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Contents 1 League of Nations 2 Cannabis rescheduling in the United States 3 Featured articles 4 Flag of South Africa 5 expos/nationals debate 6 Sandy Koufax 7 radio show about Wikipedia 8 Negro Leagues 9 Baseball Wikiportal 10 2005 Boston Red Sox Season 11 Steve Dalkowski 12 Firpo Marberry 13 List of New York Yankees people 14 W. Mark Felt 15 lots of edits, not an admin 16 john milius 17 Change all baseball articles 18 Gerry Davis 19 My goodness, there's a reason 20 Baseball postseason 21 Fixing Page Moves 22 The Buffalo Skull of Diligence 23 2005 in baseball 24 Thanks for wikifying me 25 Baseball HOF Balloting, 2006 26 Year-related categories

[edit] League of Nations

I just wanted to thank you for your very thorough and helpful copyediting to League of Nations. Many thanks. -- ALoan (Talk) 23:30, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. MisfitToys 23:40, Mar 10, 2005 (UTC)

You are welcome. I hadn't seen that it was the front-page article, but your edits were excellent. -- ALoan (Talk)

[edit] Cannabis rescheduling in the United States

Thanks for the edits. Rad Racer 21:20, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Do you have sysop powers? The revision should also be made to Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 16, 2005. Thanks, Rad Racer 21:39, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Nope; but thanks. MisfitToys 21:43, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Featured articles

I make a habit of watching articles about to go on the front page, and I see you doing massive cleanup and improvement to each of them. I'm very impressed by your work, and would like to award you this Tireless Contributor Barnstar. You may like to move it to your user page.-gadfium 22:50, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks very much! I'll do that. MisfitToys 00:36, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of South Africa

Thanks for all your help, you smoothed out some sentences that I'd been struggling with for ages! Páll 01:12, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

My pleasure; I thought it particularly ideal to track down the full name for Brownell. MisfitToys 19:26, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] expos/nationals debate

There is a major debate going on, and I wondered if you might want to chime in. The debate involves how to deal with franchise moves in baseball. The question is whether Montréal Expos should be its own article or if it should redirect to Washington Nationals. All other instances of franchise moves in MLB redirect the old team name to the new team name, and the history of the franchise is covered within the new team name (for MLB, NBA and NFL examples, see here. Some people are confused and think the Expos and the Nats are different teams. Some people don't want to upset Canadian readers.

Indeed, the Washington Nationals are not a new team - the Montreal Expos franchise has moved to Washington, and the old franchise name should redirect to the new franchise name, just like the 20+ instances of this occuring in Wikipedia. For example, Brooklyn Dodger history resides in the Los Angeles Dodgers article. New York Giants history, including the Shot Heard 'Round the World, resides in the San Francisco Giants article.

If you have the time, maybe you could chime in on the conversation there, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Montréal Expos. Kingturtle 17:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks; I've added a few comments there. MisfitToys 20:47, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sandy Koufax

Would you mind having a look at my Sandy Koufax rewrite. It's been up a couple of weeks and hasn't really gone under any type of review. Thanks! Gorrister 23:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I've made some minor changes, but overall it looks terrific. MisfitToys 23:45, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

I've also done Pete Rose (that was a while ago), Hank Aaron (I think the tables at the bottom should be deleted), Satchel Paige, Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker if you feel like looking at those. Thanks for the edits to the Koufax page. I'm still getting the hang of when to link and when not to link. Gorrister 10:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

I had already done Paige and Rose; I think I did some edits to Cobb, but not as much. I hadn't gotten to Speaker or Aaron yet. I agree that the large tables don't add much to these articles; they take up a massive amount of space, and the stats are easily available through external links. I'm inclined to leave them for the time being on articles which don't have detailed synopses of the player's career, but see no reason to keep them in the long run. MisfitToys 19:20, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Do you think Koufax is ready for feature status? Gorrister 21:51, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Ideally, there wouldn't be as many ghost (red) links, especially in the Perfection section. Too many of those tend to look bad in a featured article. MisfitToys 21:58, May 7, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] radio show about Wikipedia

Hi

My name is Robin Amer and I’m a producer for an American public radio show called Open Source, which you can check out at www.radioopensource.org.

I’m writing you because this week we’re doing a show on Wikipedia including an interview with Jim Wales. We’re also looking for some particularly passionate and interesting Wikipedia users to talk to. I would love to talk to you about your involvement with the site. If you are interested, please give me a call, or email me and send me your phone number.

Thanks so much.

Best, Robin Amer www.radioopensource.org

[edit] Negro Leagues

Hey, are you interested in the Negro Leagues at all? I've put together a template that is moderatly useful as an infobox, similar to my baseball player infobox and I've added a Template:Negro League teams, similar to the Template: Defunct NFL teams. Would you like to help in getting the initial articles for each team finished and/or revise articles as they are written? Also, I put Sandy Koufax up for featured article, and, since you did a lot of work on the article, I thought you might like to hop over there to add you support - if you do support it that is. Thanks! Gorrister 22:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Well, it isn't as if I don't have enough to do... it's an area of interest to me, but I doubt that it would be one of my priorities. MisfitToys 23:33, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Baseball Wikiportal

Hello. Some of us, including me and Googie man, have been discussing the creation of a Baseball portal (see Wikipedia:Wikiportal). Would you be interested in helping out on this? Danny 23:10, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Well, I see the Baseball portal already exists; I'm not really familiar enough with the portal area to do a lot with it, but I'd be happy to offer any occasional help you might be interesyed in. MisfitToys 00:25, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 Boston Red Sox Season

Check this out if you have time. I am looking forward to a deletion motion, similar to my 2005 New England Patriots Schedule article's status at present. I am thinking of starting park effects etc, as sabermetrics clones, but I am a bit discouraged by the deletion process. --172.131.99.119 03:56, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, the big question is that of significance - we know, for example, that the 2005 World Series will be noteworthy, but if the Red Sox were to suddenly have a lousy season and finish fourth, an article on their 2005 season would be somewhat unnecessary. Their dramatic fall from the top could likely be well-covered in the 2005 in baseball article, I suspect. Otherwise, it seems that the articles would constitute little more than news reports and commentary. I know there's a place for this kind of article, but I'm not sure Wikipedia is it. As for park effects, that would likely make an excellent article, though the specifics for each stadium should go on their separate pages. The main article would simply be an overview, with significant examples and comparisons, along with the history of study in the area. MisfitToys 20:55, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Dalkowski

Thank you for your work on the Steve Dalkowski article, it is much improved thanks to your efforts. Zerbey 22:46, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Firpo Marberry

Great job on expanding the Firpo Marberry article, and thank you. But I was just wondering: Why did you remove the "baseball umpires" category. Baseball Library said he was a Major League umpire briefly. Thanks.

Well, he only umpired briefly - not even a full season. It's mentioned in the article, but the minor nature of it doesn't seem to merit putting him in the category; there have been numerous major league players who probably umpired in more games than he did, on a purely substitute basis. Everyone currently in the category umpired in the World Series, and there are about 200 umpires who have worked in the postseason or All-Star Game - they seem to be the ones clearly belonging in the category. I'm not sure it's worthwhile to put people in categories for occupations they held for a only a couple of months, with no particular distinguishment. MisfitToys 22:32, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of New York Yankees people

I recently made the article "Ray Mack." Mack was on the Yankees for a VERY brief period. He is listed on baseball reference as having played for them for 1 game, and has no other numbers, all 0's across the board. So I'm assuming he pinch ran or something.

So, anyway, I added him to List of NY Yankees people, which I'm assuming is correct since he is listed as playing a game with them. However, I wasn't sure what position to put since he never played the field as a yankee. I put 2B because he was a second basemen for his entire career.

So, I was just wondering how you wanted to handle that.

[edit] W. Mark Felt

Salve!
I nominated W. Mark Felt as a WP:FAC. As you commented on the article's talk page, I'd appreciate your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/W. Mark Felt. PedanticallySpeaking 14:57, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] lots of edits, not an admin

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:36, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] john milius

hi, i noticed you've contributed to the John Milius article in the past and was wondering if you would like to weigh in on a discussion i've been having with another editor regarding subsequent edits to the article.

thanks. Seasee 28 June 2005 04:55 (UTC)

[edit] Change all baseball articles

Hey what's up, i was wondering if you would like to join me and maybe some of your other friends in changing all the baseball articles into the ones Roger Clemens. They have tables on the right with their height, weight, salary, etc. Please reply back on my talk page. Giantsrule September 19 2005 Giantsrule September 19 2005 04:19 (UTC)

[edit] Gerry Davis

Hi! Thanks for fixing the links to go to the proper page (Gerry Davis (screenwriter)) on all the Doctor Who stuff. Help is always appreciated!--Sean Jelly Baby? 20:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My goodness, there's a reason

I call it continuity. The reason I use a seperate line is that to show the series score. By the way, what's with the semi-colon on the end next to the italicized recap? NoseNuggets 4:25 AM US EDT Oct 19 2005.

• But it isn't continuity; Putting the series standings on a different line separates it completely from the game recap. The only things that should be listed on a new line are different events altogether. MisfitToys 20:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Baseball postseason

Hi there! I noticed you've been following up the 1995 postseason articles with the umpire entries and was just wondering where you were getting the listing of umpires. If I had a list, I could add them in the initial page when I get around to doing some other years.

Also, do you like the format or have any ideas on improvement? Do you think we should port that format over to some other postseason entries, such as the page on the 2003 American League Division Series. Or maybe a fusion of the two, since the 2003 entry gives a short recap of the events of the game, whereas the pages I've done are pretty much just stats and results, with no information about the events of any one particular game. Right now they are pretty much just cookie cutter pages. I'm still relatively new here, and I'm not sure, but could we make the template a standard for all pages about the postseason series? Let me know if there's anything I can do to edit better. Thanks! -- Chupon 14:53, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I've been collecting data on the umpires over the past year or so; the postseason assignments were in The Sporting News annual guides, and I just double-check them before posting so I get them in the right order (crew chief first, and the game rotation). The only playoff games where I had a hard time finding them were for the 1981 Division Series (the split season playoff games); the TSN guides didn't list them, but Retrosheet has them in their box scores, so I'll have those once we get to those 1981 games. I admit the basic beginnings of each page are pretty standard, but the longer they get, the more distinct and individual they become. MisfitToys 20:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

I see someone reverted comments (yours, I think) about the possible reasons for the low ratings in 2005. The answer is quite simple: No Yankees. The fans did not know ahead of time that it would be a sweep, nor that Game 3 would run so long, but there are many Yankees fans across the land, and about as many of them aren't interested in the Series if their Yanks aren't in it. This was the reason the Series of 1997 was also low-rated. I don't know if I can prove it directly, but I think it was being commented on at the time in 1997, and I think a little research would confirm that as fact. Wahkeenah 04:48, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

The fans don't know ahead of time that it will be a sweep, true; but the ratings tend to rise game-by-game as the series progresses, especially if the games go back-and-forth between the teams, so a sweep tends to have lower ratings. A lot of casual watchers don't tune in until a few games in, and sometimes don't bother watching at all unless there's a real struggle between the teams. And true, also, that viewers didn't know how long Game 3 would run - but as the game goes late into the night, many people turn the game off and go to bed (even Yankee fans), and that does affect ratings. (I would also point out that while a lot of people don't watch the Series unless their favorite team is in it, there are also a lot of people who won't watch if the same teams keep getting there. Not suggesting that the two groups are equal, but it goes both ways.) I also suspect the ratings might have been higher had Thomas and Bagwell been healthy and having solid years; ratings also tend to go up when there are big stars involved (did either team have a strong MVP candidate?). MisfitToys 19:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

It looks like what's really needed is an in-depth analysis of the ratings to see where the demographics are, and also how the ratings change from game to game. I wonder if such data for, say, the last 10 years, is available somewhere? That would be a lot better than all this point-of-view guessing that we are doing. Wahkeenah 21:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

In 1997, for example, the conventional wisdom was that few outside of Cleveland and Miami cared about the Series. I think some research would uncover multiple factors, with both of our conjectures figuring into it. Wahkeenah 21:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fixing Page Moves

Just like to say well done for fixing those page moves recently. Good work! --FireFox ™ 19:02, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, though it was a nuisance. Glad to spot it quickly. MisfitToys 02:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Buffalo Skull of Diligence

Thanks for your work reverting the vandals on Mandan while it was on the mainpage yesterday! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 20:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 in baseball

Please check the current edit. Thanks – MusiCitizen 18:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, we're moving in the right direction (it's down to 80K), but I still think more can be done. Ideally, details wouldn't be dropped unless they're shifted to a different article. MisfitToys 00:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for wikifying me

thanks for fixing my page on Edward Malloy and wikifying me, how do you add a picture of him to that page? 22:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I've never really done photos, so I'm the wrong person to ask. MisfitToys 22:23, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Baseball HOF Balloting, 2006

I'd love to help out and do some of those bios. I'll try to get started as soon as possible. Any other way of knowing which ones are the top priority based on their likelihood of making it? TrafficBenBoy 03:48, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Not really, as nearly as I can tell. I've run across some discussion of Buck O'Neil, more for his overall accomplishments than simply as a player, and Minnie Minoso might have a shot (though I'd rather see him elected as a major leaguer) - and it doesn't hurt that they're almost the only ones still living. But they both have articles already; apart from the ones that are just stubs now and need fleshing out (Pete Hill and Cristobal Torriente, for starters), I'd probably suggest Mule Suttles, Ray Brown, Sol White, Frank Grant, Dick Redding, and Louis Santop to begin. MisfitToys 06:49, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Year-related categories

I notice you created Category:Elections by year and Category:Years in baseball, both containing articles whose titles begin with a year. If you have time, could you please go through and make sure the articles are sorted in their respective year (or year-in) parent categories using sortkeys as outlined at Wikipedia:Categorization#Year categories? (Don't forget to start the sortkey with a capital letter.) If you've done this already, thanks and sorry for bugging you about this. I plan to go through a ton of such pages early next year; it would be nice if some of the work were already done... - dcljr (talk) 01:27, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, I suspect I created the elections category based on a pre-existing ghost (red-linked) category; I really haven't had much to do (if anything) with those articles, and likely just added the missing category. As for the baseball articles, the sidebar template for those pages (Template:Year in baseball) automatically does the sorting for the categories. MisfitToys 23:40, 26 December 2005 (UTC)