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[edit] Ms. Dynamite is not webcomic, she is some stupid singer

I am very disappointed in "dolty" Wikipedians who has no common sense to make a bad decision to redirect to Ms. Dynamite when Miss Dynamite was mentioned in other articles as a webcomic. If Wikipedian won't remove redirect then he will be stupid enough to be not smart. Redirect command must be removed. Ms. Dynamite is not part of webcomic, she is singer. what dolt! Wikipedians may be computer geeks but none of them have common sense that make them dumb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cculber007 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proof of notoriety

The creator was a guest at the 2007 edition of Otakuthon[1]. 70.53.149.98 06:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Also a guest at the Montreal Comic Con [2]

Intelinside2007 21:14, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restoring Miss Dynamite

Miss Dynamite is first on Google before Ms. Dynamite. It's plenty notable. Oldest series on Newgrounds and has received the following awards there:
1. Miss Dynamite XXII iraq, Weekly Users' Choice, 3/14/07
2. Miss Dynamite XXII iraq, Daily Feature, 3/13/07
3. Miss Dynamite XXI, Weekly 4th Place, 11/8/06
4. Miss Dynamite XXI, Daily Feature, 11/7/06
5. Miss Dynamite XX, Daily 2nd Place, 8/19/06
6. Miss Dynamite XIX, Daily 3rd Place, 3/8/06
7. Miss Dynamite XVIII, Daily Feature, 8/24/05
8. Miss Dynamite XVII, Daily 2nd Place, 4/2/05
9. Miss Dynamite vs Terri Schiavo, Daily 3rd Place, 3/26/05
10. Miss Dynamite XV, Daily Feature, 8/21/03
11. Miss Dynamite XV, Weekly Users' Choice, 8/20/03
12. Miss Dynamite KISS doll, Daily Feature, 3/14/02
13. Miss Dynamite xmas card01, Daily 3rd Place, 12/25/01
14. Miss Dynamite VII, Daily 2nd Place, 11/16/01
15. Miss Dynamite XIV, Weekly Users' Choice, 10/31/01
16. Miss Dynamite XIV, Daily Feature, 10/25/01
17. Miss Dynamite XIII, Daily Feature, 4/14/01
18. Miss Dynamite XII, Daily Feature, 1/22/01
19. Miss Dynamite XI, Daily Feature, 11/14/00
20. Miss Dynamite VI Swimsuit, Daily Feature, 10/12/00
21. Miss Dynamite X, Daily Feature, 10/1/00
22. Miss Dynamite IX, Daily Feature, 8/12/00

Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 13 May 2007. The result of the discussion was redirect to Ms. Dynamite.

[edit] Restoring Miss Dynamite

I just saw the AfD. I feel very strongly that the article should exist - strongly enough that I am going to attempt to restore it from a cached version. I appreciate the fairness of the AfD and apologize for missing it. --AStanhope 16:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the article again and replied on your talk page. Either you respect the result of the AfD, or you dispute it at WP:DRV. Fram 19:04, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Douchechill! --AStanhope 19:13, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restoration of Miss Dynamite

Indeed, Miss Dynamite is worthy of inclusion on Wikipedia. It is in fact notable. Without going into too much discussion or diatribe right now (it is late, where I am located), all of the criteria that make the article styled "Penny Arcade (webcomic)" as a notable article worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia could strongly be said to similarly apply to an article about the Miss Dynamite webcomic. Additionally, The comic has a fanbase spanning the globe, it's principal artist is extensively published and is well-known among North American manga artists.

At any rate...

What I would like to hear discussed are comments stating why "Penny Arcade (webcomic)" is notable article worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, and how those criteria may or may not apply to Miss Dynamite. If nothing else, it will benifit all of us in that we will each come away with a firmer understanding of the notability guidelines.


AlphaFactor


So long, and thanks for all the fish! 05:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Heavyoak, the internet god.

I said keep the page. I mean it. --heavyoak 22:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alexa ratings...

I'd like to point out that MissDynamite.com has a significantly higher Alexa rating than MsDynamite.co.uk.

If Ms Dynamite is "notable" enough for inclusion then Miss Dynamite certainly is. 155.198.116.79 15:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

You are comparing a webcomic with a singer. I'd like to point out that Ms Dynamite has sold significantly more CDs than Miss Dynamite... Your reasoning is equally invalid. Fram 19:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I didn’t explain properly so let me clarify: your right that comparing a webcomic and a singer by web hits is unfair as a webcomic’s success is measured in hits (and would naturally have more of hits than an equally famous singer’s website due to fans checking in regularly) while a singer’s is measured in sales or airtime, etc.

However you’ve obviously haven’t visited the "webcomic".

Calling missdynamite.com a webcomic is misleading and anachronistic. It implies that it features regularly updated strips which are read on a regular basis by the fans which thus boosts the rating. It hasn’t featured strips for almost a year and Miss D is mostly about the anime (flash animations) and paper mangas, not the strip.

Both websites are much the same: they feature information about the artist and they're work but do not host the work.

I acknowledge that listening to Ms D will not raise her website’s Alexa rating but neither will viewing Miss D animations or mangas raise Miss D’s.

Both websites require fans to go beyond simply viewing/listening to the respective artist’s work. They must actively seek out the website (easy enough in both cases).

More people have done so for Miss D then Ms D.
155.198.134.19 15:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


Odds are Miss Dynamite has sold more comic books than Ms. Dynamite.

A bit tenuous I know, does anyone have the notability guidlines for webcomics?

155.198.134.19 16:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

keep the page.--heavyoak 22:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restoration of Miss Dynamite

Why not do with this page the same thing you did with other with similar name. Add a notice in the title. Miss Dynamite (the flash animation)or(the cartoon), Little Miss Dynamite (the music album) or Ms Dynamite (the hiphop singer)... I think it's better than just assuming that everybody searching for miss dynamite want to read one or the other. And PLEASE, if this page remains deleted, stop redirecting Eva Sirkowski's page to Miss Dynamite and restore the page. If I'm searching for it in the wiki, I'm DEFINITELY not interested to read about Ms Dynamite's debut album... Thanx:) Technogotika 02:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Eva Sirkowski's page no longer redirects to Miss Dynamite but is deleted. The page had indeed nothing to do with Ms Dynamite, so the redirect had become pointless. Fram 08:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you:)Now about the other problem. Don't you think it would be logical to to have both Ms and Miss Dynamite pages with the addition that I've suggested? It's not like you dont have the space for one more page... and in all fairness, even in the dictionary, when two words have different meanings, they don't just write the first and forget about the rest... Technogotika 17:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
The problem is not that we can't have both pages next to one another, it is that most editors seem to think that Miss Dynalite isn't notable enough for inclusion in an encyclopedia (even one as big as Wikipedia). It fails the WP:NOTE guideline, and that usually means that the article is not fit for inclusion here. Fram 14:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Keep it, if only as "(for the comic and anime, click here)" -Anders

[edit] Google Hits

Can someone explain to me how 128 hits for the Miss Dynamite comic itself isn't a "splash" or qualify the topic as "relevant"? At 10 hits page, that's almost 13 full pages of results- more than a notable amount for consideration on a reference site. Maybe I don't understand "relevance", but I do know that something that scores 13 pages before you move on to the creator's internet blogs and fan worship definitely counts as a "splash". This is before you include how popular the series is on Newgrounds, as well as how popular it was when it was hosted on Deviant Art. -08 June, 2007