User talk:Misza13/Archives/2007

Please Use Edit Summaries

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thanks, and happy editing.

Hrmpf. I was lazy just once and get a notice? Damn. And you, sir, please revise your knowledge of posting new messages - the <div> you used was placed in the same line as the == ... == header and was not rendered/recognized properly. Happy editing, Миша13 00:45, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Is the source code for User:EssjayBot II/III available?

Hello. I'm interested in running a script similar to User:Werdnabot's archiver and that of User:EssjayBot II/III; I've been told by User:Essjay that you wrote the archival code for his bots. While I'm currently planning on writing my own code to do the job, I was wondering if the code for Essjay's bots was available, and if so, whether I could use that as a starting place for my own bot script? Thanks. Mike Peel 10:42, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I have placed the source code in User:MiszaBot/Source. It runs on the pywikipedia framework. Good luck and don't hesitate to ask questions - I wrote it while still in the stage of learning Python, so the code might be a bit obfuscated. :-) Миша13 11:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Mike Peel 12:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the rollback

We're all catching this guy on patrol this afternoon! (aeropagitica) 15:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Parser function

Hi Misza, I've started to update {{Templatesnotice}} and wanted to include the syntax for your Sig add on, but cannot get it to work. I thought it was {{subst:PAGENAME|Article|And this is some extra text.|n}}

Could you set me right please, oh and happy new year and all that.

Cheers Khukri ^{(talk . contribs)} 09:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Very cool userpage!

Do you mind if I borrow/steal some of the code for my userpage? I'll make enough changes that it won't be exactly like yours; I just like the collapsible box design. Let me know here, I'll watch the page. Thanks! -- weirdoactor ^t|c 20:32, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Feel free. It's a free wiki after all. :-) Most code is transcluded on various subpages and I also made the code of the main page barely readable (see why!). :-P But feel free to ask where are the specific elements located. Миша13 20:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Esperanza

Would you like to see Esperanza return. Geo. 01:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Huh? It has been shut down only recently and you want a return already? Give it some time to see who really cares. Out of 700+ members, I've seen no more that, say 20-30 participating in the Overhaul (see also uncyclopedia:Nobody cares); no more than 50 in the MfD. Some seem to have noticed post factum (probably because userboxes & banners started to disappear from their pages) - this proves that the Esperanza membership has completely devaluated itself (i.e. means nearly nothing). Also, to the recent over-bloated-bureaucratic shape it has taken, I say a decisive no. Let's have some time to think things over. Wikipedia can live without Esperanza. Миша13 18:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

My defcon template

I made it so a parameter could be low instead of 5 :) _→AzaToth 14:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. :) Unforunately, the general scheme we adopted was to use digits 0-5 instead of words (since the scale was re-done recently and levels changed their meanings). Миша13 14:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

True, but it's backward compatible. :) _→AzaToth 14:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

problem vandal

This vandal needs some attention, and since you were the one who last blocked him... .--JWJW Have a nice day :) 14:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

no matter i belive that the problem has been seen to.--JWJW Have a nice day :) 14:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Do not deleted sockpuppet-tagged userpages

I have just restored user:GoOdCoNtEnT, User:Anecdotesarecool, user:Johnnyp2000, user:Michael Woods, and user:Ffffffffffffffff333333 - all of which had been tagged and sockpuppets and all of which you had deleted. Do not delete these, or any other sockpuppet tagged userpages, again. Raul654 22:25, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I am not touching sockpuppet-tagged userpages. And now, none of the pages you mentioned are tagged as such and are therefore candidates for deletion on my next run. While at it, what's the point in tagging blatant WP:U violations such as Ffffffffffffffff333333 anyway? Миша13 23:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Here is the incident report - they're all sockpuppets of Goodcontent. Raul654 19:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

You can't possibly expect me to read all of AN/I. Just remember to tag them with proper templates (these were lying around untouched for a month) - I don't touch pages with the word "sock" on them (among a few others). Cheers, :) Миша13 19:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit conflict

➨ ЯEDVERS awards this Barnstar to Misza13 for beating me by milliseconds to blocking an idiot. On fire again... as usual! You're very good and much appreciated (as you would have seen if I'd blocked the nutter a millisecond earlier)

Well, why thank you, sir! :D Always ready to serve the collective. Миша13 21:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorter

Do you still keep User:Misza13/Scripts/Watchlist sorter working? It seems like a really good idea to me, but it doesn't seem to work. I see you haven't updated it in a while though, so maybe that's the problem. Just wondering. :) - cohesion 22:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it should work fine. It's not updated, because it's been working fine for me for all those months, never failing. What browser/OS configuration are you on? - this might help me track down the problem. Миша13 22:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, maybe I screwed something up :) I'm on current mac os and current firefox. I put it here User:Cohesion/monobook.js. It doesn't seem to break anything, my watchlist just looks like it always has, maybe something important is commented out? - cohesion 00:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, the script is self-contained and shouldn't require any external functions. It also doesn't seem to be commented out. Furthermore, I have copied your entire monobook into mine and it works. :/ Only thing that comes to my mind is some caching problems (did you do a hard refresh?) or OS-specific ones. In the latter case, I won't be able to help much. Миша13 10:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Hm, I'll try it on some other platforms and let you know. Thanks for trying mine out on yours. :D - cohesion 15:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I can't get it to work on windows under firefox 2.0.0.1 or internet explorer 7. Also doesn't work on Mac with safari. I removed al the other scripts I have also just to test. Maybe I'm thinking it does something other than what it is supposed to do? I was under the impression that it would seperate out the name spaces and display them all rather than have the dropdown. At this point it seems more likely that I am completely misunderstanding the goal rather than it not working. - cohesion 16:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Normally, when you visit your watchlist, edits are grouped by days, ordered by time of edit. With the sorter installed, edits within each day are supposed to be additionally grouped by namespaces (while retaining the timely order within a namespace). How many pages do you have on your watchlist? Maybe there's not enough of them for the effect to manifest itself? Миша13 16:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, that's how I thought it should work. I have 200 something, across all namespaces. Who knows. - cohesion 17:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, here's how it should look like: [1] Миша13 17:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Praise jeebus, it's not compatible with the enhanced recent changes in preferences. Turned that off and it works great :D Yipee! hehe - cohesion 18:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar from WP:UW

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I award this barnstar to Misza13 for your help and assistance in getting the WikiProject user warnings to the review phase, and to let you know your work has been appreciated. Khukri (talk . contribs) 22:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you much! Though I haven't been very active recently. I promise to pick it up again soonish. :D Миша13 22:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Some stuff about my user page.

Can you give me some pointers on it? For one thing, can you help me install a proper status switcher? I made a userbox and it's pretty convenient, but when I heard about yours I checked out the page for it, and it seems kind of complicated from my perspective. Anyway please help me in that area! --SuperLuigi31 01:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, as instructed on User:Misza13/Scripts/Status switcher, do the following:

• Create a page User:SuperLuigi31/StatusTemplate and put the following code there (for a good start):

'''<div style="border: 1px solid black; background: white; float: right; position: relative; top: -30px; padding: 5px">SuperLuigi31's status: {{ #switch: {{{1}}}
 | in=<span style="color: green;">IN</span>
 | busy=<span style="color: #FFAA00;">BUSY</span>
 | out=<span style="color: red;">OUT</span>
}}
</div>'''

• Create a page User:SuperLuigi31/Status and put the code {{User:SuperLuigi31/StatusTemplate|in}} there. Now you should have a fully functional switcher - just put {{User:SuperLuigi31/Status}} on your main userpage (or wherever you want it) and it will display your status. To change it, just visit User:SuperLuigi31/Status and change "in" to "busy" or "out". This can be do by hand or...
• ...visit User:SuperLuigi31/monobook.js, put {{subst:User:Misza13/Scripts/Status switcher}} there and save. Then purge you browser's cache. Three links (named "in", "busy" and "out") should appear in the upper right corner of every page (besides the "logout" button) - click them to see what they do.

Once done, you can go back to User:SuperLuigi31/StatusTemplate and edit it to adjust how the status display should look like (by default it's just an ugly white box with the text "SuperLuigi31's status: IN/BUSY/OUT" in different colors).

Good luck & tell me if you have any problems. Миша13 10:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Well... I have purged my cache a few times using the instructons at WP:PURGE, however I can't find the IN/BUSY/OUT links up there... --SuperLuigi31 14:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot about one more function, the addlilink(). I hope you don't mind that I have added it to you monobook to speed things up. If it doesn't show up immediately now, do one more purge and the links should show up. Миша13 16:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!!--SuperLuigi31 19:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Status switcher script

Someone just stole your idea and posted it to the Community Portal :D – Gurch 12:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Not really. That one was developed (albeit at some beta stage) even before mine. However, I find it overly complicated (with xmlhttprequests etc) and un elegant. Mine is simple and it's only one short function. :) Миша13 12:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

"High risk" templates

Hi Misza13. Has there been any consensus on all of the protections you've been making lately? Could you please point me to the discussion. In particular, I don't see why WikiProject templates like {{WikiProject California}} need to be protected and I think it will discourage WikiProject participation if these sort of things are done needlessly. Thanks. Mike Dillon 18:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello.

1. Your template is transcluded on over 10'000 pages. Highly transcluded templates are both a tasty target for vandals and a risk to Wikipedia's stability (as proven by yesterday's outage caused mainly by some template experiments on eswiki) - please see WP:HRT.
2. Can you provide any reason why that paricular template should be edited? It's in a stable version and should be put on talk pages of articles, not extensively edited. Non-admins may request edits to protected pages by using the {{editprotected}} tag on the talk page.

I hope you understand. Regards, Миша13 19:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I understand, I just think it's unfortunate. I don't think the vandal target argument makes sense for most talk page templates, especially WikiProject templates. However, the job queue argument stands. I've looked into restructuring the way the job queue works to not reprocess duplicate entries for the same article, but I never went anywhere with the code. As for necessary changes, User:BlankVerse tweaks the template fairly regularly, but it is nothing high priority. I'm more worried about the lag time on protected template requests with the hugely increased number of protected templates. Mike Dillon 20:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

We haven't actually increased the number by that much. About 60 more templates have been fully protected, there were many more than that protected already. Also, a lot of these should hardly need to be edited at all; many of them haven't been edited in months. Others are formatting templates or messages for "tagging" things; these really need consensus before a change is made, so as changes should be proposed on the talk page anyway, adding {{editprotected}} shouldn't be too much of a burden. Most protected edit requests at the moment are to articles that have been protected, usually due to edit warring, so even a big increase in the number of edit requests for templates shouldn't make too much difference – Gurch 21:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Iff you are going to protect {{WikiProject California}}, then add {{protected template}} to it so that it shows up in Category:Protected templates. If protected templates are not being tagged, then that category probably greatly underrepresents the number of templates that are protected. For example, it looks like at least 1/3rd of the templates listed at Wikipedia:List of indefinitely protected pages# High use templates haven't been tagged. As far as I can tell, NONE of the templates listed at Wikipedia:List of protected pages#Other pages has been tagged (roughly 150 templates). ^BlankVerse 00:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Also look at the pages that have their talk pages tagged with {{Permprot}} a or {{Temprot}} b. My guess is that still doesn't catch quite a few of the templates that have been protected. ^BlankVerse 01:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

It is the whole point in protecting them - so that they are not edited (see the job queue argument above). I may eventually tag all of them, but gradually, one at a time and during hours of low activity. Миша13 08:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes. There is one template in particular that I protected which doesn't have {{protected template}}, but is used on so many pages I'm afraid to modify it for fear of what will happen – Gurch 13:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:TrainsWikiProject

Can you please unprotect this? I would like to remove a redundant category. --NE2 05:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Please put {{editprotected}} on the template's talk page, explaining the desired change. An administrator will eventually come and do it. (Or you can explain it here and I'll do it.) Миша13 07:59, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Essjaybot III

Hi. Essjay told me that you wrote this bot so I figured I would forward you my suggestions - 1 (easy) - if creating a new archive page (like it did for me) can it put {{talkarchive}} at the top of the page? - 2 (harder) - autoupdate {{archive box}} if it exists (just the archive name is more than enough). Thanks for the great tool! If it is Perl I can help. — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 14:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

The bot is written in Python. Unfortunately, even (1) isn't a trivial feature to add, because the code is right now a big pile of spaghetti, not easily extensible. The bot will need a major rewrite, for which I have little time these weeks (in February, maybe...). Cheers, Миша13 14:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Not a fan of python, I've had to use it a little with some Trac code I've done. Oh well, if looking to re-write please jot that down in your todo list and thanx tons for the tool! — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 22:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Inappropriate humor tags

Hi, I noticed you're listed as in charge of the Inappropriate Humor tags on the current, um, warning... unification... project. I've noticed that, at times, there are overlap issues with the first two tags, where you have smiley faces rather than the usual icon. I didn't want to change your tags myself, but I experimented with Preview and I think that if you delete the |left switch from the end of the relevant image tags, the problem is fixed. I'm not certain, but I think that works. Hopefully you'll find this handy - the project looks amazing. Rawling 23:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

DXRAW Sockpuppet

Damm your quick, In light of me being accused of being a sockpuppet for the third time. I was creating the "Official" DXRAW sockpuppet but before i even had a chance to tag it with a Alternate accounts it got blocked. Could i please get it unblocked. Thanks DXRAW 13:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

User Talk page deletions

Hi Misza13,

Back in November you deleted these pages: User_talk:71.204.14.32 and User talk:216.91.92.18, both with the edit summary Temporary Wikipedian userpage not edited for a month. Both the IP addresses have been indef blocked because of spamming for Kellen company (see the WikProject Spam archive for more details). I believe the talk page content would provide context should the blocks need to be reconsidered, or if Kellen attempts to start editing again. Would you consider restoring the pages? Thanks -- Siobhan Hansa 17:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Images

I didn't just slap a tag on it I made it... And how far off does it have to be, so that there isn't any copyright infringement? Ard0 ^{(Talk - Contribs)} 08:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

You blocked Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (talk • contribs) with an expiry time of idefinite and he/she didn't make any contributions. Why did you block him/her? Kamope · talk · contributions 22:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

If you check the block again, you'll see that I have provided a very clear reason - a username block. Please see Wikipedia:Username#Inappropriate usernames:

• Names that consist of random or apparently random sequences of letters and/or numbers or of extended repetition of a particular character.
• Extremely lengthy names.

Waaaaaaaaaaa (now tell me - how many a's are there?) violates both of these points. Cheers, Миша13 09:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Michaelgaughan cleanup

Thanks for fixing that mess. One overkill though...User talk:Michaelgaughan had a viable warning from me in addition to the VP nonsense. Could you revive that page? DMacks 20:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Sure. We're fighting a quickly-spreading disease here and are forced to delete pages that caught the "virus" en masse before the users actually read it. Cheers, Миша13 20:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

No worries. DMacks 20:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Just a quick note to thank you for blocking Fatmoogle and cleaning up his mess. As I noted on his talkpage, I noticed what he was doing but didn't know what else to do than warn him. --Mark ^{(Talk | Contribs | Email)} 21:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Actually, in cases like this (spreading a monobook "virus"), the best that can be done is: 1. delete the user's monobook.js and 2. block him (best if done in that order) and 3. delete the pages he created. All that requires a quick admin intervention, so WP:AIV might be the best shot, or IRC, if you use it. Миша13 22:19, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Request talk page restoration

Misza13, is it possible to get User talk:Rememberkigali restored?[2] That particular user was one appearance of a formerly anonymous editor who pops up from time to time to harass me, (see his contribution list) and I would like to have the talk page history available if necessary to show previous warnings and dispute resolution.

This had previously come up on the Administrator's noticeboard - my understanding from that discussion was that we agreed to blank the talk page but leave it so that the history was still available. Should I have tagged the page as something to keep it live?

Thanks! TheronJ 22:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

The main reason why the page was deleted is that it lingered in the CAT:TEMP category for too long. Every now and then, some admins may delete pages fro mthat category, unless they are tagged with some other specific tags, like sockpuppets. If it is an incarnation of another user, you may use one of the Sockpuppet templates. Alternatively, substitute the indef template and remove the category by hand (although this doesn't guarantee that someone won't delete pages via backlinks of the octagon image). Cheers, Миша13 22:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, done. (RK is not quite a sockpuppet - he had previously edited from an IP, and he never created another name, so he doesn't quite qualify). TheronJ 00:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Userboxes

Say I want to makes my own userboxes, such as:

This user is a resident of the third planet from Sol (the blue one).

Just like you did. That looks like a userbox allright. Can you expand what you mean? Миша13 20:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

For example, {{Wdefcon|prefix=User:Misza13/}} makes

If I understand you correctly now, what you want to do is edit User:SuperLuigi31/Userboxes/User earth and put the code {{subst:userbox|black|blue|[[Image:Solar_sys2.jpg|50px]]|This user is a resident of the third planet from Sol (the blue one).}} there (it will get expanded to the full wikicode). Then, to actually put the userbox on a userpage, use the code {{User:SuperLuigi31/Userboxes/User earth}}. Миша13 22:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, thank you! --SuperLuigi31 22:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Why wasn't User:SuperLuigi31/Userboxes/User vulcan philosophy convertd into WikiCode? --SuperLuigi31 17:30, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Because you wrote ((userbox|...}} instead of {{subst:userbox|...}}. Please read WP:SUBST. Миша13 18:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Lol after all of this, you had might as well adopt my WP account! Anyway, I have just a few more questions. I did the Wikipediholic test and came to wonder: what are bots, how do they work, and how would I go about making one? I am by no means planning on jumping up and making a bot (I'm still rather new, dispite my general proficiency at WP.), however I feel that that would be a good thing to learn about. Thanks!

PS: Nice geek code! --SuperLuigi31 01:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi Misza13, can you help me make a user page? Chunchuan 08:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm to busy at the moment (mostly in real life) to engage in more projects. I suggest that you try out putting the {{User FixMyPage}} template on your userpage and visit Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help to find people volunteering to overhaul people's userpages. Good luck, Миша13 12:16, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Гаврилов Сергей

Hello Misza13

What for you have blocked me in Wikipedia I there am registered - Gavrilov Sergey (Гаврилов Сергей) I live in Russia. Has written in discussion some amendments on a theme football. I was more than anything bad did not write. You of me are exact with whom that have mixed, or who that has written that that bad from my name. I to anybody bad did not make anything

Gavrilov Sergey (Гаврилов Сергей) Saint Petersburg Russia

[3] Your account or IP address has been blocked from editing. You were blocked by Misza13 for the following reason (see our blocking policy):

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.204.219.100 (talk • contribs) 22:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

Hello. I have blocked your account citing our policy WP:USERNAME, which encourages users to register accounts which are transliterations of the non-latin (cyrylic in your case) characters. In your case, a best solution would be to register and use the account User:Gavrilov Sergey. Миша13 22:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Гаврилов Сергей

Hello Миша. Thank. I have understood all. I should change Username. It is necessary to write Gavrilov Sergey Because of bad knowledge of English, I tried to make it, but nothing it turns out. Миша, the big request explain to me in Russian as it to make Or if probably change mine Username on necessary. Or completely remove me, I registration again. On all attempts the computer gives out all the same mine Username - Russian letters.

Username: Gavrilov Sergey —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.204.219.100 (talk) 10:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC).

Sorry, but I'm not Russian, but Polish and don't speak russian well enough. Anyway, I have unblocked the account User:Гаврилов Сергей. Please log on it, go to WP:CHU and post a request to change your username (to Gavrilov Sergey, for example) by following instructions given there. Миша13 15:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Henrygale2.jpg

You deleted Image:Henrygale2.jpg because it was "an unused fair use image". This is incorrect. Its been present, as far as I can tell, in the Benjamin Linus article this whole week, which can be verified by examining the history. It hasn't been removed. I would appreciate it if you undeleted the picture. Thanks.--CyberGhostface 23:18, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Very strange. I have undeleted it now, but the image page still doesn't say it is being used (and the article doesn't display the image). Must be some rare glitch or not updated cache. :-O Cheers, Миша13 23:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

After the image was deleted the picture was removed off the page, but part of it was after I had added it back to the page I had never bothered to remove the template. Anyway, thanks for your help in this matter, I appreciate it.--CyberGhostface 03:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

admin actions bot

By any chance, are you using a bot to rapidly delete/protect/block, or do you just have a lot of open tabs on your browser? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.162.111.249 (talk) 13:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

A mixture of both. Completely obvious cases go away automatically, and the rest I handle personally. Миша13 13:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Do you have bot aproval for this?Geni 16:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

According to WP:RBOT, "there are no bots currently authorized to run with sysop rights". Миша13 19:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

On know this. One what basis are you then running this bot?Geni 21:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

If I wanted to keep this conversation amusing, I'd say "on a daily basis". :) But I guess your question is more of a philosophical nature, i.e. "what the f*** do you think you're doing?" Well, I must say I was conflicted here - on one hand, there is our WP:BOT policy (which is majorly flawed and outdated, but that's beside the point) which requires me not only to get an approval for something that's perfectly fine to do, but also, quite possibly to go through a silly process of RfA, unless I didn't want to run it off a different account (but then I'd probably get shouted at for bypassing RfA using BRFA). On the other hand, I have the Prime Directive, as well as some serious copyright law to consider. Having weighted all factors, I have decided to apply WP:IAR selectively, help keep Wikipedia legally-safe and help some folks clean up the 3-day backlog of 1000s of images on CAT:ORFU. So far I have deleted something in the range of 10000 images in the span of 3 days (so that other admins can attend to more mind-involving issues), I have received a total of 1 (one) "complaint" (thread above), which wasn't even caused by an error on my side.

And now that we're speaking seriously, I'd like to ask you a question: Is this a problem for you? Do you question any of my deletions or just the fact that I did them automatically, saving others' (and my) time? Do you want me to release the source code so that you "know what's it doing" or do you want me to stop and go through torments of having to explain myself to the unfortunately-still-zomg-adminbot-paranoid community? (And given ProtectionBot's failure (and that was a mild adminbot, unlike this "crazy" rapid deletion script) I lean to doubt it'd get an approval.) Миша13 22:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Question: is the bot just going through the per-day sub-cats of Category:Orphaned fairuse images or is it actually verifying on a per-image basis that each image is not presently being used in article space? If it's not checking this, should it? --Cyde Weys 00:09, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'll be posting the code shortly. But here's what it does. It goes through the given CAT:ORFU subcategory and deletes every image that satisfies the following conditions:

• Image is orphaned, i.e. not used in article namespace
• The image page has been edited no earlier than 7 days ago (sometimes I shorten it to 6 days to finish off a day's category before the end of day)
• The last editor of the page was one of: User:BJBot, User:Fritzbot, User:OrphanBot.

Suggestions are welcome, though I think it's quite safe a setup. Миша13 00:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

PS: User:Misza13/Scripts/catorfu.py - okay, so I lied. :) I have added one non-bot to the list of authorized taggers (a very active one). Миша13 00:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Status Switcher

I can't seem to get you status switcher to work. I'm running FireFox and have cached the browser. Do you know what's wrong? --TeckWiz^ParlateContribs_@ 23:04, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

You had a stray comment closing tag, which I have removed. WP:PURGE if necessary, but it should work now. Cheers, Миша13 19:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

This is a automated to all bot operators

Please take a few moments and fill in the data for your bot on Wikipedia:Bots/Status Thank you Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 19:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiThanks

Just wondering

Hey, what is that AAAAAAAAAAAAA thing that shows up behind the wikiglobe on your user and talk pages? Aditya Kabir 08:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC) - Please, answer to my talk page

Thanks. Aditya Kabir 10:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Two images unfortunately deleted by you, can you help?

It seems that you have deleted two images I uploaded (Image:Chaltikanaam.gif and Image:Gangulybros01.jpg), along with all the painstaking work that went into rationalizing fair use and citing sources and authors, because they were lying about quite orphaned and were tagged as such by BJBot. Very unfortunate, because I was busy at the time and could not check on WP much, if at all.

They were not orphans to begin with, but rather was a part of the Ganguly family (films) article. A certain user (User:Prince Godfather) removed them from the article and reinstated a completely copyvio image gallery removed much earlier from the page. This amazing deed was reverted by another user (User:Yamla), but it was too late for the two images I mentioned.

Please note, that this particular user...

• has been accused of sockpuppetry
• has broken all civility guidelines
• contributes a great deal without any regard for verifiability or citation policies
• practices vandalism
• was blocked from WP once or twice, is engaged in quite a few edit wars
• ...and has responded very unfavorably when I questioned his behavior about the images in discussion.

I am checking this user as much as I can, though without the tools available to admins it's quite an arduous task. But, whatever happens to this amazing user, I'd very much like to have those images back on Wikipedia. I have learned the ropes for fair use policies the hard way, and am weary of the task of reinstating the info and rationales that are required.

It would be very helpful if you could tell me what do I have to do in getting those two images back along with the rationale and info back to the article I mentioned. Please, bear in mind that none of these two images had gone through any trouble with fair use (never tagged or reported at that). The orphan state was a misunderstanding brought about by a decadent user, not a fault of the uploader (which happens to be me). Can you help, please? Aditya Kabir 14:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC) - Please, respond to my talk page

See also, may be

• Discussion at User talk:Prince Godfather#Did you really have to do this?.
• Discussion at User talk:Aditya Kabir#Please help.

Resource persons

On the conduct of User:Prince Godfather:

• User:Yamla
• User:Anwar saadat

User Page

Hi, how do you do so the user page code is flipped? And, can i copy your page? Dvyjones^t·c·e 15:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Some magic with the special unicode RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE (U+202E) character. And copy freely if you wish; my contributions are PD-licensed, unless otherwise noted. Миша13 17:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry and thanks

Sorry to write such an epic. Well, this was the first time I requested to have images back, and probably the 50th time I got images deleted. Babbled too much... it's the nerves, I guess. And, thank you very much. Cheers. Aditya Kabir 20:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Hahahahahhahaha hahahahahhahahahahha hahahahhahahah oh my god hahahahahhahahahah. Aditya Kabir 07:31, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

image undeletion

Dear admin. You are one of the admins that deleted one of the around 70 images that became unlinked due to a change in an Infobox. This resulted in many of these images to become orphaned and subsequently deleted because they are not Free images. It took a while before the less experienced authors understood there was a problem and informed more experienced authors to look into the problem. Because these images would not be deleted if the template change had gone without problems, I ask they be undeleted. kindly -- 20:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

The swiftness...

My god you're fast! You've beaten me to that Longcat username three times :P. How I envy you...¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 02:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Y'know, brain-computer neural interface and all... :-D Миша13 08:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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Speedy-deleted image has been uploaded under another name

The uploader of an image you have speedy-deleted per CSD i5 (Unused unfree copyrighted images) has uploaded the same image again as Image:Goguryeo 1.jpg. The user seems to have uploaded it mainly for display at their user page, i.e. outside article space, so it is not covered under the fair use doctrine.

The uploader says the image can be found on many South Korean websites, but I doubt that makes it public domain. I have not tagged the new upload – perhaps you can decide what to do with it? Wikipeditor 13:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Right now, the image is being used on an article, so I have tagged it with {{Non-free fair use in}} and with {{fairusereview}} additionally, because I'm not a licensing expert in general. Additionally, I have removed the image from the user's page. Миша13 17:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiDefcon Question

Hello, I was wondering how you made your WikiDefcon thing? I would like to make one as well....would you mind giving me a couple pointers and a blank template (I won't copy yours...that would be rude), I would greatly appericate it. Thanks! Take care....SVRTVDude ^{(Yell - Toil)} 18:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, there's nothing rude in that - go ahead and copy freely. :-) My contributions are licensed PD unless otherwise noted. The simplest way is to create User:Orangemonster2k1/Wdefcon, make it a copy of User:Misza13/Wdefcon, for example, and adjust the layout and look&feel to your wish. Миша13 15:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Misza, WP:AIV is undergoing a heavy backlog. I notice that you maybe the only admin online, but could you help clear the backlog, because there is a HEAVY increase in vandalism. Thanks. Real96 23:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism warnings

Hi. I noticed that you had to revert the Jim Carrey article a couple of times today. I wanted to let you know that I placed a Level 2 warning on the User's talk page. I thought about going straight to Level 3, but wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.--Vbd | (talk) 01:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

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Deletions

I would invite you to comment on this thread where your activities are mentioned. Dragons flight 20:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Soonish

Thanks, you beat me by a second. ~ trialsanderrors 21:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Stop it

Don't revert my edits to the MJ article. That's as much as I'm saying. Noogster 22:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, for some reason edits like this look to me like if the article in question has been completely butchered (and in fact, the intro has been completely stripped of references). Finally, I don't like the tone of "That's as much as I'm saying." Миша13 22:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I didn't make that edit, Avraham did. The article does look a bit butchered, and for very good reason: the subject matter is extremely controversial. Both Christians and Rabbinic Jews completely misunderstand our religious beliefs and on Wikipedia apparently believe that they are much more qualified to define the finer points of our religion than we are. Edits or creation of Messianic Judaism articles. It is no surprise that the articles look torn. Noogster 22:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Is this the edit that Avraham did? Миша13 22:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Reverting User Talk Page

Dont revert my page anymore. Its mine. I want it blank. No more touch. Its very easy.--Kanekutter05 23:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it's not - please see WP:OWN. Also, removal of legitimate warnings is also prohibited. Миша13 23:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, I have been around Wikipedia for a while but not a expert on scripts. I attemped to follow this one and I could not understand it, I edited some of the pages as it said but does not seem to work. Do you know where I went wrong? - Mike Beckham 09:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

What was supposed to go in the /Status page was this. I also fixed a minor bug in your monobook (which was my fault). Now clear your cache and see if it works now. Миша13 10:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, it is very much apreciated! All works great! - Mike Beckham 10:47, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot and third-level section headings

You seem to have caused some breakage to section headings with this edit. Looks like a simple bug to me. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed that too. I got caught by a tricky regex trap, but it should be fixed now. However, it will be more tricky to clean up the mess it did with that thread... Миша13 21:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

User page prod

I believe the policy has changed. (Quote Proposed deletion is a process for deleting articles (and, under certain circumstances, user pages)). Agathoclea 22:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

EssjayBot III

Hey mate. I believe you wrote the code for Essjay's archiving bots (I could be wrong). If so, any chance you maybe resurrecting something similar as a MiszaBot? That bot was so so handy! :) Glen 10:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Gah, I've been observing the Essjay drama for a while and only just noticed that he (and his bots) quit. :'(

I've already started rewriting the code (since it's so messy) to a newer version, but gave it up due to real-life burden a while ago. But since there'll be a need for it, I'll try to find some time to dig it up and set up under MiszaBot. Миша13 10:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the news about Essjay sucks. Thanks in advance Glen 10:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

lol, this is exactly the same reason I'm here. – Steel 14:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Have patience - I'm working on it right now and making progress. :-D Damn, we have no BCM on this site... :-P Миша13 14:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay folks, it's set up. Now I just have to figure out the bot's other "clients", preferably without going through EB3's contribs or asking everyone... Миша13 23:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Yayayay. Thanks Misza. – Steel 23:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks matey! Glen 08:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

"This Space Is For Rent"

Hi, I notice you have a conveniently banner ad sized bit of userpage that you don't know what to do with :) Is it really for rent? If so, is it OK if I advertise stuff like maintenance collaborations and guidelines there? Thanks for your time – Qxz 19:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, yes it is. I used to have the motto there, but got disappointed. Then there was {{Special:Recentchanges/1}} trancluded for a while, but I got bored. Gurch promised to put something there, but left. So, I'm stuck with this piece of space and no ideas. Go ahead and edit User:Misza13/Global Header with regard to that space. If it's something interesting and I like it, I'll just adding something like "Ad by Qxz" and let it be. ;-) Миша13 19:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I've constructed a template in my userspace which randomly displays one of six banner-ad-shaped images that I've uploaded, some of which are animated. This template is already in use on my talk page and others; I'll add that to the header. I'm planning to add more over time – feedback on the ads themselves and suggestions for new ones would be most welcome. Thanks again – Qxz 00:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Reverted common.js change

Hi Misza, I reverted your edit on MediaWiki:common.js because it was causing issues with firefox. See discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Please_enable_JavaScript. If you feel that this was a mistake on my part, feel free to revert me back. Normally I'd consult you first, but I felt it was necessary to act quickly. Thanks. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 21:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

One of said "clients"

Hey there, Misza13, I saw in an above thread that you were looking for EssjaybotIII's former "clients". Well, I'm one of them. :-) I don't know what you need me to do to get back to the archiving business, but anyway, here's one user you don't have to hunt down. Talk to you soon! Heimstern Läufer 23:36, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I just saw your post to User:MiszaBot III. OK:

• User talk:Heimstern
• Current archive: User_talk:Heimstern/archive 3. Then on to 4, 5 etc.
• When to archive: Posts that are older than 14 days.
• Maximum archive size: 50K

OK, lemme know if there's anything else you need. Thanks! Heimstern Läufer 23:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Set. You sure about that 50K? It seems a bit low for me - the default I use is 250K, but as you wish... :) Миша13 23:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm one of EssjaybotIII's former clients too.

• User talk:Nishkid64
• Current archive: User_talk:Nishkid64/Archive 24.
• When to archive: Posts that are older than 2 days.
• Maximum archive size: 50K

Thanks a lot, Misza13. =) Nishkid64 01:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Will do as soon as I get back from work and get shell access to toolserv. Миша13 08:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. Миша13 17:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I just noticed this. Can it do archives by number of headings in each, rather than size? At the moment I start a new archive when the current one has 50 sections in it, it'd be nice if a bot could do that. Thanks – Qxz 03:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

That's one thing on my to-do list, I'll let you know when it's ready. Миша13 08:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! What do you think of the ads? – Qxz 11:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

They're changing, useful & amazing - thanks! :) Миша13 12:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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Bot request

Thanks for stepping in to replace Essjay's Bots. There were two pages that his Bots used to archive at my request:

• User talk:WJBscribe
  • Currect archive= User talk:WJBscribe/Archive 4
  • When to archive= Threads older than 7 days
  • Maximum archive size= 75K
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies
  • Current archive= Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies/Archive 5
  • When to archive= Threads older than 7 days
  • Maximum archive size= 150K

Would be very grateful if the appropriate MiszaBots could take over the archiving of those pages. Thanks, WjBscribe 15:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. Миша13 17:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi there! Could you find it in your heart to bot archive my talk pages, too? I was using Werdnabot, but it has been (temporarily?) decommissioned for reasons I have not been able to determine.

• User talk:Jeffpw
• Current archive= User talk:Jeffpw/archive 5
• When to archive= Threads older than 2 days
• Maximum archive size= 75 kb

Thanks in advance. Jeffpw 14:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. Миша13 14:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Misza, there an error in Jeff's request above- his current archive is actually User talk:Jeffpw/Archive 5... WjBscribe 15:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Миша13 15:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

My user page deleted

Hey, I noticed you deleted my user page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=User%3A2help , because it had not been active for a month. OK, I didn't realize that was a policy on Wikipedia. Did you even tag it for deletion previously?

In any case, I understand your good intentions. I had some useful links there however, any chance I could get them back or is the page lost for good? 2help 07:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not that simple. You have the template {{test5i}} transcluded on your page. It adds your page to the Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages, which gets cleaned up periodically. But that assumes that the template was put on pages of users that were indefinitely blocked, which is not the case here. Since it is only me, who does the cleanup recently, before the next run I'll think of something so that it doesn't get deleted again. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Happy editing, Миша13 08:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, that makes sense. Thanks for reposting the page. Let me know if there is anything I can do make your cleanup process easier. 2help 00:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I saw this discussion while here on Bot business. I've removed the Category: Temporary Wikipedian userpages from 2help's userpage. Given that he must use the shortcuts on the left and not copy and paste from the right, it doesn't seem to affect his use of warnings whether the cat is there or not (he just wants to see what they look like)... WjBscribe 15:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh, I should've checked the page's contents myself. Then I'd probably notice that a bot has substituted them already 3 months ago. Anyway, that means they're probably severely out of date now (with the help of the WP:UW project). Oh well... Миша13 15:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I left a message on his talkpage including a link to WP:UWT so he can find out about the shiny new warning system... WjBscribe 15:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot status granted

Congratulations! I have flagged you as a bot! =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

LOL, not me but my bot, hopefully, but thanks! :) Миша13 18:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Yet another bot archive request

Your bot has successfully archived my talk pages, for which I thank you. A wikifriend of mine asked me to set up Werdnabot on his talk page (this before we knew Werdna died). I set up archives for him, and am now making the bot request on his behalf. You can see his request to me here.

• his page: User talk:Labyrinth13
• Archive: User talk:Labyrinth13/Archive 1
• When to archive= More than 2 days
• Maximum archive size= 75 kb.

Thanks a lot for providing this help. Sincerely, Jeffpw 19:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Already requested at User:MiszaBot/Archive requests and ready. Миша13 19:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the archive work

Thank you for taking over the archival of my talk page. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

My thanks too, I think you deserve:

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		For setting up Bots to take over the archiving work of the EssjayBots and Werdnabot. WjBscribe 19:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

archival request

Hi Misza - I request the User:MiszaBot III's services to archive my talkpage.

• What page do you want the bot to archive? (D'oh!): User talk:Rama's Arrow
• Sole archive (target): User talk:Rama's Arrow/Archive2007-A (no variables)
• Posts should be archived every 10 days.
• No maximum archive size.

Cheers, Rama's arrow 15:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. I've actually set it to /Archive$Y-A in the special "dated" mode, which means it should switch by itself next year. It'll however have a hard time with big, year-old archives... :/ Миша13 15:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! As regards to the year, can you set it to switch to user talk:Rama's Arrow/Archive2007-B after June 30, 2007? Basically I'm trying to have 2 archives for each year. Lemme know if there's anything I can do to simplify the process. Thanks again, Rama's arrow 18:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, right now it only supports variables for the year and month of thread. For an example, see how my archives are organised. I don't think I'll be adding this particular feature (-A and -B), unless I implement some sort of formula parsing, so just bug me in summer whenever it's time to turn the counter. Миша13 18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Aite cool! Thanks again! Rama's arrow 01:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot III Features

Is there a feature list somewhere? Like, will it create an {{archivebox}} automatically, or just add to one, etc? Thanx... — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 14:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

No, there is no feature list at the moment, because I expect it to evolve rapidly soon. So far it can put threads into archives and move on to next when they reach a certain size (in kilobytes). It lacks the automatic updating of an archive box yet, and that's gonna be one difficult feature to add. Миша13 14:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, just checking. Apparently, I'm not the only one with the problem that I had EssjayBot doing it, so then went to Werdnabot which never even ran on mine. Anyway, what language is it in? I may be able to contribute a little. — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 14:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

A task for you

WP:AIV Has filled up at an alarming rate, and is extremely backlogged. Can you please sort it out? Retiono Virginian 14:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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Ta!

It works wonderfully! Ta! :) Gwen Gale 20:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops

For some reason your archive bot put the archive here: User talk:HighInBC/Archive $I, looks like it is reading a variable literally. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 02:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks like the same prob happened with all the archiving done at 02:35 [4]. WjBscribe 02:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I have blocked the bot for 24 hours, so it does not do it again on it's next run(I assume it runs at automatic intervals). Once you know what has gone wrong I will gladly unblock. Sorry about that, thank you for filling in with this much needed service. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 02:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops indeed. I have rewritten the variable handling yesterday, uploaded the new code to toolserv, uploaded updated config for I and II, but forgot about III. :-P Anyway, since it's fixed and mess cleaned up, I'll unblock it myself, if you don't mind. And thanks for keeping an eye on it - it's still in rapid development stage and while I test it before running, errors such as this may still happen. Миша13 10:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Essjay

Could you tell me where you think the sourcing of the Essjay article is lacking? I'm truly keen on knowing what you think :) Gwen Gale 12:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting any lackings. My sarcasm was rather refering to the fact that any articles on controversial, even-if-marginally-notable-outside-Wikipedia topics tend to have their references section blown out of proportion compared to the size of article, with nearly every sentence referenced. This of course is required so that noone can find a proper stick to kill the article with. And by the way, I really and without sarcasm would like people to concentrate on the 1,6M+ other articles we have, most of which are crap beyond imagination with regard to refernces. Миша13 13:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Aye, that's the pith. Gwen Gale 13:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey by the way I think this is spot on. Gwen Gale 14:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot problem

Hi Misza13, thank you so much for taking my order. There seems to be a proble, though. The bot is archiving my messages to Archive03, not Archive3 as I'd requested. Is that how it work? Thanks a lot. Xiner (talk, email) 14:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

No, it's an error on my side. I must've just made an error when copy-pasting the configuration. Should be fixed now. Миша13 14:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool, I see it's working beautifully now. Thanks! Xiner (talk, email) 14:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Kosova

If you have written the article on Kosova then you have written lies!

I was deleting those lies and the things which had nothing to do with Kosova. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ulpian morina (talk • contribs) 15:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Archiving Bot

Hello, Misza! Just wanted to let you know that I added my talk page to your list. Great job creating the bot, it makes many Wikipedians' lives much easier! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book, review me!) 22:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book, review me!) 23:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

hater club page

I think you should protect this page. See the history. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 23:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

can you undelete an image that you deleted?

Misza13, can you undelete Image:PlanViewPascuaLama.jpg. I believe it was deleted b/c it was not in the article (Pascua Lama), yet. If it's undeleted, I'll add it to the article in question. Thanks! Earthsound 05:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. Please add the image and remove the orphan tags from the image. Миша13 17:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! done. Earthsound 05:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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Unfair block!!!!

Hey, why did you block the user "Can't sleep, Retiono Virginian will eat me" because of username!!?? That's unfair!! If you people can tolerate the presence of "Can't sleep, clown will eat me", why can't you allow this one!!?? --Edmundkh 16:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

There is a troll who has been taking names very similar to User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me's name to cause disruption. This choice of name has been used has a form of harassment in the past. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 16:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Trendypopup.jpg

This fair use image became orphaned due to vandalism that was not correctly reverted. Do you feel that its fair-use rationale still applies to the article (Pop-up Video)? –Unint 19:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I would say yes, but don't quote me on this (I'm not an expert). Since it was deleted by mistake, I have restored it. Миша13 20:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Do Unreplied

Does MiszaBot III archive unreplied messages? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 23:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes - it makes decisions basedon oldest timestamp in a thread. Sections without timestamps are ignored (will add an option to archive these in future). Миша13 00:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't it archive based on the newest comment? Otherwise a very long thread (lets say 10 days) will be archived though it's still ongoing. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 00:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Did I say "oldest"? Please discard my incoherent babbling - it's 1AM here... Of course it looks on the newest timestamp. Миша13 00:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

How about MiszaBot II? It would be nice on places like Wikipedia:Drawing board to leave requests that haven't gotten replies yet alone when archiving. The idea being that once the clutter of replied to requests are archived, the unreplied requests will stand out better, not to mention that these users deserve a reply even if there's a backlog. Thanks! —Elipongo (Talk|contribs) 07:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot III weirdness

Hey, I've noticed that MiszaBot III has been archiving threads from my user page to User talk:Coredesat/Archive 07. The threads should be going to User talk:Coredesat/Archive 7. Could you fix this? --Coredesat 05:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick fix. :) --Coredesat 20:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Jimbo Wales archiving age

User talk:Jimbo Wales is currently archiving threads older than 2 days. It was originally 7 days, but I lowered it due to the high traffic it had been receiving due to the Essjay incident. Now that the high traffic has subsided, it might be a good idea to return to the old behaviour. --cesarb 07:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Adjusted. Миша13 21:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I love it!

Hi, Michael. I just love the new MiszaBot III. It is one of the best bots here. Great work! --Meno25 07:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Harry potter and the Deathly Hallows, talk

Could you please stop your bot auto archiving the above page? Sandpiper 19:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I have disabled it per your request, although I don't understand what's wrong with it. Please make up your mind - I didn't come to set up the archiving on my own, but was asked by someone else (User:Fbv65edel). Миша13 19:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Misza, I know Essjay used to insist on seeing a concensus on an article's talkpage before he was willing to archive it. If this sort of thing continues, you might want to introduce a similar requirement for MiszaBot. WjBscribe 19:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

People put comments on talk pages and might like to read the answers they get before the whole lot gets deleted. 5 days delay is crazy. Aside from that, 5 months is crazy if a point is important and still relevant to the contents of the page. You can't just archive away things useful to editors. I have made up my mind, and on this point I havn't changed it. I don't recall anyone asking. FBV did ask about himself archiving some stuff on that page, but in that case he also went ahead and did it before I even noticed he was considering it, which rather illustrated my first point. Sandpiper 00:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot not working right?

It seems that every time bot III runs, it stops at Martinp23, and my page has yet to be archived. Is there something wrong? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 20:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the user right after Martin was renamed and the bot freaked out on a page redirect. Such problems will be entirely fixed once I implement a Werdnabot-style template-based config. Миша13 20:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

::Okay. And also, my page just archived to User talk:TeckWiz/Archive/2007/Ma, when it should go to User talk:TeckWiz/Archive/2007/Mar (not the "r" at the end.) It should be going to User talk:TeckWiz/Archive/{{CURRENTYEAR}}/{{CURRENTMONTHABBREV}}. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 20:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Your fast! --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 20:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Odd behavior today

For some reason, today it archived one thread from User talk:RevRagnarok (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) and then did another, five minutes later? — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 20:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

One was the scheduled and the other manual. I was tweaking TeckWiz's page settings and the other thread just happened to jump on the second round. :) Scheduled runs start on HH:35 (every 6 hours). Миша13 21:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, that makes sense - manual run ;) — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 01:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Shadow1

Hi, it seems that one user Shadow1 is using the defunct Werdnabot for archiving. Could you please contact him for using MiszaBot III. Cheers! zero » 01:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I see you have contacted him already. If he needs the service, he'll know where to sign up. Миша13 08:19, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

suggestion

I see you've been blocking a bunch of disruptive usernames ("x is y's IP" and the like). Way to catch those guys! Could I suggest, however, that you enable autoblock, to prevent them from creating more ridiculous usernames? I think it's pretty clear that they aren't going to be constructive contributors. Natalie 03:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I usually avoid setting autoblocks, because they are discouraged due to collateral damage (the vandal may be using a shared IP, and they usually are) and WP:AGF. Only in severe cases (long series of abusive names) I tick the box. There's however one username vandal that just returns after the autoblock expires and also hops IPs. Regards, Миша13 08:25, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiver

Hello! I currently have your bot archiving my talk page, but I've found that the archive page is just too long. Is it possible for you to change it so that the archive is switched after 125KB instead 250KB? Thanks! --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 01:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Adjusted. Миша13 06:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Archive bot suggestion

Hi Misza, I have a suggestion for archiving the noticeboards. There could be two settings for thread age to trigger archiving. If the thread is either "resolved" (using {{resolved}}), or "closed", then the thread can be archived earlier, and in addition, threads that are idling because people haven't paid attention to some request will stay unarchived longer. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-16 07:34Z

Nice suggestions, but you should keep implementational issues in mind too. While the detection of {{resolved}} is a simple idea and should be ready soon, but I don't quite understand how do you propose to detect the "closed" state of a thread. Also, how do you discern threads that noone has paid attention too from those that are resolved & closed already, but perhaps not tagged properly? Миша13 07:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Good point, well, it'll be another incentive to mark threads as {resolved} :) —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-16 10:12Z

I added 'class="discussion-archived"' to the div in Template:discussion top, so it should be easy to detect it now. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-17 05:39Z

Werdnabot

Given that this Bot is unavailable for now- and at worse case scenario may have become ownerless, I think its important to draw people's attention to this and suggest your bot as an alternative. Otherwise Wikipedia may drown in its own talk (and boy do we all like to talk!). I was thinking of a post at WP:AN and on the Village Pump (I don't see any so far). Just wanted to check with you first as to whether you minded the possibly large inflow of requests you might get... WjBscribe 14:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I could quite easily process even 10s of requests as long as they follow instructions. Worse thing will be with cleaning up the talk pages from old code (if I'm not mistaken, WB used to maintain and update archive indexes - a feature MiszaBot doesn't have yet). Миша13 14:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it did that if the "archivelist=" parameter was included, but it looks like most users of the template did not included it. So either people didn't want it, or didn't realise it could do that. Either way the function shouldn't be missed too much....

If you're happy with the extra requests I'll post a couple of notes about Werdnabot and suggest your Bot as an alternative. Thanks, WjBscribe 14:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

At the end, Werdnabot (talk · contribs) was handling 655 talk pages. Can you handle that many? JRSpriggs 07:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

A Werdnabot clone, Shadowbot3, should be coming online shortly so Misza won't have to take on all the Bot archiving on Wikipedia. WjBscribe 07:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

bot archive?

Does your bot archive user talk pages as well? I looked on the bots page but it said it only does noticeboards. However your talk page seems to indicate otherwise. If so, could I get your bot to archive my user talk page at User talk:Swatjester? Thanks!⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 19:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Where does it say so? MiszaBot III archives user talk pages. For my convenience, please apply via User:MiszaBot/Archive requests. Миша13 20:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I was looking at Miszabot II. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 05:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Archive jumping at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Credential Verification

Jimbo cleared out the whole page at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Credential Verification, moving the whole page to the second archive (your bot was still at the first archive). Could you make your bot archive starting at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Credential Verification/Archive 3, so newly archived discussions will not mix up with discussions from before the "reset"? --cesarb 02:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Adjusted. Миша13 10:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Foreign Wikipedias

Hi, Misza, do you run your bot on foreign wikipedias as well? At Swedish Wikipedia we would like to have our Village Pump archived on a regular basis. Is this something you can do? //Knuckles 15:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll release the source code soon enough, so everyone should be able to set up their own archiving service with only little knowledge of pywikipedia. Миша13 17:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, thanks! :-) //Knuckles 17:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

User Status

Hi! The user status is a great idea! But I just can't get it to work. I followed the instructions and the only thing that I changed was "Example's Status" to "Greeves' Status" on the template. If you could have a look at it, I have all the same page names that you chose. The strange thing is that I see the in/out/busy when I preview my monobook yet when I save, it doesn't stay. Thanks in advance! Greeves ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it just took a few minutes to kick in. LOL! Thanks for the great script though! Greeves ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Quite understandable. On preview, the JS is force-loaded, but making it persistent requires clearing the browser's cache. You can read more about it on WP:CACHE. Cheers, Миша13 18:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Strange bot behaviour at User talk:Jimbo Wales

MiszaBot III was already archiving to User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 22; for some reason, it has now gone back to User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 21, which is already full. --cesarb 03:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Strange, since the counter in the config explicitly states "22" now - maybe just a one-time glitch - I'll see if it repeats itself. Миша13 17:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Wdefconbot

When will this be fixed? Real96 05:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean? It seems to be working fine. Миша13 17:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see it on IRC. Real96 23:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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My archive

Hi, Misza. There's something weird going on with my archive. It's set to switch at 125KB, but it currently is 137KB. Also, my discussions are being archived after one day instead of three. Can you help me please? It's located at User talk:Cremepuff222/Archive2. Thanks in advance. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 21:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, after MiszaBot's last edit, the archive had only 117K. Then you dumped some stuff manually and overloaded it to its current state. By how the bot works, it will now drop one more thread there and then detect that it's full (it assumes it's the only archiver) and move on to #3. As of thread age, can you point me to a diff where it archived a thread "younger" than 3 days? Cheers, Миша13 21:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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What's the code in order to change WPDefconbot on IRC? Can you please tell me on talk page? Thanks. Real96 22:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Bots

Hey, your bots didn't edit today. (I had to archive my talk page myself! :o) Are they dead, or just sleeping? Sorry for being impatient :) – Qxz 21:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

For one thing, I have lowered the edit rate to one run daily. For the other, seems that toolserv had a downtime while the run was scheduled (2:35) for today. Миша13 21:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, they're on the toolserver. Got to expect a bit of downtime then, I guess :P – Qxz 20:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Slow bot to 24h cycle

Hi Misza13,

Recently, MiszaBot III ran three times in a 24 hour period on a user talk page:

• 20:36, 18 March 2007 MiszaBot III (Talk | contribs) m (Archiving 1 thread(s) older than 3d to User talk:Qxz/Archive 5.)
• 08:36, 18 March 2007 MiszaBot III (Talk | contribs) m (Archiving 2 thread(s) older than 3d to User talk:Qxz/Archive 4, User talk:Qxz/Archive 5.)
• 02:36, 18 March 2007 MiszaBot III (Talk | contribs) m (Archiving 2 thread(s) older than 3d to User talk:Qxz/Archive 4.)

It would be more convenient for me if the bot only ran once in a 24-hour period on a given talk page. (This is because when I am monitoring a talk page, I like to select an entire range of revisions and just see the differences between the first and last revisions. Each time an archive bot runs, it inserts a large revision that is irrelevant to me.)

Expressing my 2¢ worth,

--Kevinkor2 21:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

And you are monitoring my talk page for what reason? :D – Qxz 07:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Good point - I'll down the frequency to 1 edit per day for user talks. Миша13 17:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I see elsewhere on your talkpage that MiszaBot III has missed a few cycles. I'm sorry if my suggestion is causing troubles. Please feel free to undo. --Kevinkor2 04:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot III

Hi, MiszaBot III hasn't archived my talkpage since March 19, although there are now a number of threads older than 7 days on it. Is there a problem? I'd be grateful if you could find a sec to look into it. WjBscribe 02:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I nailed it. It seems to stop after User talk:KenWalker. Guessing that User talk:Kimonandreou is next on the list, I know what's the problem - again a redirect page that holds off the whole cycle. I'll fix it as soon as I get shell access. Миша13 07:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Small harmless bug

There is a small harmless bug here[6] where it says it is archiving 3 threads, but it is really archiving 4 threads. I think it is because on of those threads has no replies. Just thought I would point it out, thanks for taking over the archiving work. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 03:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Difficult to tell from the look of the diff and I don't have detailed execution logs either. My best guess would be that (for some reason) the bot didn't recognize one of the thread headers and treated it as a part of the previous one's content. Миша13 07:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

No big deal, lord knows I still have several little bugs in my bots. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 20:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

politics

a mess or a disaster? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Perfectscrewup (talk • contribs) 18:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

??? Миша13 18:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Usertalk page 204.185.75.130

Why is 204.185.75.130's talk page protected? This makes it so even that user can't request unblocking.. Spixels 20:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

In cases when a user/IP abuses the {{unblock}} template or repetitively vandalises their talk page while blocked (and that was the apparent case here), their talk page may be protected from editing until the block expires. Миша13 20:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Then in that case could you add {{schoolip|Liberty Public Schools}}. (The only (possible) DNS I know of for this IP address is liberty.k12.mo.us which doesn't match up with 204.185.75.130) Spixels 21:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Change to my archive?

Hi, Misza! Could you check the archive page that you're putting my archived messages to? I think it's going to User talk:SatryTN/Archive 4 instead of User talk:SatyrTN/Archive 4 - notice the order of the "y" and "r". Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 04:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. A tyop on my side, obviously. :) Миша13 11:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Np - thanks much!! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 13:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

End of month in archiving bot

Hi Misza! Is there a way that your bot can move all messages from that month to that archive no matter what (currently, if you use month archives, and someone leaves a message on the 27, and you have your bot set to archive after its 7 days old, it will archive to the next month, since it will be a new month in 7 days). Thanks! --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 13:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

No it won't. Each thread's time is equal to the last timestamp in that thread. So, if someone posts on 27th of March and you reply on 28th then it will be archived somewhere in April, but will land in the March archive (because the thread's timestamp is from March). Миша13 13:57, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

So even though it's programmed to archive to {{CURRENTMONTHABBREV}}, it will archive a March thread in April to the March archive? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 14:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC).

It's never been programmed to archive to {{CURRENTMONTHABBREV}}, but rather to %(monthnameshort)s. Миша13 14:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Thats great! Werdnabot never did that. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 14:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Experimental backlinking MiszaBot drive

Hmmm, does this mean everyone's going to have to have a template on their talk page for MiszaBot to work? And you didn't select me! :( – Qxz 17:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it means that. And sorry for not choosing you - I just needed a small sample - will run a batch conversion of all current users later on. Миша13 17:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and you might want to protect User:MiszaBot/config. Just in case someone finds it – Qxz 17:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Hrmmmyes... I know that... What's this wikistalking about, anyway? ^.^ Миша13 17:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Algo

What does the "algo" parameter mean? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 22:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Have a guess. Миша13 22:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

But what does that tell the bot? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 22:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

What are the conditions under which it should archive a thread. Миша13 22:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't "maxage" do that. Thanks! --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 22:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, finally a good point. Obviously that's a screw up on my part. In the new system, the maxage parameter is ignored (as it is superceded by algo) - I forgot to scrap it when upgrading the system. I'll set up a hack in the code so that it gets removed on the next run. Миша13 22:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Template

You're probably getting tired of me (seeing as this is the third time I've posted a message on this page), but does the template allow users to change MiszaBot's archiving settings? --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 23:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

(before edit conflict) I'm actually tired of keeping up with the new requests and maintaining the current configuration (it breaks more often than you might think). Thus, the answer is "yes" - configuration to the hands of people. :) I'm putting a short manual on User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo. Миша13 23:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh! I just saw that you created the User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo page. Sorry to bother you. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 23:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

(after edit onflict) grrr.... >:( Миша13 23:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

Can you stop archiving my talk page until I get back (probably in two weeks), because I am on Wikibreak. Thanks! Real96 03:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Just remove the template from your page. (it now works like Werdnabot, Misza doesn't have to manually change everything) --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 03:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

New interesting article

Check this out: Battle of Jarosław, and please, make it better :) Pan Wikipedia 13:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd love to (like I'd like to improve all articles on Wikipedia), but I really suck at writing articles and am much better suited to technical assistance and gnomish work. Besides, I have no idea where to get sources from to improve it. Try asking for help on our noticeboard, perhaps? :-) Миша13 14:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Ooops

Saw your correction on my watchlist just before I got your message, sorry.... (Just can't trust people to do it themsleves :-) ). WjBscribe 14:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bridges

I see this page has been set to be archived by Miszabot - I had thought it was polite to see if there was a consensus among the page's users before doing so? This has removed quite a lot of material that as far as I was concerned was still relevant, ongoing discussion and it will be tedious to go through and restore the relevant items. -- Kvetner 22:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Instructions I've pointed out in various places do mention that some consensus is welcome when archiving public noticeboards. It's up to the users now, really - don't blame neither the bot nor me. You can simply revert the bot (since it's still the top contributor) and remove the template I've added here (or adjust the settings, although threads that are one month old are hardly "ongoing" to me). Миша13 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Main page talk archiving

Just keeping with what bot does what: Even though the main page talk is actually in the talk mainspace, shouldn't MiszaBotII be archiving it, since it's Wikipedia related? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 00:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

In an ideal world, it should, and it did back when each bot read the full configuration from a file given to it. Now they all work via backlinks to User:MiszaBot/config and I can only restrict each one to one namespace or one page, but cannot ban a bot from editing a page. Yet. Миша13 09:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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MiszaBot III

There is a malfunction of your bot's service. Its edit summary indicates that my posts are transferred from my talk page to a special file called "/dev/null". Could you fix it? — zero » 03:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Because it's not just "formatting" - the options need to be given line-by-line, not smashed together. Otherwise, the bot won't fine a line named "|archive=" and assume you want the posts to go to nowhere. It's not the bot's malfunction, maybe I haven't made myself clear enough on the instructions page. Миша13 09:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot?

Hi - got a bot running un books in your name - User:MiszaBot - misplacing categories at present. Reverted and blocked for now - thanks --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Could be a vandal bot - feel free to let me know - thanks --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on wikibooks. Миша13 11:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - digging a bit - looks like a few vandal bots created. IP here has a W o W reference too! Indef blocked the bot - thanks for the help - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Documentation?

Can you add some documentation on how us mortals can edit things like

{{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 125K |counter = 94 |algo = old(3d) |archive = Talkfrr:Main Page/Archive %(counter)d }}

, since I cannot find any documentation about it anywhere. Especialy the "algo" bit. ffm ✎talk 20:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Every bot has a big link to User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo on their userpage, where all options are explained. algo= basically tells when to archive a page. Миша13 20:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, is there a way to get the bot to put {{talkarchive}} {{archive-nav|(counter)}} on every new archive page it creates for Talk:Main Page? ffm ✎talk 20:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Not yet. Миша13 20:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick reply, and sorry for my stupididy in the first posting. ffm ✎talk

There are no stupid questions - only answers and it btw helped me spot that some evil anon broke the config. (I'd spot that from error logs, but anyway...) Миша13 20:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, then I am glad to have been of help! ffm ✎talk 20:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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No, I didn't forget to switch accounts, and yes, I decided it would be best to make it clear that both accounts are mine. I didn't do so initially because I didn't want to cause yet more fuss – Qxz 12:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk archive header

I think it would be good to have the archiver put the {{talkarchive}} template at the top of each archive page. Sancho (talk) 16:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedians who support Hezbollah

I know that. That was the reason they gave when deleting "Wikipedians who support Hezbollah". Where I come from, they call it double-standards. ^Klak_Sonn^{Keep it to yourself} 18:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm just pointing out that if you continue this line of disruptive edits, your editing privileges may be revoked. Миша13 18:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Usernameblock

Unless this account is sockpuppet or has made inappropriete edits, vandalism, trolling, personal attacks, harassment, etc., I just want to point out that I think the account creation block should still be lifted, only blocking the username, not the ability to create a new account for the IP from which the account originated from(Unless if the IP has a history of repeated malicious account creation).--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. (talk • contribs) 16:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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Bot functionality

Question: Do your three archiving bots need it so that timestamps are in the pages themselves? I tried to set up MiszaBot II for archiving Wikipedia:Recent additions but so far nothing has happened, so I'm wondering if it determines which comments to archive based on timestamps in the edit form, or from the page history? Thanks. howcheng {chat} 18:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

It's only capable of archiving entire sections, that is from one == blah == to another == foor bar ==. And it scans for timestamps inside these section. Sections without timestamps are ignored. So, since there's only one section on Wikipedia:Recent additions ("Did you know..."), and it doesn't contain any ~~~~-type timestamps, none of my bots will ever touch that page. It's really a discussion archiver, nothing more. Миша13 19:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. howcheng {chat} 19:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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MiszaBotIII query

I have changed the arhival target in {{AutoArchivingNotice}}, from User talk:Steptrip/Archive_2 to User talk:Steptrip/Archive_3, but the bot continues to archive messages to the former target, instead of the latter ... any idea what's up / how to fix it?  ~Steptrip 14:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Because the bot doesn't care about the {{AutoArchivingNotice}} at all and neither does it update it. all it honors is the link to User:MiszaBot/config and it's settings. Also, can you tell me why do you use two bots for archiving? Миша13 14:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I think I use two archival bots because I started out with Werdnabot, but when it went offline, I turned to MiszaBotIII, and I have to say, your bot is better than Werdnabot and Shadowbot3. To change the archival settings, do I just adjust the target in the MiszaBot/Config box?  ~Steptrip 17:38, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes. You can read about the various options on User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo. Миша13 17:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Block

You blocked User:John A. Robinson for username. An WP:RFCN is underway so the user should be unblocked to allow them to contribute in this. If i have made a mistake please tell me. G Donato (talk to me...) 21:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

There is an RFC discussion of your username block of John A. Robinson (talk · contribs). Sam Blacketer 21:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC) (added simultaneously with the above - sorry Sam Blacketer 21:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC))

Yes, I'm not sure why you made this block... please comment. Generally, you should explain why in the block log. [8] Mahalo. --Ali'i 21:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I get it. This is a Johnny the Vandal username. A completely perfect example of why blocks should not be decided by committee. I've reinstated the block and closed the RFCN. Mangojuice^talk 01:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I apologize for not consulting you. Seems like we have another yellow-light name. I raised this issue on WT:U. BuickCenturydriver (Honk, contribs) 01:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

My bad for unblocking. Ill be more careful in the future. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 02:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Wait and be careful I checked into this, Johnny the Vandal's sock was User:John Robinson Freeq, not John A. Robinson, completely different. It could be someone else who's real name is John A. Robinson, like J. Alan Robinson, if it's him, as it is a common name. Also the user has done no vandalism in his contrib page, how do u know he's the vandal? Wooyi^{Talk, Editor review} 02:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Seems I have missed the entire discussion while asleep. If anyone still cares about my explanation, then yes - Johny the Vandal creates all sorts of usernames in the form of "John <second name (sometimes abreviated)> Robinson" and I block then routinely, pending confirmation. And the confirmation usually comes in the form of an incomprehensible or abusive {{unblock}} request. Миша13 07:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard archive

Hi. I've kept track of new Administrators' noticeboards archives and added {{Administrators' noticeboard navbox all}} whenever new pages are created, as well as updating the navboxes. Lately, I noticed that when MiszaBot archives the admins' noticeboards, it adds {{talkpage}} tag at the top, which is odd, since an archive is not a talkpage. However, if MiszaBot can be programmed to add {{Administrators' noticeboard navbox all}} instead of {{talkpage}}, it would save me a bit of work. --Edokter (Talk) 21:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't have this functionality yet, but I'll hopefully work on it in the following days and let you know. Cheers, Миша13 07:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Essjay spoofs

Thanks for blocking 4 of those inflammatory Essjay spoofs. God, I type in two usernames of well-known admins at Special:Listusers and I have a full page of inflammatory usernames. Btw, you may want to type in your name and see what kinds of spoofs come up.  ~Steptrip 23:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Mmmyes... Apparently, I have a crush on Kate McAuliffe, whoever that is. :D Миша13 07:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't knock it- I will feel that I have made it as an admin if I get some vandals creating silly usernames about me... WjBscribe 07:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

please!

Can you do my page? LazyLaces 15:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't "do" userpages anymore. And yours it's not that bad if you ask me. Миша13 16:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Bot created archives

Hi. Wouldn't it be nicer to make the bots start new archives with {{talkarchive}} instead of {{talkheader}} as they are doing now? talkheader template is usually put in articles talk pages only. Thanks. --Meno25 23:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Changed. My bad, obviously. Миша13 09:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Relatively serious MiszaBot error?

This archiving doesn't seem to have made it to the specified archive page... -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Good catch, thanks. Reading from the logs, it seems the bot got some kind of unexpected error when commiting the edit to the archive, but didn't realize that the edit didn't come through (more an unclear pywikipedia bug than in the logic of my program). I have archived those 5 sections manually and will reset the bot to first save the archives and then the page, so that there's no chance of data loss (at worst, duplicated threads would appear in the archives). Миша13 09:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Bot availability on other Wikis?

Hi -- I edit here and on the ISFDB Wiki, and have been using Werdnabot for archiving my own talk page. I noticed your bots and was wondering if it would be possible to use them on the ISFDB Wiki. Is that something you might be interested in? If so, I can talk to a couple of folks over there and we can see if it's technically possible. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 14:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

This should be easily doable soon. For one thing, the bot is based on the pywikipedia framework, so should work on any MediaWiki. I'm also planning on releasing the source code soonish, so that anyone can make use of it on their own. Миша13 22:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. Is there a page I can watchlist that will mention when the source code is released? Thanks. Mike Christie (talk) 02:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

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TheInvisibleMachine8

Can we call this guy a ban from editing from Wikipedia. He went on a spree blanking some pages. WikipediaFan98 10:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Community sanction noticeboard. Миша13 14:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

AN and AN/I archiving thought

Thought you might want to comment ("vraaagh, why are you all requesting features?") at Wikipedia_talk:Administrators' noticeboard#Resolved threads archived sooner?. Just an idea I had. – Luna Santin (talk) 19:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

User:MiszaBot I

I'm not sure if you're aware, but this bot seems to be down. It hasn't done anything since the 12th, and I'm pretty sure it should have archived some discussion in the main page at least. Cheers Nil Einne 19:04, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

No worries. There was a bug in pywikipedia which prevented it from working. It'll go just fine on the next cycle. Thanks for the heads up. Миша13 19:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Archiving for User:MiszaBot III

Hi, the above bot skipped archiving my talkpage. I guess thee is a error. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 18:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Now he didn't archive all of it. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 18:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Um, could you please archive it again. I really need it archived. If you don't I'll just use Werdnabot. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 18:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Please check again and in future, give me a while - if I have reverted the bot immediately, it means I have spotted the error and intended to fix it. The "You have new messages" bar won't make it faster. Миша13 19:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, now the bot didn't archive all of the threads over 7 days. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 19:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Your talk page exhibited some ancient posts with non-standard timestamp formats. I've expanded the pattern as far as possible. Threads with unusual or missing timestamps will be ignored. Миша13 20:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't the bot remove the comments once he archives them? He isn't on mine. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 21:00, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me? It's removing them just fine. Can you find a thread that it has archived and left on you talk page? Миша13 21:19, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

The article licensing notice. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 12:56, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

That thread is nowhere to be found in the archives (so it's not like you suggest - that the bot archived it and didn't remove). Furthermore, it will never be, because my bot ignores messages without timestamps. You are welcome to archive it on your own. Миша13 13:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Misha! I haven't seen you around in a while—I guess the disintegration of Esperanza split up a lot of us wikipedians, eh? I thought you'd appreciate a non-bot-related thread on your talkpage (it looks like you've inherited a lot of Essjay's stress). I like the cyrillic alphabet in your signature, I've been considering using it in my own. Drop by and leave me a note sometime. Cheers, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 14:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I feel the same way Esperanza. I miss the IRC and coffee lounge, they helped give a lot of wikipedians the opportunity to show their silly side here—and despite the public opinion, I still think that that matters. But I was also disappointed to see Esperanza so bureaucratic towards the end. We lost a lot of metapedians who made this place fun. So many of them have been banned, quit, or have just gradually disappeared...it's funny how some people just fade away. Jak zopomniec, eh? ;-)

Regarding adminship, I haven't re-applied since my first attempt. I'm in no hurry; I'd rather be prepared than enter into adminship by the seat of pants, although it is becoming increasingly evident that I'll never be completely ready. I've actually received admin coaching, although my coach has either left or is on wikibreak since March 23. If he isn't back by the beginning of May, I may just go ahead with an RFA. And thank you for the compliment, by the way. Say, would you like to nominate me? User:Seivad has called dibs first, so I guess it would be more of a conom, but I would be honored all the same if you did when the time came. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 01:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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Mistake

I made a mistake in coding. I did not replace the example. I apologize and will pay more attention in the future. Thank you for all you are doing. Best regards, Navou ^banter 22:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

My name

If you must edit the WikiDefcon (I simply changed another user's addition), do not do so under my name. Sigh your own name with the signature button. --Defender 911 00:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk archives and name changes

Hello, Miza13. Your bot recently started archiving my talk page, but I have since renamed myself from PullToOpen to Sean William. Will the bot still archive my talk page to the now-deleted User talk:PullToOpen/Archive 2, or does the target have to be changed manually? (And if so, can you please do it?) Thanks, // Sean William 02:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Done. :-) —Миша13 07:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's nifty :). Thank you. // Sean William 11:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Capncrackonfascistwheels

Isn't there a long-time sockpuppet user who used a naming scheme like this? All of his names had 'on wheels' at the end. Unfortunately, that's all I can remember... HalfShadow

Correct. It's Willy on Wheels (or one of his many immitators) that's on your mind. Миша13 22:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Bot source

Hi, I am interested in having MiszaBot (archiver) for my own wiki, so is the source/binaries available? ffm ✎talk 00:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Not yet. But I'm planning to commit it to the pywikipedia tree once I clean up the code a bit. Миша13 06:57, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:Message

I'm not sure if you missed it, but I responded to your message on the same thread a further up on this page under the same thread. I guess the signpost sort of blocked it out. Cheers, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 00:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

protection tag

User:MiszaBot/config has a {{protected2}} tag, which is deprecated. Would you mind replacing it with a more appropriate tag? I don't want to break anything, so I didn't change it myself. CMummert · talk 14:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:Chatter etc.

Thank you! I'll let you know when we should start, probably 10 days from now. I'll notify Seivad too. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 19:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Miszabot I

Obviously I did something wrong with trying to get Miszabot I to stop archiving Talk:Barack Obama to a full archive. Since I added the config information to the talk page to automatically shift to the next archive if the current archive is full[9] Miszabot I has been copying one section to the full archive and then the remaining sections to the new archive.

• April 16 archiving 2 sections removed from Talk:Barack Obama.
• April 16 archiving 1 section to Archive 7.
• April 16 archiving 1 section to Archive 8.
• April 18 archiving 3 sections removed from current talk page.
• April 18 archiving 1 section to Archive 7.
• April 18 archiving 2 sections to Archive 8.

What did I do wrong? Thanks! --Bobblehead 21:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

My guess is you messed up badly here, by introducing a second template to the page (skim through the code after your edit) which confused the bot badly (it used the first one to read config, but apparently only updated the second). I have fixed it and it should be fine now (you may toss around the erroneuosly archived threads, if you care). Миша13 21:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I knew I screwed up somewhere. I was looking for the config template near the "this page is archived by Miszabot I" template and totally missed the config up at the top. Go me! thanks for fixing my mess up. --Bobblehead 21:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk page management :D

Thanks for looking after my talk page for me! —Sean Whitton / 08:25, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Question on Watchlist sorter.

Hello.

I have installed the Watchlist sorter tool using monobook.js. Could you please explain how to use it? How is it different from the drop-down menu present on the watchlist? --Aarktica 19:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Quite different - while the dropdown hides all namespaces except the one you choose, this thing groups edits by namespace and keeps all visible. If you don't see any difference on your watchlist then perhaps you don't have enough items? Миша13 19:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

There currently six items on the watchlist; is there a minimum number of edits required to notice the tool's benefits? --Aarktica 19:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

At a few from different namespaces (article, wikipedia, user talk). Here's how it looks like on a quite big watchlist: [10] Миша13 19:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the illustration; that was very helpful. A picture is indeed worth a thousand words. Including that picture on the Scripts page might go a long way to answering questions from newbies. Cheers. --Aarktica 20:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Filtering scripts

I have another related question.

Recently, I have been scanning WP:AFD pages for outdated and unclosed discussions. Seeing that these are few and far between, it is rather difficult wading through the volumes of closed discussions. In other words, this is a "needle in the haystack" issue.

Do you know of any tools available to filter out closed AfD discussions, which would make it easier to see which ones are open? --Aarktica 16:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

No, I haven't seem any tool of this sort. Perhaps there's way for invention here for people with abundant amounts of free time (don't look at me ;-) ). Миша13 17:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

It looks like it might not be necessary after all; I just noticed that links to open AfDs which are five or six days old are provided on the AfD page. Cheers. --Aarktica 18:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Able to not do unreplied?

Does you bot have a setting on whether or not to archive unreplied comments? --TeckWiz is now R ^ParlateContribs_@(Lets go Yankees!) 19:23, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

No, and I have no idea whatsoever how to detect whether a thread has been replied to or not. Миша13 19:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

WerdnaBot used to base it on 2 signatures. Why not ask the user to include their raw signature into the template and checking each section to see if that sig appears. Also, why not skip SuggestBot recommendations, and Signpost newsletters during archiving (i.e. removal), as they aren't exactly talk items. --NigelJ ^{talk SIMPLE} 22:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Not as easy as it sounds. Some users change their signatures like crazy and would have to keep the config in sync with the current one - in case they forgot, they would most likely have stormed my talk pase shouting "OMGWHYDOESNTITWORKITSB0RKENBLOCKIT!" and whatnot. Second, I treat SuggestBot and Signpost just like any other item, so it's more a matter of preference (would you like them to linger forever on your talkpage?). Миша13 09:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually sig tracking should be much easier with a well designed regex... basically all your looking for is "link to subjects userpage/user talkpage + ??:??, ?? (March|April|May...) ???? (UTC)", as for SuggestBot I was thinking discard, of course, with config option to enable/disable

An afterthought (just before hitting Save), another idea is adding <!--ARCHIVE--> at the end of a section, then base on standard time for sections marked for archive, and standard time + 2 months or something for sections not marked (for Wikibreaks etc). --NigelJ ^{talk SIMPLE} 10:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Jeffrey Newman

You have blocked my page, or one associated. Please take a look. Like User:Mstrassburg I am looking for help just to do some serious work. Please take appropriate action, for both of us. Thank you. 85.210.255.81 02:28, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand what are you talking about. Which page exactly is "blocked" (or did you mean "protected")? Миша13 09:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

85.210.255.81 seems to be unable to log in, and so cannot use the account User:Jeffrey Newman, which is apparently his – Gurch 20:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Gurch. Please can you help, one of you. Thank you. I have little w/p ability or understanding - but may be able to contribute some content.User:Jeffrey Newman I'd be happy to 'drop' the IP number, and just be 'me' but, at least, this is a start. Apparently, I need the help of a developer. Are you able to contact one, please? Thank you. 85.210.255.81 05:11, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I must admit I'm having some trouble understanding you. If you want to log in and contribute using the name "Jeffrey Newman" just visit the link Special:Userlogin (it's also located in the upper right corner as "log in/create account") and type in your username and password. If you have forgotten your password, there's a link to a reminder on that page (if you have provided an email while registering). Миша13 07:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

He appears to have forgotten his password, and didn't provide an e-mail address when he registered, so cannot obtain a password reminder. Unfortunately, he seems to be taking this personally, and seems to think we intentionally 'locked him out' of his account and can somehow fix it – Gurch 09:35, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

In that case, I'm afraid the answer is no, we cannot retrieve a user's password nor change it (nor is it malicious intent by anyone). Possibly only a developer could, but I haven't heard that happen, ever. It's simple - the password is supposed to verify that the user is who he claims to be - if anyone could request a new password for anyone, that wouldn't be much of a security. I suggest creating a new account and setting an email for it, so that a password reminder can be sent. Миша13 12:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

You forgot Poland

Congratulations on joining the You forgot Poland effort! You rule :D ~ Giggy! ^Talk _Contribs 00:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Status Script

Hello, I was looking over your status changing script and was wondering if you could get it to work with my templates. The two pages are at User:Extranet/Status and User:Extranet/Status2. The first page is the main status one, where the template that is in it ({{User:Extranet/Status2|STATUS}}) needs to be changed from "STATUS" to either "online", "busy", "away" or "offline" to make it work. The second page is the code one, where the code is available here to view. If you could possibly code a monobook.js file to fit it, it would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Extranet ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 01:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, your templates are set up correctly. All you need to do is edit your monobook and add the function from User:Misza13/Scripts/Status switcher (the one that starts at // STATUS CHANGER) (can be put anywhere, for example at the end of your monobook). Afterwards, you probably need to purge your browser's cache. Миша13 07:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks like its working fine, I just had to add the extras to the monobook script and it looks great! Extranet ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 08:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Oompapa light express

TellyAddict's comment at AIV was cryptic to say the least. He said this user was a sock of "you know who" but I don't know who and there's no contributions to check. You gave him a usernameblock while I don't see anything particularly wrong with the name. Can you fill me in on the specifics behind the block? - Mgm|^(talk) 09:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

As the userpage now says, it's a sockpuppet of User:Mr oompapa, a banned user. Миша13 11:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

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Template:RfA

Thank you for protecting that, although admittedly "my" version was protected (although that's the version that's been around for years), I like to think that even if you'd protected "the wrong version" I'd still be saying you made a great call. I suggest leaving it protected for at least a day, not just a few hours as it was last night. --W.marsh 18:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

My understanding of m:wrong version is that my protection merely intends to stop an edit war - I recuse myself from endorsing any particular version (like I would having reverted as well). I am ready to force the protection until the dispute is resolved somehow (and that there are several POVs on this, that's for sure, hence, some compromise has to be arranged). Миша13 18:11, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree totally, I just didn't want to sound like I was thanking you just for protecting the "right" version, but for stopping the harmful edit war. --W.marsh 18:18, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

To be equaly frank, I have not seen your revert at the point of writing my protection summary, only afterwards. But then again, it didn't matter to me which version was protected (unless it was a vandalised one. ;-) Cheers! Миша13 18:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

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On Talk:Seung-Hui Cho , your bot hasnt archived anything in a good while , i changed 20h to 1d to see if that helps as it work on a 2d config before (Gnevin 08:01, 24 April 2007 (UTC))

Done. I was aware of that and have been so far ignoring it on purpose, waiting for the article's title to stabilize. Миша13 09:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok thanks , keep up the great work(Gnevin 10:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC))

Still Archiving?

Hey, just out of curiosity - are you still archiving Wikipedia:Requested templates/Uncategorized? It seems like nothing has been in a while - but at the same time, it could be that just the threads there are excessively long.danielfolsom© 15:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Should be fine. At this moment I can't see any threads falling outside the 15-day treshold (all thread dates are 10 April or further), so yes - all discussions seem to take long time to end. Миша13 15:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear Misza! :)

Dear Misza, it's so good to see you again! :) Your warm words came as a beautiful surprise, and it's wonderful to see friendly faces like you after so long. How's life been treating you since we last saw each other? I pray you're doing fine, and that your day is as happy as mine was, thanks to you. Come and visit me anytime, please, and tell me how you're doing, k? I'll be waiting for you :) Hugs! Phaedriel - 23:00, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for reverting that edit to my talk page and blocking that user. It seems I was on the only contribution from that use. Was I singled out? —mako (talk•contribs) 18:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Actually it was one out of a whole series of accounts exhibiting the same vandalistic pattern (attacking user talk pages). Миша13 18:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi again

Hello Misha, I just wanted to let you know that I've set back my date for my RFA at the request of my coach. It'll probably be another few weeks. I hope this doesn't complicate things (or at least not on the same level as DEFCON :-P). Are you still up for being the co-nom? The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me)

Heh, no big deal, but we certainly could use a new admin (we need them in truckloads :-P ). And yes, I will still gladly participate in the nomination. Миша13 19:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for being flexible :-) The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 21:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Help with archive setup

Hi Misza, I'm attempting to implement your archive bot for my user talk page but seem to have something set up wrong. I'd like the archive files/list do be stored and displayed similar to the format on your talk page. The text/link 'Any sections older than 10 days are automatically archived here' links to User talk:Вasil/Archive where I have to manuall create links. It appears the links are auto-generated on your page. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Вasil | talk 01:20, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

It's not. :) Like you, I also have an archive map that I have update manually. I think Werdnabot (now known as Shadowbot3) used to have this ability, but I haven't looked through its code to incorporate that too. Миша13 08:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, but how do you get the archive map to display on your talk page? I don't see any calls or parameters on that page. Thanks, Вasil | talk 17:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, there is {{User:Misza13/Talk Header}} on top of this page. If you visit User:Misza13/Talk Header, you should find {{User:Misza13/Archive Map|width=250px}} hidden there (close to the end of the page). Миша13 18:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Cleverly hidden! With your permission, I might emulate some of this. Вasil | talk 20:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead. My contributions are licensed as {{TextLicenseFreeUse}} (free use), so you may copy without restrictions. ;-) Миша13 20:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Man In A Suit Productions (talk · contribs)

Is there a reason you decided to close the RFCN discussion without giving it even a chance? I admit that RFCN seems like a bad idea - but this was absolutely the correct place to bring this. There was no reason for you to close the discussion without giving it a proper chance just because you dislike RFCN. 64.178.96.168 16:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I have made my self clear in the closing summary. For your reference:

wrong forum to deal with this user - either follow instructions regarding spam or conflicts of interests.

If you don't understand the merits, please follow the links cited. (Also, please consider approaching the user directly instead of "plotting behind their back" (in a metaphorical sense) and hoping for an admin to do the "dirty work" (ditto)). Миша13 17:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I haven't done any "plotting" - I followed procedure completely, except that I forgot to notify the user. Look, it was a genuine mistake, and your attitude of assuming bad faith on my part is quite off-putting. And, after reading those links you provided, I see nothing to help me with a conflict of interest/spam username. 64.178.96.168 17:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

The claim you made when putting the username up for discussion was "spam username". If a user is promoting a company/website/whatever that matches their username, it is a conflict of interest and should be solved by communicating with the user directly rather than using other forums (especially since the user didn't seem persistent in their behavior - why not give the user a chance of getting a grasp on a policy instead of ruling him out, slamming a block and driving off a possibly good contributor?). Миша13 18:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

That is a valid argument. You are correct. However, to be sure, aren't there procedures for placing a block on a username which clearly breaks the rules, and having that person change their username afterward? I believe there are. 64.178.96.168 22:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

There is. One of the instructions placed on {{UsernameBlocked}} notes the existence of a special {{unblock-un}} template used for requesting an unblock with the intent of changing username. In practice however, bureaucrats often reject such requests, because if a user has no other edits than requesting the unblock, it is way easier to simply create a new account. Миша13 10:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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RCFN closure

Hi. I'm bothered by your closure of the Bastard Soap RCFN. I hope you don't mind if I question your rationale - don't worry, I'll stay calm! :-) You cite two reasons. Taking them in reverse order, you cite that he's not been disruptive. That's true, but it's not a valid rationale. An offensive username is disruptive on its own. We'd disallow User:Ikilllesbiansandfagsonsight regardless of quality of contributions. We're not talking about a block, but whether we insist on a name change. The question here is whether it's offensive. Which brings us to the other rationale you provided; the disambig issue that bastard can mean more than one thing. True. However, in the diff I provided the user himself clearly explained his meaning. And, more to the point, the vast majority of users seeing the word are undoubtedly going to be clear which meaning is intended. The question, which you've not addressed, is whether that meaning is offensive. Look forward to hearing from you. Cheers, --Dweller 18:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

It's a pretty simple case for me. The diff indeed explains the intentions clearly - it's about a "soap with an unstable family history" - a clearly silly username and by no means offensive. And again, even the first meaning of bastard is not offensive ("an illegitimate person"). So, unless soap has a hidden reference I don't get, the username is fine. Those somehow offended may actually discuss with the user directly and ask for a username change, but Bastard Soap should by no means feel obliged to do so. Миша13 18:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

censorship

Hey Misza13,

you seem like a smart person, why are you helping wikipedia to censor? --MarSch 10:23, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not about censorship but legal status of Wikipedia. As far as I understand it, this "secret" key allows for an illegal decryption of copyrighted videos - I don't want Wikipedia to have any legal troubles beause of this (it's probably too late anyway). Have a look at the top of any page - it's "free encyclopedia", but that doesn't mean an "illegal" one. Миша13 14:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

So then the censorship Google does in China is not objectionable either? Or the censorship that China itself does. Same thing apart from scale/severity. --MarSch 18:23, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the bot edit!

was starting to tear my hair out working out how to get it to work, I is liek a noob on teh interwebs (lol). When will it archive the page?--Speed Air Man 14:48, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I was just looking through logs of today's execution and noticed the error (which reminds me to fix the bot so that it doesn't panic on underscores in templates), so just routinely fixed it. Everything else looks fine, so it should visit you about this hour tommorow. Cheers! Миша13 14:53, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Source code for bot

Hello, Misza13. Would you be opposed to letting me view the source code of MiszaBot III (or any other version for that matter)? *Cremepuff222* 22:35, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

The code is to be released into the pywikipedia tree soonish, for everyone to view & use. (And yeah, I know I've been promising this for weeks now...) Миша13 22:37, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay dokay. Could you let me know when you do? Thanks! *Cremepuff222* 22:40, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Where can I find the source code for other bots? *Cremepuff222* 00:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Which other bots do you mean? The numbered ones (MiszaBot I, II and III) are running the same archiving code, just in different namespaces. The main one (MiszaBot (talk · contribs)) only updates some category stats in it's own space and WdefconBot (talk · contribs)'s source is available on it's page. Миша13 10:48, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Username blocks

Hello, firstly I'd just like to thank you ever so much for your hard work catching violatons of the username policy via Special:Log/newusers however I would kindly ask you if you could add {{UsernameBlocked}} onto their talk page and then its easier for non-admin patrollers to see if they have been blocked or not rather than going in their contribs and block log then reporting to WP:UAA if appropriate, thank you and again excellent work! Happy editing. The Sunshine Man 10:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not entirely convinced of this idea. I get your point, but at the same time the template categorizes the page in question in Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages, a category that's supposed to be (and was!) periodically cleaned up (and that either means an increased workload for admins or we hire an adminbot). And the reason for having these pages deleted/redlinked is the following: Google does not index pages that do not exist. Wikipedia has a PageRank and we'd risk some insulting usernames to show up in searches if the pages has any content. Миша13 10:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see! Thanks for your time and happy editing! The Sunshine Man 13:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, as WP:UAA is managed by a Bot- all that happens if usernames are reported that have previously been blocked is that the helper Bot removes them... So feel free to err on the side of reporting to UAA. Its far less work to have too many reports than to clear out more temporary pages. WjBscribe 14:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that was basically one thing I wasn't sure of - what happens is a user is reported after being blocked. But in this case, all the more reason to leave the pages red. Thanks. Миша13 14:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

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RFA and nom

Hey, we're going for the RFA now. I've already notified User:Seivad, and my admin coach User:Shyam is going to do a nom too. I'll let you know know when Seivad has started it. Do you need any information/diffs/etc from me before doing the nom? The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 03:02, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I have the nom quite ready now by examining your most recent 500 contribs and the edit counter. Have quite a few diffs and links ready. If anything, I could use an example of a discussion where you encountered gross incivility or some other stress-causing behavior from other editors and how you reacted/handled the issue. Миша13 10:45, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Misza, please forgive me for the late response. Regarding disputes, I've been in less than half a dozen serious conflicts on wikipedia, which I guess is good in terms of civility, but bad in terms of RFA noms! I had two disputes with User:100110100, one regarding editing other users' comments and the other concerning the use of American English in the article International Phonetic Alphabet. The first disupte can be found here and the IPA one can be found here. The latter one resulted in me filing an RFC. I was also involved in a dispute concerning death and abortion in my early months on wiki, which can be found here. I also filed a WP:3O for a dispute in Cigarette a few months back. Feel free to use these as examples, I am also planning on using one or two of them in my answer to question 3. Also feel free to use any other contributions that I've made, for better or for worse :-) The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 20:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Update: Seivad is going making the RFA soon. Wait for a message from him. Thank you again for volunteering to do this for me. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 21:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Good. I have the (non-existent yet) page on watchlist, so should spot it right away. I must say this is one of the most prepared nominations I've ever seen. :-) Миша13 22:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

TOR proxies

Please do not "tweak" any proxy blocks to "soft-block" them. TOR proxies, like all proxies, are hard-blocked. Soft-blocking is the same as no blocking at all. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:33, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Seems our policy on allowing registered editing via Tor has changed dramatically today - I have reblocked that upon a request by a fellow editor on IRC. Миша13 19:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

No, the policy has always been quite clear: Wikipedia:No open proxies. Editing from open proxies is not permitted, TOR or otherwise. I know people keep complaining that they want TOR proxies "soft blocked", but that's worse than useless, as it gives the impression something has been done, when in reality nothing has. The deletions of the Main page over the past couple of days have been done through "soft blocked" TOR proxies. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

No, they were done through admin accounts with mouth-droppingly bad security. The main page would still have been deleted because the compromises didn't need TOR in any way, and in some cases, didn't even bother with using TOR! Fortunately, I have the luxury of using TOR out of a wealth of caution and so can disable it to tell you that the solution to recent events is to require non-halfassed passwords, and not hardblocking TOR exit nodes. --Gwern (contribs) 23:40 7 May 2007 (GMT)

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Deleted image

Hi there. I noticed you deleted my picture on my userpage. I don't have a problem with that (some may say that picture deserved to be removed for reasons other than copyright), but I'm having some trouble getting to grips with how to stop pictures I add being deleted. I have looked at the help but cannot see how to tag an image I have uploaded previously. Can you help? Thanks. Mthastings25 16:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

The image, Image:Image 007.jpg was deleted because it lacked any indication of copyright status (and stayed that way for a longer while), in the form of an appropriate template (see WP:TMIN) on it's image page. This is a free encyclopedia and images used should be free also (mind you: not free as in beer, but free as in freedom). If you have taken the photo yourself, it's best to tag it with some free license tag (pick it when uploading the image), like {{GFDL}} or whichever licensing you prefer. I can undelete the image if you wish, but there's also an issue of the image's name. It'd probably be best if you reuploaded it yourself and used a slightly more descriptive image name. If you have any further questions or need any help, don't hesitate to ask. Миша13 16:45, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

RfA

Ikiroid's administration request has now been started. I believe you have said you will co-nom. Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Ikiroid_2. Thanks, Seivad 17:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me - I have added my 2 cents (more like 100 dollars, actually - hope I didn't overdo with numbers). :-) Миша13 17:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Misza! Thanks for the awesome nom. I'm waiting for my admin coach Shyam to get back to me before I accept, but it should be up and going by today or at the latest tomorrow. Sorry about all of the posts and talk about this—I didn't want there to be any misunderstandings or multiple RFAs made! Anyway, stay tuned, and cheers, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 20:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Key messages

The key exchange is not the important part; for example, I can get your key off of most any key server. What we are trying to do is perform encrypted challenge-responses. Not as secure as eye-to-eye fingerprint exchange with government-issued ID's being checked, but the idea is to show (hopefully through more than one mode of communication) that the user behind the wiki-id is the same user behind the PGP-key. Once satisfied with the checking, we can sign your key, and if, G-d forbid, your account gets comprimised and hacked, once you recover, you have a pretty straightforward way of identifying yourself as Misza and not H4xxored, by using your key. -- Avi 21:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand the purpose (way of identifying oneself) - was just thinking what were you sending inside these messages. Some key fingerprints? "Hello" messages? Just wondering how to join in - link to my public key has available at the top of my talk page for months, but haven't had any use of it, except signing each other's keys with User:Where (verifying fingerprints via IRC /privmgs - I know it's pretty weak) for the fun of it. Миша13 21:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

OK

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-- Avi 21:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Replied, but not without troubles - kmail kept whining that the key I try to encrypt with is untrusted. Also, because gmail seems to be recognizing my other e-mail as spam, please check your spam box too. Миша13 22:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: User talk:Betacommand#Misidentified orphan

Image:Vastolorde-full.jpg is now linked to directly from Hollow (Bleach) through Image:Vastolorde.jpg's thumbnail description. The purpose the full image is to demonstrate the silhouette, while the purpose of the cropped version is to flow better as a thumbnail within the Hollow article.

While I was at it, I reduced the images in resolution and added fair-use templates. Everything should be fine now, though I'm thinking of reducing the cropped version in resolution further since it serves only as a thumbnail while the full version is used for full-views. Anyway, what's the template you place on images to say that they are not orphaned due to a direct link from mainspace? –Gunslinger47 08:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It seems a couple other editors are trying to make the full version fit as a thumbnail. They're making a bit of a mess, so I'll try to talk to them about it at Talk:Hollow (Bleach)#Vastolorde-full.jpg. Anyway, my question still stands. :D –Gunslinger47 08:19, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

If the image is used in mainspace, it suffices to simply remove the tag that says it's orphaned, place a fair use template and provide fair use rationale. Миша13 08:23, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

To clarify, does directly linking to images from mainspace count as the image being "used in mainspace"? –Gunslinger47 18:10, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Visit the image page. Check the "File links" section at the bottom. Are there any articles (not other images/templates/whatever) listed? If the answer is no (which it is when I'm writing this - only another image), then the image (being a fair use one) is orphaned. Миша13 18:14, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't appreciated your demeanor. The template I was asking you about at the outset of this conversation was {{notorphan}}. It appears that the wording for it was changed less than five days ago to clarify my misunderstanding. For discussion on the subject (ironically initiated by Betacommand), please see Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 May 6#Template:notorphan. –Gunslinger47 21:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

You asked me what template to use to mark an unorphaned image. Since I wasn't aware of {{not orphan}} (which I gather now a rather historic artifact), I have replied to my best knowledge (my first reply in this thread) and described what'd I do. You also asked me to clarify the term orphan, which I did as explicitly as I could in my second reply. If these answers you find unclear/unsatisfiable, I'm afraid I can't help you any further but to suggest a closer review of our non-free content policy. Regards, Миша13 21:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, sorry for the trouble. I wish WP:NONFREE was written more definitively at times. This is not the first time that I've stumbled over a rule written only on talk pages. ;_; –Gunslinger47 22:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

for running the bot, and for correcting my use of it. Tom Harrison ^Talk 01:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Recall request

Formerly titled "Username blocking bot?"

Just curious, but can you shed some light on this accusation? I'm going to guess that it's a disgruntled bad username you blocked, but if it's true, it would be good of you to 'come clean' about it. Cheers. -- nae'blis 13:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC) Since you've now confirmed it, the above is moot. Unfortunately, I will have to therefore request that you turn in your sysop bit, per the voluntary process you subscribed to. I find this to be a significant breach of the trust given to you, and would have preferred that you requested administrative rights for a bot separate from your own account, per policy and precedent. -- nae'blis 20:32, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Please do not to anything close to what Nae'blis is asking. – Steel 20:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

The witch hunt that has started right after I have confirmed to be operating an adminbot doesn't quite assure me that bots stand much of a chance on RfA at this moment. Depending on how this dispute resolves however (if, for example people realize that adminbots are needed), I might reconsider that. Also, use some care when comparing this situation to either Marudubshinki's or Betacommand's. My bots are designed with great care not to cause harm and a genuine aim to improve Wikipedia. Aside from vandals, noone has actually ever asked me to disable them due to some outrageous and repetetive errors, simply because there were none, or close to none (re: block of DennisGay). I've unfortunately become involved in this discussion at a quite late hour (just past midnight while I'm writing this), so I guess I'll have a good night's sleep now and see how matters evolve tomorrow. Rush is inadvisable - it's not like my bot is on a rampage or anything... Миша13 22:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed there is no rush and no great harm, which is why I did not block you for contravening policy. However I do not feel my opinion on this matter is an outlier, and have outlined what I personally would expect before I would support an adminbot. If I am the only one to hold this opinion, so be it, but I do not like this Wild West mentality toward our bot policies. I made this request before the bad block below was discovered (and started it before you confirmed it), for what it's worth. Sleep well; I'll check back here in the next day or two. -- nae'blis 22:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I would like to request that you keep your admin bit, and if the rules stop you from improving Wikipedia, please continue to ignore them. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 23:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I strongly support Misza continuing as an admin. We have a shortage of administrators (especially active administrators with a long history of good judgment). One mistaken block does not a bad sysop make. I would expect someone to show credible evidence that Misza's continued use of the tools is damaging to this project before seeing a request for recall. Not only has that not been provided, but I find the very thought absurd. WjBscribe 23:26, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

So that's why you are always first to username blocks :). I would definitely never ask you to take away your admin powers. As said above, we need active admins. I would suggest releasing your code to those who request it by e-mail if they're a trusted user, such as other admins. --TeckWiz is now R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's go Yankees!) 01:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

This is where irony kicks in. Even since I've been developing the bot, I figured it'd be much easier to sync my developer's board at home with toolserv where is runs by using Subversion. While at it, I also figured I might've as well put it in my public repository for everyone to reuse. Therefore, noone really knows how many such bots are running out there (with absolute certainty I know of one that forked and operated in the past). Миша13 12:24, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

User name blocks

I have questioned several of your recent user name blocks, and what seems to be your practice of blocking at sight with no notification other than the block log summary, at WP:AN#User name blocks. DES ^(talk) 21:20, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I beg to differ on the issue of issuing further notices to blocked users. When the block takes its effect, the user in question will see the {{UsernameBlocked}} template on his screen - and that provides quite a lot information already. I'm not convinced that further spamming is necessary. Миша13 21:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Correct me if I a wrong, doesn't that display only when a blocked user tries to edit, not when the user logs in? If so, won't the attempted edit result in an autoblock of the IP, which, if the IP is shared over a school or corporate proxy or the like, may cause additional colleteral damage, which a blocked user might choose to avoid if informed by a talk page msg as soon as s/he logs in? But my main point is that IMO a user name block ought to give more detailed explanation of why the user name is considered unaceptable, rather than a generic boilerplate msg. This may not be needed in the case of blatently offensive usernames such as "F-You" or "<name> is Satan", but a more marginal one such as "Time to Die" or "X is Gay" (at least where X is a generic first name, not an identifiable individual) could possibly profit from a more detailed explanation. If these truly are irredemable vandals, why worry about "spammig" them? If there is any chance thqt they are not, woudn't a more detailed talk page message have a chanec of eduacting them? Surely your bot (assuming that you continue to use a bot for this purpose, which is anothe issue) could select a template from a list based on which regex triggers the block, and subst that template onto the relevant user page. This would not be the same and a fully individual msg, but would be rathe better than the one-size-fits-all approach you are using now. DES ^(talk) 15:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

That surely is some coding I might add in the future (together with a more flexible system of autoblocks - thread above), but generally I aim at keeping out the most offensive cases - ones that don't deserve further explanations. One extra point to consider: Google indexes only those pages that exist and not the redlinked ones. Considering Wikipedia's high PageRank, we certainly wouldn't want pages like User talk:Jimbo Wales RAPES BABIES! (an actual blocked user) to show up in searches, now would we? [11] Миша13 16:20, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Block of DennisGay

I have unblocked this user per WP:AGF, as the name doesn't seem to be clearly offensive to me. It happens to contain "isGay", but not in a way that attacks anyone. Hope you don't mind, Kusma (talk) 21:06, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't, since I notice it's a very rare occurance of an username matching the "isgay$" regex, that's actually a valid username. I might've unblocked it myself when reviewing my blocks later. On a note related to running a block bot, I might've as well instinctively block such a username personally if I saw it when watching the feed. Миша13 21:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Could you consider disabling the autoblocker for username blocks? While I sometimes leave it on when I block clearly vandalistic usernames (as opposed to those that merely violate our arcane policy and need to choose another name), it is probably undesirable to have a bot autoblock many IPs (this opens up a DoS attack vector on shared IPs). Thank you, Kusma (talk) 15:59, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Some time ago, I wasn't setting autoblocks at all. Quite recently, I have written an extension that makes the bot set "angry" mode (with autoblocks) if it detects several bad usernames in a short timespan. Even more recently, there was a need to turn the bot to a permanent angry mode (due to Mr Oompapa's spree). Since it has calmed down now, I'm setting it back to "calm" again (with angry when triggered too much). A better solution would be to add the possibility of making some patterns default and some with an outright autoblock. But that's some extra coding I didn't have time for recently. But then again, I aim to only block the most offensive suernames... Миша13 16:13, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I didn't think ANY block was to be applied via a bot however. 206.248.190.148 13:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

That was ancient history. Various statistics show that workload per admin has at best doubled in the last year. This means that we either somehow get just as many new admins as we have (and do it right now) or we start delegating some work that doesn't require thinking (only following an algorithm) to bots. Миша13 15:45, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for fixing my stupid archiving mistake. Tim.bounceback^{(review me! | talk | contribs | ubxen)} 12:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Bot archiving

Hi. I noticed, that, when the bot archived my page, it placed {{talkarchive}} on my page. However, since I archive my pages to User:Tim.bounceback/Archives/<Month> <Year>, it links to User:Tim.bounceback/Archives for the "current talk page" link. However, the template {{archive}} allows me to specify a parameter of where to point the link to (which should be User_talk:Tim.bounceback). Can you add a parameter to the config template that will allow you to choose exactly what template and what parameters should be put on top of the archived page? Thanks! Tim.bounceback^{(review me! | talk | contribs | ubxen)} 15:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I have the exact same problem with my archives (furthermore, I prefer to use my entirely own template as a header). Yet, that's a feature I haven't had the time to code yet. Миша13 15:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm considering using my own too. But, either way, I still need to change it manually. Let me know when you've got this coded. Thanks! Tim.bounceback^{(review me! | talk | contribs | ubxen)} 15:59, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

A note

Just thought I'd tell you High's making these users to test his bot- it is not a spate of High-haters, thanks. GDonato (talk) 21:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

>:-( Thanks for letting me know - my bot gets angry (and starts setting autoblocks) if triggered too many times in a short timespan. I'll remove it from the blacklist then. On a side note, can't he use a testing wiki of some sort instead of polluting our logs? Миша13 21:58, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I was wrong, there was some confusion see User talk:HighInBC GDonato (talk) 22:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Date checking with archiving bot

It looks like there might have been some error in dating signatures a while back (March) so that sig's ended in "(UTC-8)" rather than "(UTC)". With this, the bot does not archive the comments. See, for example, [12], where there is a gap between March 7 and April 29. (I am not sure that this dating is actually the cause, just a hypothesis). —Centrx→talk • 18:56, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Quite right - no idea how it got there, but in that state the threads will not be archived - my bot expects timestamps in the standard HH:MM, DD Month YYYY (UTC) format and is as of yet quite inflexible on this (time handling is a pain). Миша13 19:27, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Your deletion of Image:Endnote WikiChem 1.png and Image:Endnote WikiChem 2.png

Would you please explain why you deleted these two images? They were performing an important function of notifying users on Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry what settings to use, and the desired output, for EndNote software. --Rifleman 82 06:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I fully understand. Being fair use, they can only be allowed in articles (no other namespace) and only with a good rationale for inclusion. I'm afraid any other use is a violation of copyright policy. Миша13 07:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia's Storage space

External storage space is free for Wikimedia. We have many terabytes of apache hard drive space that we have no other use for. -- Tim Starling from http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Reduce_size_of_the_database --Khunter 07:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the link. Can you also explain how is it relevant to me? Миша13 07:30, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Seems Khunter is spamming talk pages of people he considers to be "deletionists" with that link. --Stormie 09:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Luck'schina.jpg

I think this image may have been deleted in error, but I'm not able to check since I don't have The Tools, and thus can't look at the history for deleted pages. The uploader (User:Luck-one) had uploaded several photos that were his own work, but neglected to tag them with a license. When notified by OrphanBot, he added license info, but did not remove the tag. I have corrected his mistake on several other pages, and I wondered whether that might also be the case here when I spotted the bot-notice for this image on his talk page. If it's not too much trouble, would you mind having a look? -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 00:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Restored: Image:Luck'schina.jpg. Миша13 07:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks. I went ahead and left a note about the situation on the uploader's talk page; hopefully, he can add his license info to this one in the near term, like he did to the others. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 15:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:HB Superheroes

That's better? --Q Original 12:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Just don't start using it somewhere in userspace. Миша13 12:49, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Not working on my page

I added {{User:MiszaBot/config |algo = old(2d) |archive = User talk:Cyberoidx/May }} to my page, but its not archiving... Can you please check and tell me why CyberoidX 13:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

It archived half an hour before your above post. Миша13 13:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Undelete image

You deleted an image I donated to Wikipedia. The image was falsely marked by gnome bot as being an unfree image. User:Eagle_101 made sloppy software and as a result he is vandalizing many pictures in WIkipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Image:Wikipedia-share.png I made this image and I listed my inspirations out of respect to the community. I did not copy it. I copied parts of it. You marked it as an unfree unused image. It is however from the banners and buttons archive, which are intended to be used on ouside websites and are only 'in articles' in so far as they are in USER pages. Please restore it. Mrdthree 15:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

1. "Donated"?
2. It wasn't Gnome (Bot) (talk · contribs), but BetacommandBot (talk · contribs).
3. Wikipedia's logo is copyrighted and not avaliable under free license.
4. The image was licensed under fair use (per 2.) and not used in article space, therefore was deleted.
5. I'd appreciate if you didn't call fellow editors "vandals", especially if they're actually trying to repair something around here.

I can only undelete the image if is to be used in an article and good rationale can be provided. Миша13 15:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The point he is making is that if it had been marked {{CopyrightByWikimedia}} (like most of Wikipedia:Banners and buttons) rather than {{logo}} then people would have ignored the non-free use requirements. In the continued absense of any direct licensing/logo use policy from the Foundation (something that people have been requesting for >2 years), I personally feel that continuing to give special treatment to WMF is bad policy, and would favor removing all the banners from Wikipedia (perhaps placing them on Meta), but there is not really a consensus to do that. So the status quo has been to tolerate such buttons/banners when labeled {{CopyrightByWikimedia}}. Dragons flight 15:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

To change how banners and buttons are posted, start a discussion on the page. There are good reasons to restore the image: (1) THe banners and buttons page is an article. The image was included in the article. Therefore it was part of an article. The only other article these images can be included in is a USER page. I will add the code to my user page.(2) There is a bug in the BetacommandBot; it applies the same rules to banner advertisements that it applies to article images. However the two classes of images serve different purposes.Mrdthree 15:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

By donate I mean I made it. Mrdthree 15:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)