Talk:Mirror's Edge
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[edit] Parkour
Added some parkour references. Citations not appearing at bottom of article. Sheeeeeeep (talk) 16:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- You might find WP:CIT handy in the future. It explains how to format references in articles. It's a little confusing at first, but after I had gone through my first article, fixing refs and filling in missing info and standardising format, it became second nature, so do not be alarmed. clicketyclickyaketyyak 22:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Gametrailers link
Regardless of whether the page contains "substantial information" as defined by WP:VG/EL or not, it contains nothing that the official site doesn't already offer, as the official site has the same video, and has had it up for three days now. Hence, I think it's fair to remove the link. Dreaded Walrus t c 09:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Not in HD, and not in a downloadable format. --MrStalker (talk) 10:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Substantial as in the size of it, hence MobyGames and IMDb, which are extensive databases of information. Note under "Inappropriate external links" in lists: "The video game's page at 1up, GameSpot, IGN, GameSpy and other commercial video game news and reviews sites - Such links can be seen as promotion of the associated commercial sites." This fits GameTrailers. On a side-note, that sure doesn't look HD to me.clicketyclickyaketyyak 10:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Click on "HD" under the video. --MrStalker (talk) 12:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- I've seen GameTrailer links on so many other articles I assumed it's OK, but I recognize it isn't. Fair enough then. --MrStalker (talk) 20:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- No issues. I'm not majorly against the link being included, I just don't personally see it adding much to the article. If we were to start seeing trailers as significant external links, articles like Heavenly Sword would be twice as long due to the sheer number of trailers that are often released [1]. Dreaded Walrus t c 20:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Personally I view the trailer to this game as being an interesting external link to the article as it brings information about Mirror's Edge that simply cannot be transcribed. However so as the avoid the whole marketing aspect, how about using a Youtube link which is not uncommon on wikipedia articles? I've found the following to have the best video quality:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JReRu8UDh4
- Secondly, I would also like to propose an external link to a producer interview, also hosted on youtube, which gives an insight on the goals which the developers are trying to reach and the angle current in development. Feel free to take a look at it first here:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibUZP86HX-4&feature=related
- If no one has any objections I will add these two links in a couple of days, however I'm for putting this up for debate :) (On a side note: Man I can't wait for this game ^^) GBobly (talk) 18:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Alternatively we have this link for the trailer which has been posted by EA on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N1TJP1cxmo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.173.6.67 (talk) 19:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- No issues. I'm not majorly against the link being included, I just don't personally see it adding much to the article. If we were to start seeing trailers as significant external links, articles like Heavenly Sword would be twice as long due to the sheer number of trailers that are often released [1]. Dreaded Walrus t c 20:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Substantial as in the size of it, hence MobyGames and IMDb, which are extensive databases of information. Note under "Inappropriate external links" in lists: "The video game's page at 1up, GameSpot, IGN, GameSpy and other commercial video game news and reviews sites - Such links can be seen as promotion of the associated commercial sites." This fits GameTrailers. On a side-note, that sure doesn't look HD to me.clicketyclickyaketyyak 10:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Youtube is still a commercial site. And while trailers are important to a game and potential buyers, they do not belong on an encyclopedia. A trailer is essentially a product commercial. Should we include youtube links of commercials for Macintosh on its page? Not only would things get crowded, as Dreaded Walrus said (and I'm sure we're going to see plenty of trailers for Mirror's Edge before its out), but it also teeters dangerously on the edge of trivial information lists. The guidelines state: "Please use appropriate external link templates ... Only add templates when they provide additional, or corroborative, encyclopedic information to the article." Youtube apparently so fails this criteria that no-one has bothered to make an external link template for it. And does Youtube meet reliable source criteria? As for the interview, if the information revealed in it can be integrated into the article, then go ahead and insert the info in the article and use video (at GT) as a reference. clicketyclickyaketyyak 18:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with Clicketyclick on pretty much all of his arguments, though I would like to point out that there is a Template:YouTube. The reason it is so rarely used is because there is very rarely a valid reason to link to YouTube (most times it is linked is often spam, or copyvios, or something else that goes against our external links policy). Dreaded Walrus t c 19:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hah, it's not even listed on the page that lists all the templates so I missed it. It is interesting to note that the person who started the page for a Youtube external link is a suspected sockpuppet of a banned user. Make of that what you will. clicketyclickyaketyyak 19:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Simulation sickness
Owen O'Brien, senior producer, said:
Simulation sickness is when you get a difference between what you see and what you expect to see. So there are little things. Like the little bit of HUD [heads-up-display] that we have is a small reticule that gives you a focal point. If you take that out of the game, you do start to get ill. A bit like a ballerina doing pirouettes — if they focus on something, then they’re fine. Also, the camera in our game does quite a lot of clever things. It’s simulating your eyes rather than your head. I think what a lot of people have done in the past is they’ve stuck a camera in the person’s head and they move around like robots….The field of view is very important. A lot of first-person games have a very claustrophobic point of view, usually to create tension or scares. We’ve got a very wide field of view which gives you much more peripheral view of the city. And you get much less disoriented.
I see a lot of people worrying that they'll get sick playing the game after watching the video of gameplay, but they took out the reticule from the video, so most people probably don't know that there's a solution built in for simulation sickness, and it's worth mentioning that this game has something more akin to peripheral vision than other first-person games. This is a very important piece of information, but I just don't know how to work it into the article. clicketyclickyaketyyak 22:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
- I added it but I'm still not sure about its placement. clicketyclickyaketyyak 22:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
What song is on the gameplay trailer?