Talk:Mirage (The Incredibles)

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Does this minor character really need to have a nine section bio? Matt Deres

I agree with the above...

Doubly agreed. Merge, someone. [maestro] 14:43, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

DavidJohns 09:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Disagree. If anything her section and that of the others in the Incredible's page should be cut down there since they contribute to an overlong article.

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[edit] Accomplice to murder?

Did Mirage know about the murders? Its not all that clear. She seemed very conscerned that Mr. Incredible be careful when taking on the Omnibot. "And don't DIE!" she said with emphasis. Some could argue that she thought heroes would rather die in battle than linger another moment in their dull suburban lives?

Yeah, or she was a very good actress so to fool Mr. I into a trap.
But noticed the look of surprise and sadness when Helen states "there's children aboard", on the plane she launched a missle at. She does seem to care about life, or lives of children at least.

[edit] Merging

I don't think this article should be merged. Although a minor character, there's enough information and even references and notes. So what do you, Wikipedians, think? --anon

[edit] Speculation

There have been some speculation in the article and I'm going to explain why I removed it:

  • Someone made a comment about Syndrome about to kiss Mirage, but he may not have been trying to do so. It's speculation.
  • Someone made a comment that Mirage probably went to jail, but this is speculation. No one knows what happened to her and it didn't imply it either.

So this is why I removed the speculating sentences. --71.105.11.148 21:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


That is still there. I've also noticed some speculation, such as this line "She finds his love for his family remarkable, although she has nothing that quite compares, nor does she wish to." Unless that was taken from sort official bio or something, it sounds like nothing more than someone believing they know the character to a further extent than may be possible.

[edit] Could she be a super

Because in her message she said "We have something in common. According to the government, neither of us exists"

It's possible, but it could mean she's working with a secret company and her identity has to be kept a secret. Also, even though this is a possibility, we can't put this in the article because it's speculation. And possibly original research. And the movie never strongly suggests it, so I removed the speculation and changed things around. You don't mind, right? --71.118.76.132 18:13, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

DavidJohns 09:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)The statement only really says that her existence is a secret, and that's as applicable to a spy as it is to a super. And since the whole message is a lie, there's no reason to take her at her word on that score, although her amazing information gathering skills (including spying on someone as alert as Bob Parr without him suspecting anything) do suggest that she may have had a covert operations background before being recruited by Syndrome

I think you might be right but I am not sure

Regardless, she should at least go under powers as 'None known' since it is neither confirmed nor denied. 68.225.240.87 10:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incarcerated status

Someone keeps saying that she was "presumely incarcerated", but this is unknown. The movie never states it or implies it. Besides, since her identity is kept secret by the government she might not have. But even that is unknown. So it's speculation and original research to keep saying she's presumely incarcerated. --71.118.76.132 18:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)