Archive for March 2007

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Status switcher

Hi, I have been around Wikipedia for a while but not a expert on scripts. I attemped to follow this one and I could not understand it, I edited some of the pages as it said but does not seem to work. Do you know where I went wrong? - Mike Beckham 09:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

What was supposed to go in the /Status page was this. I also fixed a minor bug in your monobook (which was my fault). Now clear your cache and see if it works now. Миша13 10:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, it is very much apreciated! All works great! - Mike Beckham 10:47, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot and third-level section headings

You seem to have caused some breakage to section headings with this edit. Looks like a simple bug to me. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed that too. I got caught by a tricky regex trap, but it should be fixed now. However, it will be more tricky to clean up the mess it did with that thread... Миша13 21:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

User page prod

I believe the policy has changed. (Quote Proposed deletion is a process for deleting articles (and, under certain circumstances, user pages)). Agathoclea 22:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

EssjayBot III

Hey mate. I believe you wrote the code for Essjay's archiving bots (I could be wrong). If so, any chance you maybe resurrecting something similar as a MiszaBot? That bot was so so handy! :) Glen 10:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Gah, I've been observing the Essjay drama for a while and only just noticed that he (and his bots) quit. :'(

I've already started rewriting the code (since it's so messy) to a newer version, but gave it up due to real-life burden a while ago. But since there'll be a need for it, I'll try to find some time to dig it up and set up under MiszaBot. Миша13 10:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the news about Essjay sucks. Thanks in advance Glen 10:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

lol, this is exactly the same reason I'm here. – Steel 14:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Have patience - I'm working on it right now and making progress. :-D Damn, we have no BCM on this site... :-P Миша13 14:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay folks, it's set up. Now I just have to figure out the bot's other "clients", preferably without going through EB3's contribs or asking everyone... Миша13 23:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Yayayay. Thanks Misza. – Steel 23:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks matey! Glen 08:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

"This Space Is For Rent"

Hi, I notice you have a conveniently banner ad sized bit of userpage that you don't know what to do with :) Is it really for rent? If so, is it OK if I advertise stuff like maintenance collaborations and guidelines there? Thanks for your time – Qxz 19:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, yes it is. I used to have the motto there, but got disappointed. Then there was {{Special:Recentchanges/1}} trancluded for a while, but I got bored. Gurch promised to put something there, but left. So, I'm stuck with this piece of space and no ideas. Go ahead and edit User:Misza13/Global Header with regard to that space. If it's something interesting and I like it, I'll just adding something like "Ad by Qxz" and let it be. ;-) Миша13 19:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I've constructed a template in my userspace which randomly displays one of six banner-ad-shaped images that I've uploaded, some of which are animated. This template is already in use on my talk page and others; I'll add that to the header. I'm planning to add more over time – feedback on the ads themselves and suggestions for new ones would be most welcome. Thanks again – Qxz 00:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Reverted common.js change

Hi Misza, I reverted your edit on MediaWiki:common.js because it was causing issues with firefox. See discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Please_enable_JavaScript. If you feel that this was a mistake on my part, feel free to revert me back. Normally I'd consult you first, but I felt it was necessary to act quickly. Thanks. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 21:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

One of said "clients"

Hey there, Misza13, I saw in an above thread that you were looking for EssjaybotIII's former "clients". Well, I'm one of them. :-) I don't know what you need me to do to get back to the archiving business, but anyway, here's one user you don't have to hunt down. Talk to you soon! Heimstern Läufer 23:36, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I just saw your post to User:MiszaBot III. OK:

• User talk:Heimstern
• Current archive: User_talk:Heimstern/archive 3. Then on to 4, 5 etc.
• When to archive: Posts that are older than 14 days.
• Maximum archive size: 50K

OK, lemme know if there's anything else you need. Thanks! Heimstern Läufer 23:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Set. You sure about that 50K? It seems a bit low for me - the default I use is 250K, but as you wish... :) Миша13 23:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm one of EssjaybotIII's former clients too.

• User talk:Nishkid64
• Current archive: User_talk:Nishkid64/Archive 24.
• When to archive: Posts that are older than 2 days.
• Maximum archive size: 50K

Thanks a lot, Misza13. =) Nishkid64 01:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Will do as soon as I get back from work and get shell access to toolserv. Миша13 08:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. Миша13 17:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I just noticed this. Can it do archives by number of headings in each, rather than size? At the moment I start a new archive when the current one has 50 sections in it, it'd be nice if a bot could do that. Thanks – Qxz 03:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

That's one thing on my to-do list, I'll let you know when it's ready. Миша13 08:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! What do you think of the ads? – Qxz 11:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

They're changing, useful & amazing - thanks! :) Миша13 12:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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Bot request

Thanks for stepping in to replace Essjay's Bots. There were two pages that his Bots used to archive at my request:

• User talk:WJBscribe
  • Currect archive= User talk:WJBscribe/Archive 4
  • When to archive= Threads older than 7 days
  • Maximum archive size= 75K
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies
  • Current archive= Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies/Archive 5
  • When to archive= Threads older than 7 days
  • Maximum archive size= 150K

Would be very grateful if the appropriate MiszaBots could take over the archiving of those pages. Thanks, WjBscribe 15:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. Миша13 17:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi there! Could you find it in your heart to bot archive my talk pages, too? I was using Werdnabot, but it has been (temporarily?) decommissioned for reasons I have not been able to determine.

• User talk:Jeffpw
• Current archive= User talk:Jeffpw/archive 5
• When to archive= Threads older than 2 days
• Maximum archive size= 75 kb

Thanks in advance. Jeffpw 14:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. Миша13 14:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Misza, there an error in Jeff's request above- his current archive is actually User talk:Jeffpw/Archive 5... WjBscribe 15:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Миша13 15:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

My user page deleted

Hey, I noticed you deleted my user page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=User%3A2help , because it had not been active for a month. OK, I didn't realize that was a policy on Wikipedia. Did you even tag it for deletion previously?

In any case, I understand your good intentions. I had some useful links there however, any chance I could get them back or is the page lost for good? 2help 07:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not that simple. You have the template {{test5i}} transcluded on your page. It adds your page to the Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages, which gets cleaned up periodically. But that assumes that the template was put on pages of users that were indefinitely blocked, which is not the case here. Since it is only me, who does the cleanup recently, before the next run I'll think of something so that it doesn't get deleted again. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Happy editing, Миша13 08:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, that makes sense. Thanks for reposting the page. Let me know if there is anything I can do make your cleanup process easier. 2help 00:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I saw this discussion while here on Bot business. I've removed the Category: Temporary Wikipedian userpages from 2help's userpage. Given that he must use the shortcuts on the left and not copy and paste from the right, it doesn't seem to affect his use of warnings whether the cat is there or not (he just wants to see what they look like)... WjBscribe 15:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh, I should've checked the page's contents myself. Then I'd probably notice that a bot has substituted them already 3 months ago. Anyway, that means they're probably severely out of date now (with the help of the WP:UW project). Oh well... Миша13 15:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I left a message on his talkpage including a link to WP:UWT so he can find out about the shiny new warning system... WjBscribe 15:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot status granted

Congratulations! I have flagged you as a bot! =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

LOL, not me but my bot, hopefully, but thanks! :) Миша13 18:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Yet another bot archive request

Your bot has successfully archived my talk pages, for which I thank you. A wikifriend of mine asked me to set up Werdnabot on his talk page (this before we knew Werdna died). I set up archives for him, and am now making the bot request on his behalf. You can see his request to me here.

• his page: User talk:Labyrinth13
• Archive: User talk:Labyrinth13/Archive 1
• When to archive= More than 2 days
• Maximum archive size= 75 kb.

Thanks a lot for providing this help. Sincerely, Jeffpw 19:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Already requested at User:MiszaBot/Archive requests and ready. Миша13 19:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the archive work

Thank you for taking over the archival of my talk page. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

My thanks too, I think you deserve:

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		For setting up Bots to take over the archiving work of the EssjayBots and Werdnabot. WjBscribe 19:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

archival request

Hi Misza - I request the User:MiszaBot III's services to archive my talkpage.

• What page do you want the bot to archive? (D'oh!): User talk:Rama's Arrow
• Sole archive (target): User talk:Rama's Arrow/Archive2007-A (no variables)
• Posts should be archived every 10 days.
• No maximum archive size.

Cheers, Rama's arrow 15:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. I've actually set it to /Archive$Y-A in the special "dated" mode, which means it should switch by itself next year. It'll however have a hard time with big, year-old archives... :/ Миша13 15:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! As regards to the year, can you set it to switch to user talk:Rama's Arrow/Archive2007-B after June 30, 2007? Basically I'm trying to have 2 archives for each year. Lemme know if there's anything I can do to simplify the process. Thanks again, Rama's arrow 18:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, right now it only supports variables for the year and month of thread. For an example, see how my archives are organised. I don't think I'll be adding this particular feature (-A and -B), unless I implement some sort of formula parsing, so just bug me in summer whenever it's time to turn the counter. Миша13 18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Aite cool! Thanks again! Rama's arrow 01:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot III Features

Is there a feature list somewhere? Like, will it create an {{archivebox}} automatically, or just add to one, etc? Thanx... — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 14:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

No, there is no feature list at the moment, because I expect it to evolve rapidly soon. So far it can put threads into archives and move on to next when they reach a certain size (in kilobytes). It lacks the automatic updating of an archive box yet, and that's gonna be one difficult feature to add. Миша13 14:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, just checking. Apparently, I'm not the only one with the problem that I had EssjayBot doing it, so then went to Werdnabot which never even ran on mine. Anyway, what language is it in? I may be able to contribute a little. — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 14:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

A task for you

WP:AIV Has filled up at an alarming rate, and is extremely backlogged. Can you please sort it out? Retiono Virginian 14:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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In this edition

• We wrap up the Essjay affair, as the famous Wikipedian cuts ties to the online encyclopedia.
• A look at the Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year Competition, which finished earlier this week. In addition, all the Featured Pictures of 2006 are available as a bittorrent download.
• The new “Username Usurpation” feature at the English Wikipedia.
• Jimmy Wales travels to India for the recent Indian WikiCamp, and narrowly survives an attack of ninja monkeys.
• One thousand Featured Articles at the German Wikipedia.
• 300 Spartans.

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Ta!

It works wonderfully! Ta! :) Gwen Gale 20:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops

For some reason your archive bot put the archive here: User talk:HighInBC/Archive $I, looks like it is reading a variable literally. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 02:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks like the same prob happened with all the archiving done at 02:35 [1]. WjBscribe 02:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I have blocked the bot for 24 hours, so it does not do it again on it's next run(I assume it runs at automatic intervals). Once you know what has gone wrong I will gladly unblock. Sorry about that, thank you for filling in with this much needed service. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 02:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops indeed. I have rewritten the variable handling yesterday, uploaded the new code to toolserv, uploaded updated config for I and II, but forgot about III. :-P Anyway, since it's fixed and mess cleaned up, I'll unblock it myself, if you don't mind. And thanks for keeping an eye on it - it's still in rapid development stage and while I test it before running, errors such as this may still happen. Миша13 10:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Essjay

Could you tell me where you think the sourcing of the Essjay article is lacking? I'm truly keen on knowing what you think :) Gwen Gale 12:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting any lackings. My sarcasm was rather refering to the fact that any articles on controversial, even-if-marginally-notable-outside-Wikipedia topics tend to have their references section blown out of proportion compared to the size of article, with nearly every sentence referenced. This of course is required so that noone can find a proper stick to kill the article with. And by the way, I really and without sarcasm would like people to concentrate on the 1,6M+ other articles we have, most of which are crap beyond imagination with regard to refernces. Миша13 13:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Aye, that's the pith. Gwen Gale 13:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey by the way I think this is spot on. Gwen Gale 14:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot problem

Hi Misza13, thank you so much for taking my order. There seems to be a proble, though. The bot is archiving my messages to Archive03, not Archive3 as I'd requested. Is that how it work? Thanks a lot. Xiner (talk, email) 14:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

No, it's an error on my side. I must've just made an error when copy-pasting the configuration. Should be fixed now. Миша13 14:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool, I see it's working beautifully now. Thanks! Xiner (talk, email) 14:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Kosova

If you have written the article on Kosova then you have written lies!

I was deleting those lies and the things which had nothing to do with Kosova. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ulpian morina (talk • contribs) 15:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Archiving Bot

Hello, Misza! Just wanted to let you know that I added my talk page to your list. Great job creating the bot, it makes many Wikipedians' lives much easier! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book, review me!) 22:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book, review me!) 23:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

hater club page

I think you should protect this page. See the history. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 23:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

can you undelete an image that you deleted?

Misza13, can you undelete Image:PlanViewPascuaLama.jpg. I believe it was deleted b/c it was not in the article (Pascua Lama), yet. If it's undeleted, I'll add it to the article in question. Thanks! Earthsound 05:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Ready. Please add the image and remove the orphan tags from the image. Миша13 17:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! done. Earthsound 05:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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Unfair block!!!!

Hey, why did you block the user "Can't sleep, Retiono Virginian will eat me" because of username!!?? That's unfair!! If you people can tolerate the presence of "Can't sleep, clown will eat me", why can't you allow this one!!?? --Edmundkh 16:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

There is a troll who has been taking names very similar to User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me's name to cause disruption. This choice of name has been used has a form of harassment in the past. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 16:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Trendypopup.jpg

This fair use image became orphaned due to vandalism that was not correctly reverted. Do you feel that its fair-use rationale still applies to the article (Pop-up Video)? –Unint 19:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I would say yes, but don't quote me on this (I'm not an expert). Since it was deleted by mistake, I have restored it. Миша13 20:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Do Unreplied

Does MiszaBot III archive unreplied messages? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 23:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes - it makes decisions basedon oldest timestamp in a thread. Sections without timestamps are ignored (will add an option to archive these in future). Миша13 00:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't it archive based on the newest comment? Otherwise a very long thread (lets say 10 days) will be archived though it's still ongoing. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 00:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Did I say "oldest"? Please discard my incoherent babbling - it's 1AM here... Of course it looks on the newest timestamp. Миша13 00:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

How about MiszaBot II? It would be nice on places like Wikipedia:Drawing board to leave requests that haven't gotten replies yet alone when archiving. The idea being that once the clutter of replied to requests are archived, the unreplied requests will stand out better, not to mention that these users deserve a reply even if there's a backlog. Thanks! —Elipongo (Talk|contribs) 07:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot III weirdness

Hey, I've noticed that MiszaBot III has been archiving threads from my user page to User talk:Coredesat/Archive 07. The threads should be going to User talk:Coredesat/Archive 7. Could you fix this? --Coredesat 05:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick fix. :) --Coredesat 20:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Jimbo Wales archiving age

User talk:Jimbo Wales is currently archiving threads older than 2 days. It was originally 7 days, but I lowered it due to the high traffic it had been receiving due to the Essjay incident. Now that the high traffic has subsided, it might be a good idea to return to the old behaviour. --cesarb 07:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Adjusted. Миша13 21:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I love it!

Hi, Michael. I just love the new MiszaBot III. It is one of the best bots here. Great work! --Meno25 07:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Harry potter and the Deathly Hallows, talk

Could you please stop your bot auto archiving the above page? Sandpiper 19:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I have disabled it per your request, although I don't understand what's wrong with it. Please make up your mind - I didn't come to set up the archiving on my own, but was asked by someone else (User:Fbv65edel). Миша13 19:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Misza, I know Essjay used to insist on seeing a concensus on an article's talkpage before he was willing to archive it. If this sort of thing continues, you might want to introduce a similar requirement for MiszaBot. WjBscribe 19:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

People put comments on talk pages and might like to read the answers they get before the whole lot gets deleted. 5 days delay is crazy. Aside from that, 5 months is crazy if a point is important and still relevant to the contents of the page. You can't just archive away things useful to editors. I have made up my mind, and on this point I havn't changed it. I don't recall anyone asking. FBV did ask about himself archiving some stuff on that page, but in that case he also went ahead and did it before I even noticed he was considering it, which rather illustrated my first point. Sandpiper 00:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot not working right?

It seems that every time bot III runs, it stops at Martinp23, and my page has yet to be archived. Is there something wrong? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 20:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the user right after Martin was renamed and the bot freaked out on a page redirect. Such problems will be entirely fixed once I implement a Werdnabot-style template-based config. Миша13 20:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

::Okay. And also, my page just archived to User talk:TeckWiz/Archive/2007/Ma, when it should go to User talk:TeckWiz/Archive/2007/Mar (not the "r" at the end.) It should be going to User talk:TeckWiz/Archive/{{CURRENTYEAR}}/{{CURRENTMONTHABBREV}}. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 20:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Your fast! --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 20:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Odd behavior today

For some reason, today it archived one thread from User talk:RevRagnarok (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) and then did another, five minutes later? — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 20:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

One was the scheduled and the other manual. I was tweaking TeckWiz's page settings and the other thread just happened to jump on the second round. :) Scheduled runs start on HH:35 (every 6 hours). Миша13 21:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, that makes sense - manual run ;) — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 01:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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In this edition

This episode sees Liam, more commonly known as Witty Lama, catching up with Rama’s Arrow and Ragib to talk about contributing to Wikipedia from and Indian and Bangladeshi perspective. Topics include their growing collection of Featured Articles, the success of the Indian WikiProject, and the problem of Internet access on the Subcontinent.

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User talk:Shadow1

Hi, it seems that one user Shadow1 is using the defunct Werdnabot for archiving. Could you please contact him for using MiszaBot III. Cheers! zero » 01:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I see you have contacted him already. If he needs the service, he'll know where to sign up. Миша13 08:19, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

suggestion

I see you've been blocking a bunch of disruptive usernames ("x is y's IP" and the like). Way to catch those guys! Could I suggest, however, that you enable autoblock, to prevent them from creating more ridiculous usernames? I think it's pretty clear that they aren't going to be constructive contributors. Natalie 03:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I usually avoid setting autoblocks, because they are discouraged due to collateral damage (the vandal may be using a shared IP, and they usually are) and WP:AGF. Only in severe cases (long series of abusive names) I tick the box. There's however one username vandal that just returns after the autoblock expires and also hops IPs. Regards, Миша13 08:25, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiver

Hello! I currently have your bot archiving my talk page, but I've found that the archive page is just too long. Is it possible for you to change it so that the archive is switched after 125KB instead 250KB? Thanks! --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 01:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Adjusted. Миша13 06:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Archive bot suggestion

Hi Misza, I have a suggestion for archiving the noticeboards. There could be two settings for thread age to trigger archiving. If the thread is either "resolved" (using {{resolved}}), or "closed", then the thread can be archived earlier, and in addition, threads that are idling because people haven't paid attention to some request will stay unarchived longer. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-16 07:34Z

Nice suggestions, but you should keep implementational issues in mind too. While the detection of {{resolved}} is a simple idea and should be ready soon, but I don't quite understand how do you propose to detect the "closed" state of a thread. Also, how do you discern threads that noone has paid attention too from those that are resolved & closed already, but perhaps not tagged properly? Миша13 07:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Good point, well, it'll be another incentive to mark threads as {resolved} :) —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-16 10:12Z

I added 'class="discussion-archived"' to the div in Template:discussion top, so it should be easy to detect it now. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-17 05:39Z

Werdnabot

Given that this Bot is unavailable for now- and at worse case scenario may have become ownerless, I think its important to draw people's attention to this and suggest your bot as an alternative. Otherwise Wikipedia may drown in its own talk (and boy do we all like to talk!). I was thinking of a post at WP:AN and on the Village Pump (I don't see any so far). Just wanted to check with you first as to whether you minded the possibly large inflow of requests you might get... WjBscribe 14:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I could quite easily process even 10s of requests as long as they follow instructions. Worse thing will be with cleaning up the talk pages from old code (if I'm not mistaken, WB used to maintain and update archive indexes - a feature MiszaBot doesn't have yet). Миша13 14:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it did that if the "archivelist=" parameter was included, but it looks like most users of the template did not included it. So either people didn't want it, or didn't realise it could do that. Either way the function shouldn't be missed too much....

If you're happy with the extra requests I'll post a couple of notes about Werdnabot and suggest your Bot as an alternative. Thanks, WjBscribe 14:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

At the end, Werdnabot (talk · contribs) was handling 655 talk pages. Can you handle that many? JRSpriggs 07:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

A Werdnabot clone, Shadowbot3, should be coming online shortly so Misza won't have to take on all the Bot archiving on Wikipedia. WjBscribe 07:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

bot archive?

Does your bot archive user talk pages as well? I looked on the bots page but it said it only does noticeboards. However your talk page seems to indicate otherwise. If so, could I get your bot to archive my user talk page at User talk:Swatjester? Thanks!⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 19:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Where does it say so? MiszaBot III archives user talk pages. For my convenience, please apply via User:MiszaBot/Archive requests. Миша13 20:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I was looking at Miszabot II. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 05:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Archive jumping at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Credential Verification

Jimbo cleared out the whole page at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Credential Verification, moving the whole page to the second archive (your bot was still at the first archive). Could you make your bot archive starting at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Credential Verification/Archive 3, so newly archived discussions will not mix up with discussions from before the "reset"? --cesarb 02:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Adjusted. Миша13 10:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Foreign Wikipedias

Hi, Misza, do you run your bot on foreign wikipedias as well? At Swedish Wikipedia we would like to have our Village Pump archived on a regular basis. Is this something you can do? //Knuckles 15:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll release the source code soon enough, so everyone should be able to set up their own archiving service with only little knowledge of pywikipedia. Миша13 17:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, thanks! :-) //Knuckles 17:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

User Status

Hi! The user status is a great idea! But I just can't get it to work. I followed the instructions and the only thing that I changed was "Example's Status" to "Greeves' Status" on the template. If you could have a look at it, I have all the same page names that you chose. The strange thing is that I see the in/out/busy when I preview my monobook yet when I save, it doesn't stay. Thanks in advance! Greeves ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it just took a few minutes to kick in. LOL! Thanks for the great script though! Greeves ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Quite understandable. On preview, the JS is force-loaded, but making it persistent requires clearing the browser's cache. You can read more about it on WP:CACHE. Cheers, Миша13 18:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Strange bot behaviour at User talk:Jimbo Wales

MiszaBot III was already archiving to User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 22; for some reason, it has now gone back to User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 21, which is already full. --cesarb 03:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Strange, since the counter in the config explicitly states "22" now - maybe just a one-time glitch - I'll see if it repeats itself. Миша13 17:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Wdefconbot

When will this be fixed? Real96 05:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean? It seems to be working fine. Миша13 17:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see it on IRC. Real96 23:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:UW future?

Hi, Sorry for the blatant spam, but you have yourself down as active at WikiProject user warnings WP:UW. There is a discussion on going here that might be of interest to you about the future of this project. There are two strawpolls on the talk pages and the second one is about the future of the WP:UW project. Now we have the end in sight we are looking at wrapping up the project and merging it with Template messages/User talk namespace WP:UTM and creating a one stop shop for all userspace template issue. As you are or have been active on this project we feel you may have some input on this issue, and would like you to visit the discussion and give any thoughts you may have on the matter. Cheers ^Khukri 10:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Email for you

Hi, check your email. :) ElinorD (talk) 12:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

My archive

Hi, Misza. There's something weird going on with my archive. It's set to switch at 125KB, but it currently is 137KB. Also, my discussions are being archived after one day instead of three. Can you help me please? It's located at User talk:Cremepuff222/Archive2. Thanks in advance. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 21:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, after MiszaBot's last edit, the archive had only 117K. Then you dumped some stuff manually and overloaded it to its current state. By how the bot works, it will now drop one more thread there and then detect that it's full (it assumes it's the only archiver) and move on to #3. As of thread age, can you point me to a diff where it archived a thread "younger" than 3 days? Cheers, Миша13 21:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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Misza

What's the code in order to change WPDefconbot on IRC? Can you please tell me on talk page? Thanks. Real96 22:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Bots

Hey, your bots didn't edit today. (I had to archive my talk page myself! :o) Are they dead, or just sleeping? Sorry for being impatient :) – Qxz 21:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

For one thing, I have lowered the edit rate to one run daily. For the other, seems that toolserv had a downtime while the run was scheduled (2:35) for today. Миша13 21:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, they're on the toolserver. Got to expect a bit of downtime then, I guess :P – Qxz 20:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Slow bot to 24h cycle

Hi Misza13,

Recently, MiszaBot III ran three times in a 24 hour period on a user talk page:

• 20:36, 18 March 2007 MiszaBot III (Talk | contribs) m (Archiving 1 thread(s) older than 3d to User talk:Qxz/Archive 5.)
• 08:36, 18 March 2007 MiszaBot III (Talk | contribs) m (Archiving 2 thread(s) older than 3d to User talk:Qxz/Archive 4, User talk:Qxz/Archive 5.)
• 02:36, 18 March 2007 MiszaBot III (Talk | contribs) m (Archiving 2 thread(s) older than 3d to User talk:Qxz/Archive 4.)

It would be more convenient for me if the bot only ran once in a 24-hour period on a given talk page. (This is because when I am monitoring a talk page, I like to select an entire range of revisions and just see the differences between the first and last revisions. Each time an archive bot runs, it inserts a large revision that is irrelevant to me.)

Expressing my 2¢ worth,

--Kevinkor2 21:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

And you are monitoring my talk page for what reason? :D – Qxz 07:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Good point - I'll down the frequency to 1 edit per day for user talks. Миша13 17:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I see elsewhere on your talkpage that MiszaBot III has missed a few cycles. I'm sorry if my suggestion is causing troubles. Please feel free to undo. --Kevinkor2 04:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

MiszaBot III

Hi, MiszaBot III hasn't archived my talkpage since March 19, although there are now a number of threads older than 7 days on it. Is there a problem? I'd be grateful if you could find a sec to look into it. WjBscribe 02:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I nailed it. It seems to stop after User talk:KenWalker. Guessing that User talk:Kimonandreou is next on the list, I know what's the problem - again a redirect page that holds off the whole cycle. I'll fix it as soon as I get shell access. Миша13 07:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Small harmless bug

There is a small harmless bug here[3] where it says it is archiving 3 threads, but it is really archiving 4 threads. I think it is because on of those threads has no replies. Just thought I would point it out, thanks for taking over the archiving work. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 03:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Difficult to tell from the look of the diff and I don't have detailed execution logs either. My best guess would be that (for some reason) the bot didn't recognize one of the thread headers and treated it as a part of the previous one's content. Миша13 07:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

No big deal, lord knows I still have several little bugs in my bots. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 20:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

politics

a mess or a disaster? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Perfectscrewup (talk • contribs) 18:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

??? Миша13 18:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Usertalk page 204.185.75.130

Why is 204.185.75.130's talk page protected? This makes it so even that user can't request unblocking.. Spixels 20:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

In cases when a user/IP abuses the {{unblock}} template or repetitively vandalises their talk page while blocked (and that was the apparent case here), their talk page may be protected from editing until the block expires. Миша13 20:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Then in that case could you add {{schoolip|Liberty Public Schools}}. (The only (possible) DNS I know of for this IP address is liberty.k12.mo.us which doesn't match up with 204.185.75.130) Spixels 21:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Change to my archive?

Hi, Misza! Could you check the archive page that you're putting my archived messages to? I think it's going to User talk:SatryTN/Archive 4 instead of User talk:SatyrTN/Archive 4 - notice the order of the "y" and "r". Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 04:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. A tyop on my side, obviously. :) Миша13 11:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Np - thanks much!! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 13:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

End of month in archiving bot

Hi Misza! Is there a way that your bot can move all messages from that month to that archive no matter what (currently, if you use month archives, and someone leaves a message on the 27, and you have your bot set to archive after its 7 days old, it will archive to the next month, since it will be a new month in 7 days). Thanks! --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 13:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

No it won't. Each thread's time is equal to the last timestamp in that thread. So, if someone posts on 27th of March and you reply on 28th then it will be archived somewhere in April, but will land in the March archive (because the thread's timestamp is from March). Миша13 13:57, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

So even though it's programmed to archive to {{CURRENTMONTHABBREV}}, it will archive a March thread in April to the March archive? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 14:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC).

It's never been programmed to archive to {{CURRENTMONTHABBREV}}, but rather to %(monthnameshort)s. Миша13 14:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Thats great! Werdnabot never did that. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 14:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Experimental backlinking MiszaBot drive

Hmmm, does this mean everyone's going to have to have a template on their talk page for MiszaBot to work? And you didn't select me! :( – Qxz 17:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it means that. And sorry for not choosing you - I just needed a small sample - will run a batch conversion of all current users later on. Миша13 17:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and you might want to protect User:MiszaBot/config. Just in case someone finds it – Qxz 17:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Hrmmmyes... I know that... What's this wikistalking about, anyway? ^.^ Миша13 17:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Algo

What does the "algo" parameter mean? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 22:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Have a guess. Миша13 22:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

But what does that tell the bot? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 22:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

What are the conditions under which it should archive a thread. Миша13 22:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't "maxage" do that. Thanks! --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 22:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, finally a good point. Obviously that's a screw up on my part. In the new system, the maxage parameter is ignored (as it is superceded by algo) - I forgot to scrap it when upgrading the system. I'll set up a hack in the code so that it gets removed on the next run. Миша13 22:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Template

You're probably getting tired of me (seeing as this is the third time I've posted a message on this page), but does the template allow users to change MiszaBot's archiving settings? --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 23:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

(before edit conflict) I'm actually tired of keeping up with the new requests and maintaining the current configuration (it breaks more often than you might think). Thus, the answer is "yes" - configuration to the hands of people. :) I'm putting a short manual on User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo. Миша13 23:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh! I just saw that you created the User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo page. Sorry to bother you. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 23:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

(after edit onflict) grrr.... >:( Миша13 23:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

Can you stop archiving my talk page until I get back (probably in two weeks), because I am on Wikibreak. Thanks! Real96 03:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Just remove the template from your page. (it now works like Werdnabot, Misza doesn't have to manually change everything) --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 03:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

New interesting article

Check this out: Battle of Jarosław, and please, make it better :) Pan Wikipedia 13:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd love to (like I'd like to improve all articles on Wikipedia), but I really suck at writing articles and am much better suited to technical assistance and gnomish work. Besides, I have no idea where to get sources from to improve it. Try asking for help on our noticeboard, perhaps? :-) Миша13 14:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Ooops

Saw your correction on my watchlist just before I got your message, sorry.... (Just can't trust people to do it themsleves :-) ). WjBscribe 14:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bridges

I see this page has been set to be archived by Miszabot - I had thought it was polite to see if there was a consensus among the page's users before doing so? This has removed quite a lot of material that as far as I was concerned was still relevant, ongoing discussion and it will be tedious to go through and restore the relevant items. -- Kvetner 22:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Instructions I've pointed out in various places do mention that some consensus is welcome when archiving public noticeboards. It's up to the users now, really - don't blame neither the bot nor me. You can simply revert the bot (since it's still the top contributor) and remove the template I've added here (or adjust the settings, although threads that are one month old are hardly "ongoing" to me). Миша13 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Main page talk archiving

Just keeping with what bot does what: Even though the main page talk is actually in the talk mainspace, shouldn't MiszaBotII be archiving it, since it's Wikipedia related? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 00:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

In an ideal world, it should, and it did back when each bot read the full configuration from a file given to it. Now they all work via backlinks to User:MiszaBot/config and I can only restrict each one to one namespace or one page, but cannot ban a bot from editing a page. Yet. Миша13 09:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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MiszaBot III

There is a malfunction of your bot's service. Its edit summary indicates that my posts are transferred from my talk page to a special file called "/dev/null". Could you fix it? — zero » 03:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Because it's not just "formatting" - the options need to be given line-by-line, not smashed together. Otherwise, the bot won't fine a line named "|archive=" and assume you want the posts to go to nowhere. It's not the bot's malfunction, maybe I haven't made myself clear enough on the instructions page. Миша13 09:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot?

Hi - got a bot running un books in your name - User:MiszaBot - misplacing categories at present. Reverted and blocked for now - thanks --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Could be a vandal bot - feel free to let me know - thanks --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on wikibooks. Миша13 11:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - digging a bit - looks like a few vandal bots created. IP here has a W o W reference too! Indef blocked the bot - thanks for the help - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Documentation?

Can you add some documentation on how us mortals can edit things like

{{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 125K |counter = 94 |algo = old(3d) |archive = Talkfrr:Main Page/Archive %(counter)d }}

, since I cannot find any documentation about it anywhere. Especialy the "algo" bit. ffm ✎talk 20:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Every bot has a big link to User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo on their userpage, where all options are explained. algo= basically tells when to archive a page. Миша13 20:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, is there a way to get the bot to put {{talkarchive}} {{archive-nav|(counter)}} on every new archive page it creates for Talk:Main Page? ffm ✎talk 20:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Not yet. Миша13 20:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick reply, and sorry for my stupididy in the first posting. ffm ✎talk

There are no stupid questions - only answers and it btw helped me spot that some evil anon broke the config. (I'd spot that from error logs, but anyway...) Миша13 20:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, then I am glad to have been of help! ffm ✎talk 20:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Happy birthday!

Happy Birthday! :D -- Where 22:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help fixing the code I put on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Jersey State and County Routes. Apparently I fixed my copy and pasting in one place, but not the other. And also, thank you so much for providing this service. -- NORTH ^talk 09:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

Thanks for correcting my 'deliberate' mistake. Chrislintott 09:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hey, thanks for spotting that mistake in the talk page template, I swear, I'm going insane ;) I swore about 5 times I checked it for obvious stuff as well! Thanks again --NigelJ ^talk 12:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)