User talk:Misza13/Archives/2007/09

My user talk page won't archive

The bot has not touched it since August 19th. It's worked for months before. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

There is currently only one thread that qualifies for your old(30d) algorithm - the first Signpost, signed July 23rd. As a new feature, the bot has a minimum amount of 2 threads (by default) to archive in one run (to reduce page history pollution). It is adjustable using the minthreadstoarchive parameter (see User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo). Миша13 09:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Help

Hello. Great work on the bot. I've been trying to set it up at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR, however, I think I've done something wrong. Will you take a look? Thank you in advance, Navou ^banter 21:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

That's one issue that has been brought up already. ===Third level headers=== are still an issue - it's unlikely the bot will ever archive anything there (until I write some code to handle this - read: not anytime soon), as it basically treats the entire "Violations" section as one big thread. Миша13 22:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response. I'll work it another way. Cheers! Navou ^banter 23:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Quick question

Poor Ariel is so confused, lol. I can't figure out why for the past few days the bot continues to put threads into archives 1 and 2, even when the day previous, it said they were full. It is ending up dumping threads from late Aug/Sept into the archive from July, and I tried to fix them but hooo boy did I get confused, lol. (I couldn't figure out what I'd removed and where to put it, sheesh what a mess! lol.) I have the archive size set at: |maxarchivesize = 100K and both my User talk:ArielGold/Archive 1 and User talk:ArielGold/Archive 2 have been over 100k, but MiszaBot still adds a thread to them each morning. Is there a way I can "close" an archive, even if it isn't full, and get the bot to start putting all threads into a new archive? Sorry if this is a stupid question, lol. This whole archiving thing is playing havoc with my Type A personality. First I tried to do it myself, organizing things by date as much as I could, but things got so messed up, that I figured a bot could do it better, lol. But now I have stuff from September in my July archives, . I know I should probably just not care, right? lol. Anyway, is there any way to tell the bot an archive is "off limits"? lol. ^Ariel♥Gold 16:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

*scratches head* Very odd indeed. In this edit, it should also update the counter = 1 to counter = 3 which you can always do manually to force it to move to another archive. (Same thing happened here, here, here and here, which is most odd as it seems to update counters properly on other pages...) I guess the bot needs some spanking... Миша13 17:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

ROFL Omg you mean it isn't something I did wrong? All this time I was checking, double checking the bot code every single day after the bot kept putting stuff into archives, thinking I just simply must be doing something wrong, and not wanting to bother you, but yeah, it has been a few days now, lol. I will update the counter manually, and we can see what happens tomorrow, sound good? (Omg I'm so glad it wasn't something I did lol) I guess I will just live with the semi-confused state of the archives, because I seriously screwed them up trying to "fix" things, lol. Thanks for answering so speeeedy fast! ^Ariel♥Gold 17:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

LOL, seems it was me after all (it's always the developer's fault ). One culprit regex was causing it not to update the configuration when it contained a "}" (like the archiveheader thingie did). Should be fixed now. Миша13 17:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll never understand how you über programmers can read that stuff, to me it is like a big jumble of... well, like looking into a bowl of Alpha-Bits, lol. How come it updated others' counts, but not mine? That has to have something to do with the way I put my code into the talk page, yes? (I've gone ahead and updated it to say header=3, so it should work, we'll see if it updates to 4.) lol, I swear, I read all the archive threads about MiszaBot, I looked about 30 people's talk page headers to see what code they used, compared it to mine, and boy was I confuzzled. Oh well, I guess at the least we identified a potential "bug", so that's good right? lol. Thanks for the quick answer! ^Ariel♥Gold 17:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Ohhhh I think I understand it now, you mean that I used the {{atn}} archive navigator, instead of the normal one most people use? ^Ariel♥Gold 17:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Precisely. And when I first introduced the archiveheader parameter, I missed this one place in the code where the bot could get confused. Frankly I wonder how many other pages use a custom template, but their owners haven't yet noticed the bot is going b0rk3d around them, lol. Миша13 17:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Well golly gee willakers, I'm glad I could help you figure it out! (Even if I had no clue lol.) I honestly haven't seen any pages that use that header I use, I found it just by doing some searching of my own, not from seeing it on someone's page, so hey, maybe not very many people use it. (I just liked the colors better, more "girlie" lol) Thanks again for helping figure this out! ^Ariel♥Gold 17:48, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Likewise thanks for spotting it. :-P Миша13 17:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot edit summaries

The bot is leaving edit summaries in some other language. Just thought I'd let you know. —METS501 (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It's Polish, it's eerily similar to Russian (native language for me), but it uses Cyrillic. Maxim_(talk) 00:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot I

Your bot has switched to Polish edit summaries. You might want to fix that. Maxim_(talk) 00:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Tak, i Bot II. Nie mowie po polsku. Czy panbot mowi po angielsku? (All I remember from Polish excursion 12 years ago.) -- But|seriously|folks  06:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

MiszabotII

Hello there. MiszabotII is no longer speaking english. Thought you should know. here is an example. Someguy1221 06:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply

Yeah, I noticed that yesterday on commons. I have commited a fix, but (as usual) have forgotten to run a svn update on the toolserver. Will do that as soon as I return home and have shell access back (will also put the updater into cron). Миша13 07:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Image of Arattupuzha vel panicker

This img(Image:Arattupuzha vel panicker.JPG) has been deleted by the user Misza13 on August 19, 2007 as it was obtained from some websites by someone. Now, i have obtained a Hardcopy of this photo from Arattapuzha Velayudha Panicker Research Foundation and Cultural Centre at Mangalam, Alappuzha, Kerala, India. I can now digitize and put it in wikipedia. But problem here is it looks exactly same as the snap deleted by the user. please advice Daya Anjali (talk / contribs) 04:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot notices

Do you think it would be possible to add a 'notice' functionality to the bot, or have another bot work with it to give out notices? Mainly, leave a note on people's talk pages whenever the bot is updated, such as the minimum threads thing, or the bot switches to a new archive (Archive 4 -> 5, and such), for that user only of course. This would be insanely useful, I wouldn't have to have a redlink on my userpage just so I know when to add another archive link to my archive box --lucid 06:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, a sound idea (and you suggested it already :-P). I'll get to it as soon as I have some time. Миша13 09:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry then. Short attention span :p Maybe in the mean time it would be a good idea to ask the signpost to distribute news of such updates in their bots/admin section? Wouldn't reach everyone, but it would at least be easier when people go 'hey wtf' on IRC to say "read signpost nub" --lucid 14:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot edit

Sorry, MiszaBot III, if this is the wrong place to post, or if this is of no interest! Re- (cur) (last) 06:40, 2 September 2007 MiszaBot II (Talk | contribs) m (296,080 bytes) (Archiving 2 thread(s) (older than 14d) to Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons/Archive_10.) (undo) -- That talkpage is still too long, though I myself cannot update a BOT-script. Not the BOT's fault, though, just FYI. or, other- thanks. NBG Newbyguesses - Talk 08:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

You can shorten the archiving threshold. From the summary, I can see it's set to algo = old(14d) - you could try to set it to 10 or even 7 days, but beware of angry masses that will whine about messages getting archived prematurely. Best discuss that on the affected page first. Миша13 09:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot3

Hello, I saw your MiszaBot3 and I thought it would be neat to get it to arcive my talk page; so I added the template on my talk page, but it doesn't seem to work. I'm wondering if I did anything wrong on the config template or is there something wrong with MiszaBot3.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 18:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Archiving your talk page would violate the default minthreadsleft treshold of 5 (there are only 5 threads now). You have lowered that to 2, but only after today's run (the bot runs only once every day) - please wait until tomorrow. Миша13 18:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh I see, Thanks.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 18:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

IRC Miszabot

I noticed MiszaBot has stopped responding to commands to add users to the blacklist on #vandalism-en-wp. It ignored requests by both ClueBot and I.--Max Talk (+) 18:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:CDEGlogo.svg

Please be so kind as to restore this image. It was only unused because its use had been inappropriately deleted. Thank you. --John Navas 05:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Also

• Image:CDEGlogo.svg
• Image:CDETlogo.svg
• Image:CDGTlogo.svg
• Image:CDHCR.svg
• Image:CDMIlogo.svg
• Image:CDMIlogo.svg
• Image:CDMSRlogo.svg
• Image:CDRAlogo.svg
• Image:CDRRWlogo.svg

And any others of these I might have missed. Thank you.

--John Navas 05:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Few issues:

1. When linking to images, prepend a colon before the "Image:" part. The way you did this, you included the images for display on my talk page.
2. Please specify an article where these images were used in.
3. Regarding "any others" - you have to be specific - I delete hundreds of images every day and can't possibly know all of them.

Миша13 08:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Responses:

1. Sorry. Archane Wiki syntax doesn't come all that easily to those of us that don't have the time to become expert at it.
2. The article is Compact disc and the section is Logos.
3. I likewise can't possibly know how many of my images you might have nuked.
   That said, my immediate concern is all the images missing from the Compact disc: Logos section.

Thank you. --John Navas 22:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

All restored. Please let me know should you find any more "missing" images. Миша13 22:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --John Navas 14:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Poor MiszaBot

I don't think the "fix" worked, lol. Poor lil MiszaBot is still not updating the counter, ([1] yesterday, [2] and today,) even when archive is full. (Yesterday, [3] and today: [4].) I hope I don't have to go back to the ugly brown archive header, lol. I like the pretty blue one better! I'll manually update the archive number again. lol. ^Ariel♥Gold 16:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Poor the bot is indeed. For having such a dumb master. It is me to blame, of course, as I have not read the regex module's documentation thoroughly and have passed some arguments where they meant something else (without going into technical depths this time). Anyway, should be really fixed now. Thanks, Миша13 17:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

ROFL I think that you just simply must blame the bot for having a mind of his own! ~*Giggle*~ Actually I think you both are wonderful, and even if I had to update my archive number every day I'd still do it because lordy knows, I made a mess of it trying to archive things myself, lol. But I'm glad that at the least, you were able to figure out why our little MiszaBot's mind was "wandering". As always, you have my deepest thanks. ^Ariel♥Gold 17:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing Talk:List of characters in Camp Lazlo

Copy-n-paste is prone to error :-/ Thanks for fixing it! Yngvarr 00:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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MiszaBot III

Hi! I've been using MiszaBot III for a while now. But, recently, it won't archive my talk page. It stopped after this happened: It archived a couple of threads, and then found the archive was full as I had set it up. But, it didn't remove the threads from my talk page. Now, it hasn't archived for weeks, but, just today, it archived with this: Archiving 2 thread(s) (older than 24h) to /dev/null when my talk page is set up to archive 14d old threads. Also, it didn't create a new archive, or archive to the old one. Here is how the template currently looks on my talk page:

{{User:MiszaBot/config|maxarchivesize = 48K|counter = 2|algo = old(14d)|archive = User talk:FastLizard4/Archive %(counter)d}}

Oh, and when it filled the first archive,it didn't advance the counter either, I manually advanced it to 2. Thanks,
--FastLizard4 (Talk•Links•Sign) 23:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and becuase I have to go to school, if you could fix this for me, that would be great! If you edit my talk page, you will notice near the top "<!-- Begin archive function -->. That is where the MiszaBot III configuration template is. Thanks,

--FastLizard4 (Talk•Links•Sign) 06:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

OK. Thanks a million.

--FastLizard4 (Talk•Links•Sign) 01:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot III time

Just wondering what time MiszaBotIII runs every day? Thanks. --דניאל - Dantheman531 03:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It is scheduled to start on 12:35 UTC and runs for over an hour. Миша13 22:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Your recent username block

There was exactly one edit between the creation of that account and your block of that account. There's something wrong with that. Nice job, speedy fingers ;) Gscshoyru 22:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Behold the might of zomgadminbots! Миша13 22:27, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (blocked indef by Misza13 Wheee! Speedy McMisza! ^Ariel♥Gold 22:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a question? How is it possible for you to block an inappropriate username extremely fast? Someone creates an inappropriate username (like Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee), and you block it within one second after the account creation. How do you do that? NHRHS2010 ^Talk 23:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

/me invites everyone to hover over the gear icon on the top right of this page :]. Seriously, this has been public for ever, and it works great. --(Review Me) R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Unsigned comments

Greetings. I really like your archiving bot, and I am wondering if it is possible for it to detect time stamps created by unsigned templates. Thanks. – Basar (talk · contribs) 23:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

{{unsigned}} does not generate a timestamp on its own. It uses the one that you provide as a parameter. Hence, if you do not provide a valid one (for example, by omitting the timezone part), if will not recognize it. Миша13 22:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks. – Basar (talk · contribs) 00:40, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

There is a problem with the timestamps left by SineBot and the like. Could you have MiszaBot ignore any trailing </small><!-- and comments --> when looking for timestamps, please? ←Ben^B4 10:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

It does ignore them. It only looks for continuous timestamps. Миша13 11:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Two comments maybe? I had to do this, for a SineBot sig ending "{{#if:16:22:09, August 19, 2007 (UTC)| 16:22:09, August 19, 2007 (UTC)}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->". ←Ben^B4 14:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

"16:22:09, August 19, 2007 (UTC)" is a non-standard (as in ~~~~-generated) timestamp, because:

1. there should be no seconds (who cares about them anyway?),
2. day should go before the month,
3. there should be no comma before the year.

My bot is already quite liberal in the amount of creative variations, but there are some limits. My opinion is that SineBot should instead be tweaked to use a standard timestamp. Миша13 15:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree and I will ask so. ←Ben^B4 15:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Apparently SineBot is doing the right thing now, so, no worries. Thanks for your quick response and clear explanation. ←Ben^B4 15:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Image deletion

Since when is it not allowed to use Wikipedia screenshots for support questions? The only reason it was "unused" is because someone delinked it as a supposed copyright violation. (I'll check back here for your response). - 131.211.210.17 10:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a specific image in mind? I delete hundreds of them every day. And by the way, screenshots tend to contain parts of copyrighted content and thus cannot be always free. Миша13 12:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Javascript/Template question

I thought you might have an answer to this. Is there a template that I can use that when placed on a page converts into the articles name? for instance if I put {{Page}}(an example) it would automatically convert into the name of the article which it's placed on? Does such a thing exist? If not, What javascript would be required to make such a script possible to create such a template? Wikidudeman ^(talk) 19:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

{{PAGENAME}} = Misza13/Archives/2007/09

{{NAMESPACE}} = User talk

etc... and many more - see WP:MAGIC. Миша13 19:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for that. I've been asking all around for it. Do you know if we can use {{PAGENAME}} in place of the actual text of the page? Wikidudeman ^(talk) 20:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I have, in the example above. It can also used in templates such as {{welcome}} so that it expands into the username of the user being welcomed. Миша13 20:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:RWlogo.jpg

Please restore Image:RWlogo.jpg. It was deleted as orphaned after the page on which it was used, Raymond Weil, had been replaced by an advertisement. The original article has been restored, but the image remains deleted. DHowell 03:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. Please provide a fair use rationale for the image. Миша13 07:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Question

Sometimes, when I look at special:Log and see that you block an inappropriate username within 1 second after creation. How do you do that? (I am not an administrator, but I am just wondering) NHRHS2010 ^Talk 00:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe the fact that I operate an adminbot has been long established by now. Миша13 07:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

So your bot is the one blocking the inappropriate username? NHRHS2010 ^Talk 19:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, just like Curpsbot did before it was discontinued. Since the introduction of Mediawiki:Usernameblacklist it has much less to do, however. Миша13 19:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

However, the block log shows that YOU are the one who blocked the inappropriate username. NHRHS2010 ^Talk 22:19, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Of course it does - what else could be expected? I have only one (main) account with admin abilities and the bot runs on it. Миша13 22:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Suspected Sockpuppets

You just blocked User:Can't sleep, Ryulong will eat the clown. Take a look at this. Contact User talk:Eliz81. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 23:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but I fail to see how this is of interest to me (and why should I contact someone) - this wasn't even me but rather my bot - and the block was simply yet another user... —Миша13 10:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Main page archives

Hello,

Since September 1,^[5] your bot MiszaBot I (talk · contribs) is incorrectly archiving main page threads to Talk:Main Page/Archive 1066, Talk:Main Page/Archive 1067, and Talk:Main Page/Archive 1068, rather than to Talk:Main Page/Archive 106 and so on. Could you please fix it? Thanks, Korg (talk) 01:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

It was broken by an anon. I'll move the archives accordingly. Миша13 10:15, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, it was that! Thanks for fixing it. Korg (talk) 15:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

User's dubious copyright claims

Hi, Misza13. User:Soundstormaj's uploaded images include movie posters, album covers and publicity shots, and all bear the same dubious licensing tag claiming the editor is the copyright holder. I can revert the changes in the articles, but I pass this info along in case you wanted to delete the related images. --Rrburke^(talk) 02:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Seems all are deleted already. BTW, for a moment, you made me wonder if there is some Special:Randomadministrator feature by which you picked me, but I guess it's all those deletions of "mine". Oh well, I guess it's a shortcoming of running adminbots (zOMG!)... —Миша13 20:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot doesn't archive post that was marked with unsignedIP tag

The first section of my talk page was autosigned using the unsignedIP template, and MiszaBot does not seem to recognize that format. The link is to the IP's contributions, which might be the problem. — Carl (CBM · talk) 13:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

No, the problem are the seconds, reversed day<->month order and a comma. See a previous thread. Thankfully, SineBot seems to be using a standard timestamp now - you may want to adjust your talk page manually. Миша13 13:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. I'm used to fixing the page; didn't realize this was a known issue. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Article templates

Could you please revert your own edit to Wikipedia:Article templates. Those <p> tags don't belong in the cache test. {{ambox}} just had them for a while since Ilmari Karonen was experimenting with it. --David Göthberg 06:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot

I have

{{User:MiszaBot/config
|algo = old(1d)
|archive = User_talk:My_user_name/%(monthnameshort)s/%(year)d
}}

On my talk page, but MiszaBot hasn't touched my talk page. Why is that? 70.233.156.5 15:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly how the bot works, but do you have an account? You're not logged in now. It looksl like you'd probably have to change the "My_user_name" part to your username, whatever it is. Leebo ^T/C 16:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I have see here 70.233.156.5 16:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

you may want to ask the creator of the bot, here: User talk:Misza13 — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 17:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Not exactly sure at the moment - from what I can tell, the bot behaves as if your page didn't show up in Special:Whatlinkshere/User talk:Minesweeper.007 (which it does). Will look further into this... Миша13 20:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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MiszaBot II problem

Not sure what happened but this edit Diff left the talk page in a mess. Jeepday (talk) 13:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Quite obvious - there were ==section headers== inside <pre> tags (and shouldn't be treated as such). I have no clue however how to easily fix the bot to handle such situations. I have provided a workaround that will hopefully make the bot ignore these "headers" as sections. Миша13 20:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my Miszabot III code

Thanks for fixing my Miszabot III code, so I guess there is no way to transclude the template? Thanks, Leuko 16:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no. The bot searches for the configuration only in the main page's code. If it's transcluded from somewhere else, it can't find it. Миша13 16:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

i see you have helped someone with this before could you possibly have a look at my talk page as i'm having trouble setting up the archievs properly using miszabot. Skitzo, co-founder of the AfTaDaRkCrU 10:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing mine as well. My adoptee did me a favor and moved all of my talk page code to a subpage for me, and must not have known to leave your bot's code on the page. Sorry for not catching it, and thanks again, The Hybrid 22:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Darn You're Fast

I was about to get to blocking my doppelgangers and you already came in with banhammer! Can't ever beat you on username patrol :P...¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 00:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

/me wonders when people will stop trying to beat the machine... —Миша13 08:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for a cooperative effort among several bot designers/code writers

Misza, would you kindly consider helping to assemble a small group of bot designers that can interact on the project of organizing the tagging of NFC? Among the things that will be needed is a running tally of image and media file template usage. In kind response to my request, arising out of ongoing discussions at WT:NFC Betacommand has recently put together a static tally here. The partially complete tally includes Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags/All#Non-free_content and Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags/Public_domain. This will ideally need to be converted to a running tally of usages of all templates in Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags/All#Non-free_content and perhaps even the entire list of tags in Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags/All. Can you consider this? Do you know other competent bot designers who might be interested? This is, IMO, too important to leave to one user, because it has to do with complying with the Wikimedia Board Licensing Policy Resolution issued in March 2007. WP needs to get this more-or-less in order by March 2008. I just left a similar note on Rich Farmbrough's page. I look forward to hearing more about this possiblity of a cooperative effort so the whole task does not fall on one user (presently Betacommand). ... Kenosis 15:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Are we basically talking a template backlink tracker here? I think I could set up a bot for this, similar to User:MiszaBot/Trackers but with a different structure. Миша13 21:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Misza. Yes, something that can keep a regular tally of usage of all the templates on the one page. It would be daily, weekly, perhaps even monthly would be adequate for starters-- enough to develop trend lines of usage for each template, say, on a spreadsheet and ultimately on a chart or graph. For now, I'm trusting that the Image_copyright_tags page will be where they'll be expected to be kept. There are presently some stray ones out there, though I imagine thatl'll get readily enough decided in the future, even if the page's name is changed to something else in the future.

So, I think we're talking about a bot that's sufficiently important to Wikipedia that IMO the code should be shared among a small committee of experienced, trusted, competent bot operators. Rich Farmbrough also responded on my talk page to the similar request I made here>, and I haven't yet called this developing conversation to Betacommand's attention, though feel free to mention it to him if you talk with him before I do. ... Kenosis 14:39, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I would probably go further and made the code public. It could perhaps be kept on a public repository on the toolserver, with few developers having write access to it. I'll give it a thought over the next few days. Миша13 18:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I support this. In the interim, Betacommand says he's moving forward with it on a userspace. I suppose we can discuss the cooperative aspects as it goes along. (Call it friendly competition I suppose, but I think it's important enough to put into a common space, with due credit to its creator(s) of course. ;-) Anyway, discussion is also now continuing at Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Towards_keeping_track_of_image-licensing_template_usage. ... Kenosis 18:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot III

I was wondering if you would mind taking a look at my talk page here. For some reason Misza III doesn't seem to be archiving it anymore. I don't recall changing anything recently so I don't know why it stopped. Thanks. KnightLago 19:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

A relatively new feature. To prevent pages from being harvested clean of threads, the bot uses a minimal number of threads to leave on a page. See User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained - it's minthreadsleft and you can adjust it on your talk page to a lower value than the default of 5. Миша13 21:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I will see if it works now. KnightLago 22:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Poke

Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Why_bother_uploading_if_a_bot_is_going_to_delete_it.3F. 136.152.153.120 04:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Liek zomg! Миша13 18:03, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

For the typo fix. Apparently 2am is not the best time for me to be editing :-) Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 18:40, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Special request for MiszaBot II

I would like archiving of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Twinkle/Bugs for sections flagged as resolved (though not before lets say 10 days). _→AzaToth 21:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

TODO:

1. content-regex-based archiving
2. archiving of ===level three sections===

Hopefully, I'll get to write that before this thread gets archived. :> —Миша13 22:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

How to get a box listing the archive pages

An editor added {{User:MiszaBot/config}} to the Talk:Luton page, and so MiszaBot has moved various threads to subpages named by months. But there is no box at the top of the main talk page listing the archives. Should we have done something to get such a box created automatically, or do we have to make it by hand? Thanks, JonH 17:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

One can do it by hand (which is not that much work once the initial ones are created) or can somehow use ClueBot III (talk · contribs) - it supposedly can maintain archive indexes (in addition to regular archiving). Миша13 18:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I have added the box by hand. JonH 12:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for contributing in the wikipedia database wipeout process

Hello. I just wanted to mention that I just started to spend time that I already spent for the same thing writing things that had been subject to speedy deletion. You invoked a communist in me, so I licensed most of my contributions in a new self-made bot-compliant license now. If you consider doing further damage to my contributions, I consider leaving the English part of the Wikipedia. Please, in future, dump a copy of my deleted contributions in my talk page (so I can correct them rather than rewrite them). --Lazer erazer 14:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

What is your problem, exactly? I have deleted a total of one image you uploaded and within policy - it was a non-free image that wasn't used in articles. You have been sufficiently warned on your talk page that such images may be subject to deletion. Furthermore, I am in no way obliged to inform anyone of my speedy deletions (which would be insane). If your best way of contributing is to vent on people who enforce copyright policy, then by all means leave. Миша13 16:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

What license do I have to grant to prevent speedy deletion? --Lazer erazer 20:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Free (as in freedom, meaning it doesn't constrain the use of the media). Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ provides a quick run through available licenses. In general, any non-free content is considered harmful (this is supposed to be a free encyclopedia, after all) and without a good reason it will be deleted. Миша13 21:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Would a Cc-by-sa-3.0 license be OK for Wikipedia? (How about derivates? commercial use? etc.?) --Lazer erazer 21:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

CC-BY-SA is probably the most common variation used on both Wikipedia and Commons (it is also in a way compatible with the GFDL used by default). Any limitations might disqualify it as free enough for Wikipedia (most notably, free images here must allow for commercial reuse (again, for GFDL compatibility, I presume), so NC is out of the question), though I'm not an expert on this. You can check the upload wizard, follow the own work path and see the available choices. Though you might also seriously consider uploading the image to Commons instead (to allow wider use). Миша13 21:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixing stuff

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for fixing the MiszaBot coding on my talk page. So, thanks! J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 01:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Signpost updated for September 24th, 2007.

You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. R Delivery Bot 02:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Annoying question on MiszaBot III

Hey there. I just added the code for MiszaBot on my talk page; is there a predetermined time when the page will be archived? Do I have to do something to activate it? Is there some file other than User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo which can answer my noobish questions so I needn't pester you with them? Thanks. – Scartol · Talk 01:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll answer this! (I feel like the little girl who shoots her hand up in class, Ooh ooh! I know! I know! hee hee) MiszaBot III runs once daily, and starts around 8:30 a.m. Eastern time. So your name should be reached before 10 a.m. Eastern time, normally. ^Ariel♥Gold 01:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Yup, it has just done its job. And way to go, Ariel. Миша13 13:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a problem on my talk page too. I noticed that I put the code as told many many days ago and It's still not archived. I must have made a common error... Could you look into it please?

Also, A bot receiving the Signpost? Strange... -- Kl4m ^{T C} 18:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

welcome.py new version

http://botwiki.sno.cc/wiki/Python_talk:Welcome.py#Korean_add

Update, please!! :) -- WonYong ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 23:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Weekly Episode 31

Archiving WP:COIN

Hello Misza. We are trying to see if MiszaBot archiving would work at WP:COIN. There was a discussion over at User_talk:MER-C whether the show/hide boxes used to resolve issues would confuse the bot. I was going to do one archiving run to see what would happen. Meanwhile I noticed you moved one of the reports on the Noticeboard. That particular one is supposed to stay permanently at the top, and not be archived. Perhaps you can recommend how it should be handled. Thanks, EdJohnston 18:55, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

You are confused because how Mediawiki displays the diff. I have not moved the thread down - I have move the MiszaBot template up. It must be placed before the first thread (defined as a ==second level section==) or the bot will not find it at all. However, as long as the section meant to stay does not contain a valid timestamp, it will be ignored and not archived. Миша13 19:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that. Since I notice that no reports from COIN have yet been archived, something must not be acceptable to the bot. I note for example that WP:COIN#Kandisky123_-_Promotion_of_commercial_website has not been archived, while the last dated comment is 14 August. Our reports have a somewhat irregular structure. Perhaps I should make a couple of dummy reports with backdated signatures, and see if I can get them to archive, to see what the matter is. EdJohnston 16:58, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Everything going well now; two nights of successful archiving. Thanks! EdJohnston 15:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

CKCK-TV's images

If i were to place proper fair-use and copyright tags on the deleted images that were on CKCK-TV's article, would you be willing to undelete them? I know that one was uploaded by a fellow wikipedian from one of their own video tapes of the station's programming... RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 01:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

That article already has several non-free images. How many more? Can you list them? Миша13 21:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)