it be, then? ;-) Cheers, Миша13 19:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC) HA! I thought that had something to do with it, but when I looked at the list, it was listed as User:Me I'll delete and readd and see if that helps! -- MeHolla! 23:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Grawp-bot Does your block-bot (kudos for having the skill to write it, and the balls to run it, btw!) also handle clearing up the pagemove mess afterwards? Because having edits like these in a user's page history honestly makes me sick. Since you're running an adminbot already, would it be reasonable to do poor-man's-oversight on each page replaced; deleting the page and then restoring everything but the revisions with the ugly page title? Being able to make such horrible vandalism disappear would go a long way towards fulfilling the I in WP:RBI. Just a thought - and if your bot doesn't do the cleanup, ignore the above (although perhaps it would be a sensible addition... you use pywiki, right?). Happy‑melon 21:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC) What's interesting to know is that the bot's been running (quite silently) since around Oct '06 (times where WoW was still around). It used to be pywiki, but that's been thrown out of the window during the recent rewrite, due to speed issues (the framework is too slow with getting the edit token and posting the form - now it's being periodically fetched on a separate thread every few minutes) - now it's mostly just the brilliant Twisted framework. Regarding cleanup, I never got round to write it, mostly because my long-time experience taught me that it's easy to botch it even when reverting manually (I once or twice deleted the actual page by overwriting it with a redirect, having a wrong checkbox ticked :P), much less with a bot. Finally, there was at some point an idea that admins could delete individual revisions (pretty much like Oversight, only it would remain visible to other admins and in the logs) but it didn't seem to stick for some reason. Too bad, since for big pages deleting entire histories is stressful for the servers (a limit of 5000 revisions was introduced, which might make manual revision deletion impossible in many cases). Миша13 22:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Odd image deletion Hi, Misza13. I notice you deleted Image:Terror of MechaGodzilla 1975.jpg because it was not used. And, indeed, the deleted image shows no article-links. However the image actually was in used at the article on the film Terror of Mechagodzilla. Perhaps the image description was not done correctly? If you could restore the image, I will provide a description/justification for it. Thanks. Dekkappai (talk) 22:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Done. Description aside, you should first and foremost include the image back in the article. ;-) Миша13 22:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Thanks, will do! Dekkappai (talk) 22:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Hey, man. Could you please whitelist my alt. account or something? See [25]. I'm trying to help train an AV bot, and, getting blocked for it every couple mins is starting to get annoying :) (tho, at least I do get to do the rogue unblocks!) SQLQuery me! 05:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC) The current version of the bot doesn't have a whitelist infrastructure, so I'm afraid you'll have to bear with it for a while until I write one (this weekend at earliest). Миша13 19:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC) No problem, I got all the testing done, don't worry :) SQLQuery me! 02:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC) Deleted image Hi, is their anyway I can view this image: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Dirtykuffar2.JPG&action=edit&redlink=1 thanks User:Arthur Warrington Thomas (talk) 15:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC) No, not really. Although I could probably email it if you wanted. Do you want to see the image or the image description page? Миша13 19:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC) Page moves Misza, the reason why Grawp is able to move so many pages so quickly - and tends to go for archives these days - is that there's now a "Move all subpages, if applicable" tickbox for moving pages. So it's one click to get a page (and all its subpages) moved at the same time. WjBscribe 13:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC) Yeah, I figured that (as commented on the AN/I thread) - I also recommended an idea of giving admins a "delete resulting redirects" box as well (provided that the "move subpages" remains). I'm afraid Grawp was the first one to notice and exploit this new feature... Миша13 15:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for June 2, 2008. 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