Talk:Miss World

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I'm confused. The anniversaries page for November 22 says over 100 people died in an attack aimed at Miss World contestants, but the Miss World page says, in a general tone, that over 200 people died. Were there separate incidents that added up? I need some answers. (Note: I only found this page because it's on my birthday) Maui Psyko

Technically, both could be true. For example, if 201 people died, that is over 200 people, but it is also over 100 people.  :) --Cromwellt | Talk 17:01, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Cite it or drop it

Several entries in the article for Miss World are deficiently stated needing citations. If you can't produce a reference - with numerous existing web pages searchable on the Internet, then it has no business being in what is ostensibly an encyclopedia. Cite it or drop it. Period.

Ped Admi

[edit] Miss Earth as one of the Rivals of Miss World

Mr. Angelo De La Paz, you cannot undo the following statements in the article about Miss World: "Its rivals, the Miss Universe and Miss Earth pageants maintain equal popularity in some parts of the world, notably the Americas and Asia, and also by virtue of the fact that most countries in the world send the winners of their major national competitions to Miss Universe and Miss Earth pageants."

The word "rival" means a competitor, one who attempts to equal or surpass the other; it does not denote the state of being superior.

With your statement: "Only Filipino fanatics recognize Miss earth is equal with Miss World and Universe but mostly beauty experts are still not!", Your statement is based on your opinion, however, the statements that you're trying to undo has cited plenty of different references, as cited below.

Take note that Miss Earth's worldwide television broadcast in Star World gained the highest rating ever on any beauty event getting a phenomenal popularity rate. Elsewhere in the world, the pageant’s popularity has continuously increased. With more women wanting to become Miss Earth, the number of national Miss Earth pageant has grown on every continent as well. At present, Miss Earth holds the record of having the greatest number of national-level contests, and continuously growing.

Sources:

http://pressexposure.com/Miss_Earth:_The_Ultimate_Beauty_Pageant-4436.html http://www.grandslampageants.com/event_07earth.php http://mabuhayreviews.com/miss-earth-2007-press-presentation.html http://www.emiss.glt.pl/ http://www.grandslambeauties.org/me07/me2007.htm http://www.globalbeauties.com/earth/2007/e07.htm http://www.globmiss.net/earth.html http://missosology.org/ http://herfactor.com/component/option,com_news_portal/task,section/id,4/Itemid,276/ http://www.opmb.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.192.239.149 (talk) 02:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


  • I agree with you that is Miss Earth is one of Grand Slam pageants (others are World, Universe, International and Tourism Queen International) and Miss Earth is growing but only Miss World and Miss Universe are two most important, long-history International pageants and only these two pageants have been live broadcasting around the World with over 1 billion viewers per each.How about Miss Earth...live broadcast in the Philippines only and delayed broadcast after 1 months and only in some parts of Asia!And remember Star World is a cable channel and it is still not popular in some parts of Asia!

Miss Earth must do many things to gain more experiences, popularity, cash prizes, etc...because quality of Miss Earth pageant is still same level with Miss International and Miss Tourism Queen Int'l only.

From Global Beauties:

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"...g) A weight is given to each of the 'big 5' women's pageant and 'big 3' men's pageants before points are added to determine the Grand Slam Ranking. Based on tradition, years of existence, television telecast and audience, production quality, press interest and number of participant countries, it was agreed that Miss World results would be multiplied by 2.0, Miss Universe results would be multiplied by 2.0, Miss International results would be multiplied by 1.0, Miss Tourism Queen International would be multiplied by 1.0 and Miss Earth results would be multiplied by 1.0;..."

And you could believe me that is Miss Earth winners will be the least as "Miss of Misses" of the year because many beauty experts have been feeling angry with Jessica Trisko and disappointed with Miss earth org.

Have fun!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 03:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miss World Winners List

It seems that someone has confused the winner of Mrs. World 2005 as Miss World 2005. Miss World will not be crowned until 10th December 2005 in Sanya. Sima Bakhar of Israel was crowned as Mrs. World in January in India. ---- Wexine

OK I had the information from another Wikipedia and my websearch for Sima Bakhar seemed to confirm the information. In this case, please unfreeze and undo. Sorry for the confusion. gidonb 09:42, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 Pageant Info

it appears that this article has been bombarded with so much information about the 2005 edition. this is not a bad thing since it might have just been due to the hype by pageant enthusiasts before the event took place. a suggestion is to place this in a separate article (i.e. titled "2005 Miss World") and just hyperlink it here through the text "2005", similar to the olympic games articles in wikipedia. in that way, it can also be a "tradition" in pageant articles here to write about the yearly editions, but not to the point of choking the main article with a specific edition's data and information.

That is an excellent idea. It should also receive a better observable link though, e.g. the full name of the article at the bottom (see also). When there are more of these links, a standard referencing system can be made. gidonb 12:23, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 Pageant Info Update

I moved the 55th Miss World Pageant information to a new article, click on the "2005" link in the winners' table.

[edit] Miss World 1993 Merge

Article Miss World 1993 should be merged into this article. 68.123.102.87 14:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I just linked the page to the "1993" text in the table of titleholders. Anyway, I thought I read this same article before from some webpage, in verbatim. So I think this is plagiarism... any reactions?Joey80 09:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

can we unmerged the 1993 page so we start an article about Miss World 1993?Wexine

[edit] Bob Hope's fate?

What happened to Bob Hope? The article states that he was "temporarily scared by a flour bomb"... Should this be scarred? Or was he really just temporarily scared?

[edit] Miss World year-by-year information

Hi, my name is Lex, I just started a Miss World year-by-year data. Please feel free to contribute and lets make a comprehensive data about the most prestigious and longest running global pageant.

Thanks


[edit] Remove re-direct for Miss World 2003

I'm quite new to this, can anyone remove the redirect for Miss World 2003 so a new article can be created. Thanks Wexine

[edit] Miss World Crown

Does anyone have any information regarding the composition of the Miss World crown? I think it will be best if we devote a section about the crown.

[edit] 2 billion viewers?

The reference for this statement is a redirect to the official miss world web site. I'm skeptical. Unless a more reliable source is available, I think that statement should be cut. I find it pretty difficult to believe that 30% of the planet's population tunes in to watch the miss world contest. Northern Bear 16:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, I googled it. There appear to be multiple sources that put viewership at over 2 billion. I'm shocked and amazed. But I'd still like to see a more reliable source quoted than simply the shows publicity material. Northern Bear 16:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
There's a weird tradition of heavily inflating the viewer figure for these kinds of events. It's event more common in sports. Google "billion viewers myth" and you'll find plenty of sources. 62.203.97.92 22:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
When I tried searching the net to find for a reliable source to the claim of 2 billion viewership of Miss World, numerous articless would come-out, the problem is, these articles do not appear to be truly reliable sources, but merely just reiterating the claim in this Wikipedia article, rather than detailing the specific statistics of viewers distribution to establish validity upon which the claim is made. These sources are simply regurgitating this very article's claims. The 2 billion viewerships is a hazy declaration to uphold; in order for the source to be reliable, it should be from a trusted source that clearly elucidates the basis. Simply citing an article that states it has 2 billion viewerships, without specific details is unacceptable.--Ped Admi (talk) 03:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
A reliable source should be able to establish the basis of the claim such as this [2]. A claim that shows the final figure without going into details is not a valid source for this 2 billion viewers. In addition, the claim of having the "world's largest live annual television event" is highly controversial since the Olympic games have 3 billion worldwide viewers[3]. --Jet Perry (talk) 03:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Advertisement

The alert on the article says: "This article is written like an advertisment". But I don't understand why this article looks like an advertisment? Perfectmiss (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Whenever you see an article littered with all those citation needed tags and alerts, it means someone has a stick in their ass about the article. that's all. Zhokuai (talk) 21:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I checked the article and found out several peacock wordings such as “most widely attended and broadcasted”, “world's largest event”, “World’s biggest”, and etc. These peacock terms are advertisement in nature especially when there is no valid reliable citation to support the statement.--Ped Admi (talk) 02:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)