Talk:Mister Saint Laurent

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I know that autobiography is discouraged, but there is absolutely no question that I am a notable figure. I am one of the most famous pro wrestling commentators in the United States. I have done commentary on many DVDs for Ring of Honor, the third largest promotion in the US. I've also done commentary for the IWA, Puerto Rico's largest wrestling promotion as well as commentary for the soon to be released US edition of the legendary IWA Japan King of the Death Match Tournament. The reason I added a wiki for myself was because so many other articles were linking to my name. My manager is TNA's So Cal Val and my tag team partner is wrestling legend Larry Zbyszko. Whoever wants to delete my page, please let the community know what needs to be fixed. I also expect this page to soon be flooded as I pulled off one of the biggest internet stunts in rock n' roll history last night when I leaked the infamous Guns N' Roses Chinese Democracy. Mistersaintlaurent 23:07, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, he's notable. I don't know much about wrestling but he's clearly notable in that field; and he's also notable for leaking Guns N' Roses songs. Bucketheader 23:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Agree, far too notable for a speedy. I am removing the tags. J Milburn 11:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


A member of the mygnr.com web forum. claims to have single handedly aquired and leaked the new GNR songs, chinese democracy, the blues, and IRS.

Hey Milburn, who re-added the deletion tag? I'm clearly notable. Am I being harrassed because of the guns n roses thing? Mistersaintlaurent 22:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I did - you are not a notable person. You are a non-entity in the wrestling world. If you hadn't started your own page, nobody would have started one for you, because nobody knows or cares about you within wrestling. Half the accomplishments you listed are false. Also, since when is the guy who leaked unreleased albums on the internet notable? The only reason you have a Wiki page is for self-promotion (as he himself has admitted) and Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, not promotional material for a 7th rate independent wrestling manager. Once again I will mark for deletion.Cox813 15:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

User Cox813 has a personal vendetta and is acting in bad faith. Another user removed the deletion tag for a reason. Please do not bring your games over to wikipedia. I have done wrestling announcing for Ring of Honor, IWA Puerto Rico, Full Impact Pro, IWA Japan, and World-1 DVDs, among others. I appear on tapes that air all over the world. The accomplishments listed are all sourced. Mistersaintlaurent 05:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Personal vendetta? What, did you kill my wife and kids in a drug deal gone bad? I don't care one iota about you, but the fact remains that the only reason you have a Wikipedia page is because you created it yourself. Wikipedia is not a personal promotional vehicle, there are other avenues on the internet for you to pursue that line. This page is not encyclopedic, it is a personal promotional device, and thus should be deleted. Cox813 13:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Believe it or not i actually know who this person is and knew of for a while before ever finding this article. he is a notable person in my opinion. I've known of him since back in the days of 'fail life'. Illiardnox 09:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Strong Delete Author wrote article himself - is not encyclopedic and is only used as a promotional vehicle for himself. Tone is completely autobiographal. Should be deleted. Cox813 16:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Already been through this before with Cox813. As I mentioned in the past, he has a personal vendetta against me. Since his last attempt to delete this page, it's been even more thoroughly sourced by even more independent users. There is less of a case than ever to mark this page for deletion. Mistersaintlaurent 19:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Delete this page. This guy is a nobody and is not notable at all. No-one gives a crap about you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.170.179.233 (talk) 06:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not going to argue that this guy is Hulk Hogan or anything, but he is certainly a notable and well-known performer on the independent wrestling circuit. I'm no "Wiki-lawyer", but my understanding is that "autobiographical" is only grounds for deletion when the subject is PURELY non-notable and unknown to the public beyond the Wiki article in question. That is not the case here... and while I don't really have any stakes in this spat, it seems clear from the discussion above that this is drifting close to a flamewar. I have made some edits to this article, and will be happy to proceed with further edits if this has not satisfied admins' view of this article as non-autobiographical. Either way, I propose that everybody take a step back for a moment and keep a cool head. SteveAtlanta (talk) 02:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


This person is not notable at all. Delete this page.